2021 Rise M Ltd with dead battery replacement ? repair ? sources ?

[4mal]

After back surgery unable to ride. Thinking about my EMTB wasn't in my firefront... and so not being dilligent, I let the batery go flat. Now tht I can ride, it won't take a charge. My LBS has a Shimano computer rig to analyze and they aren't able to get a peep out of it. This is a Gen 0 battery. Out of stock with orbea and when they finlly come in. Only a dealer can order and I get to pay DHL from Spain

Hey Orbea - Ya know there is also market on this side of the pond. Maybe you should consider stocking parts over here too ?

So... anyone know where I can source new gen 0 battery or preferrable where I can get thiis one reconditioned.. Kinda shocking to me that there isn't a way to wake this thing up. First time I have encountered a LiOn battery with a form of BMS that can't be woken up.

The not so funny thing... My BMC Alpenchallenge AMP with Shimano was parked along side the Rise. Not only did it take a charge, it still had 3
LED segments showimg after sitting during my rehab.

Well enough bitching, time to get this Rise rehabbed so I can get out on the trail.

Any source recommendations would be more than welcome. Thanks!

 

[Funkyoid]

I’d love to know too. Same situation.

 

[ep8-rs]

In case you have not seen these:

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Thread 'Orbea Rise Power and Batteries'

Nov 14, 2022

I tried to gather information about Rise power abilities.

What have I figured out…

360 Wh battery that contain 10S2P setup of 2170 cells. 2 stacks of ten cells in series connection joined together in parallel.

Cell manufacturer Samsung SDI or LG perhaps? SDI cell INR21700-50G, 4850mAh (very close to 360Wh. They are rated to continuous output of 9.7A. Nominal voltage 3.7V

Nominal
(10 x 3.7V) X. (2 x 9.7A) = 718 Watt

Lowest point (discharge cut off)
(10 x 2.5V) X. (2 x 9.7A) = 485 Watt

Highest point (charge cut off)
(10 x 4.2V) X. (2 x 9.7A) = 815 Watt

Consider 100 watt losses? To...

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Please post what you end up doing as I have a Gen 0 as well , and would like to know my options if and or when I reach the end of my battey life.

 

[crkunselman]

Any update on this? My battery is either dead or the BMS is locked. Either way, I have to travel a distance to get a dealer to look at it. Btw. This is Shimano’s requirement. They must not think regular people can deal with these issues on their own. Just give us the trick to reset BMS so I know for sure what the issue is before buying a new battery!

 

[4mal]

So far no progress. The only lead to stocking dealer os one in the UK. They can't ship batteries...The person I spoke with at Orbea US was not remotely helpful,. If I were buying another bike, based on the customer experience - it would not be from Orbea. These guys make Specialized look great...

 

[Kara]

Same exact issue with my husband's 2021 Orbea Rise battery. Local bike store was wonderful about diagnosing the battery and calling around to try to source a new one, but no luck. They even looked into having the battery rebuilt, which might be what we end up doing.

 

[crkunselman]

Same exact issue with my husband's 2021 Orbea Rise battery. Local bike store was wonderful about diagnosing the battery and calling around to try to source a new one, but no luck. They even looked into having the battery rebuilt, which might be what we end up doing.

are you in the U.S.? are there any places in the U.S. that rebuild batteries? I haven't found one yet.

 

[4mal]

are you in the U.S.? are there any places in the U.S. that rebuild batteries? I haven't found one yet.

I'm in WA State. So far i can't even fin a battery to purchase, let alone get the dead one rebuilt. Frustrating to have a near to 10 grand hunk of carbon junk...

 

[ep8-rs]

Maybe a custom build?

Custom LiPo Batteries - LiPol Battery Co., Ltd

LiPol has Over 30 years of experience in OEM & ODM Rechargeable Custom LiPo Batteries services and Great Rechargeable Custom LiPo Batteries Support.

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LiPo Battery Guide of the Customization Process

When customizing rechargeable li polymer battery packs, it is necessary to choose a reliable and stable lipo battery manufacturer.

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[4mal]

Maybe a custom build?

Custom LiPo Batteries - LiPol Battery Co., Ltd

LiPol has Over 30 years of experience in OEM & ODM Rechargeable Custom LiPo Batteries services and Great Rechargeable Custom LiPo Batteries Support.

www.lipobatteries.net

LiPo Battery Guide of the Customization Process

When customizing rechargeable li polymer battery packs, it is necessary to choose a reliable and stable lipo battery manufacturer.

cmbatteries.com

Interesting but importing qty 1 from china ? for some reason that sounds crazy...

 

[Kara]

are you in the U.S.? are there any places in the U.S. that rebuild batteries? I haven't found one yet.

Haven't found one that will rebuild the Rise battery yet, but will definitely keep you posted if I find any options for rebuild or replacement.

 

[4mal]

Haven't found one that will rebuild the Rise battery yet, but will definitely keep you posted if I find any options for rebuild or replacement.

There may be progress.
Orbea says that it is an orderabe part.
We have to go through a dealer.
Erik at Bike Tires Direct in Portland is working with Keith, the PNW Orbea rep to see what they can accomplish. As he put, to get me back on my bike as quickly as possible.

Eric can be found at 503-917-0156 or [email protected]

I don't expect this to be cheap but if it resuscitates my $9k brick... worth it.

I'll update this thread again when I hear back.

MB

 

[Kara]

There may be progress.
Orbea says that it is an orderabe part.
We have to go through a dealer.
Erik at Bike Tires Direct in Portland is working with Keith, the PNW Orbea rep to see what they can accomplish. As he put, to get me back on my bike as quickly as possible.

Eric can be found at 503-917-0156 or [email protected]

I don't expect this to be cheap but if it resuscitates my $9k brick... worth it.

I'll update this thread again when I hear back.

MB

Whoa this is awesome news! Thank you so much for sharing info. I really appreciate you keeping the thread updated too. I know it will be expensive, but I'd still thrilled if we could buy a new battery and have the bike running again.

 

[4mal]

Whoa this is awesome news! Thank you so much for sharing info. I really appreciate you keeping the thread updated too. I know it will be expensive, but I'd still thrilled if we could buy a new battery and have the bike running again.

i had some positive news just a bit ago. I would recommend reaching out to Erik as he is the one person so far that has been able to get any forward momentum for me ... Orbea asked for pics of the bike's S/N and battery.

 

[Kara]

i had some positive news just a bit ago. I would recommend reaching out to Erik as he is the one person so far that has been able to get any forward momentum for me ... Orbea asked for pics of the bike's S/N and battery.

Oh that's great! I'll take pictures and reach out to Erik. Thank you so much!