Chassis is supposed to be diff from the 2026 Bosch Gen5 - I think this reviewer was comparing it to the Rallon? Right? So he says it's very similar to the Rallon now. Orbea themselves say it is more compliant and less stiff.
AI says:
And also AI claims that it has a more forgiving ride feel. "Kinematic Compliance: The perception of a less punishing ride comes entirely from the updated suspension. Increasing the leverage rate progression to 40% yields massive small-bump sensitivity and tracking. This allows the chassis to feel calmer and more glued to the ground, avoiding the deflective "tank" feel of past generations"
- Lower Bottom Bracket & Anti-Squat: The smaller footprint of the Avinox drive unit allowed Orbea to relocate the main pivot. This significantly drops the anti-squat curve (down to about 90% at sag), keeping the bike much more settled through heavy compressions and rough terrain. [1, 2]
- Slacker Head Tube Angle: The head tube sits at a more gravity-focused 63.9 degrees in the High setting (and 63.3 degrees in the Low setting), compared to the 64-degree angle of previous Bosch-equipped Wild models. [1, 2]
- "Steep 'n Deep" Frame Design: The frame uses a more compact, low-slung silhouette—heavily influenced by the Orbea Rallon—which lowers the center of gravity and allows riders to run much longer-travel dropper posts. [1, 2, 3]
- Frame Travel: The long-travel (LT) models feature 170 mm of rear travel paired with a 170 mm or 180 mm fork
You have to be careful with AI though.
The comparison was to the reviewers 2025 Bosch Wild, he just stated that it was very similar to the Rallon.
A few notes though:
1) thankfully I don't ever hit my 20mph speed limiter when trail riding, so the 'wall' he mentions doesn't effect me. That said, I believe his review and it would be nice if the Bosch matched this feature. I've felt it on the road and it's, well like a wall like he said.
2) He mentioned lurching on the overrun on the Bosch. I never felt lurching but I have no reason to doubt his experience. Thankfully recently Bosch gave us the ability to turn that lame overrun off just last Monday and the bike is so much better like this. So no lurching and no overrun and it now feels like a bike.
3) I would not be able to stand a lower BB, due to extreme rocks. But I've never been a huge fan of super low BBs so I'm weird like this.
4) my head tube angle was measured and it's 63.6'. It's pretty common for manufacturers to be off on this stuff and even tires can change things. That said I run a tallish rear tire that should steepen things up and I'm still at 63.6'.
5) I'm 5'10" and run a 200mm AXS dropper or I could run a 210 OneUp. Sorry, but this isn't getting better. In fact with a 210 OneUp my rear tire hits my seat. That's just AI garbage.
6) The new Wild is going to feel more compliant with around 90% AS at sag versus 115% of the old one but also will sag under acceleration. 100% neutralizes AS but because bikes bounce over bumps and stuff you generally want a bit more to account for being a bit deeper in the travel. Generally you want around 100% AS up until about 40% sag for ideal rear suspension pedaling performance for an aggressive bike. The new one should feel smoother with less pedal feedback. That said, my Wild with a coil is super plush AND pedals quite well with the motor turned off so for my needs I'm happy with what I've got. I think the new one was optimized around the Neo shock, and unless you have the Neo shock, you are leaving performance on the table with this set up. I mean, pedaling even matters on DH bikes.
The bike is amazing for sure, but I don't think it's a leap. I do think it's a bit more designed around descending and DH performance where the old one was more of an All Mountain bike.