USA deliveries of PX?
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This is a misleading point. Pivot sold through and delivered their first production run of Amp’d bikes. Amflow has yet to deliver any new bikes to US end users.
DirkWisely
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So dealers couldn't even preorder them yet? I put in my reservation like a month ago.
Me too. Yes, they are entering them now for finality. The original orders were fed to them early on to judge volume for delivery waves.
TheKaiser
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I am curious what sort of rides you see yourself doing, where the 700wh battery pack would be advantageous? I understand that the motor will hit higher peak outputs when using the 700, and sustain them beyond 10min without derating, due to the custom cells, but I had the opposite take on the situation.Yeah, PX Pro all the way with the new custom battery cells. PR is not even a consideration for me. Look here to understand.
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No other bikes have this custom battery like the PX (other than Atherton).
To my mind, sure, the higher output could occasionally be fun, but the M2S (and M2, and M1 for that matter) are already so damn powerful that getting a full 1500w just doesn't seem like a very important feature. Similarly, most of my climbs are short enough that derating after 10min wouldn't be a problem, and, more importantly, if I were doing a trip to an alpine area with climbs of 20-40min+, I wouldn't want to use the higher output due to range anxiety. Sure, the 700 battery could sustain a higher output for the whole climb, but you would essentially deplete the whole battery by the time you reach the top. Plus your motor would be boiling hot. If you want to do 2 (or more) climbs like that in a day, you need to drop down to a lower assist mode, in which case the higher output and lack of derating of the 700wh cease to be advantagous.
For those reasons, I was leaning more toward bikes with the 800wh battery, as the power outputs and durations seem more than sufficient for real world use, and I'd have an additional 100wh on board to reduce range anxiety. The weight will be slightly higher, but the wh/kg ratio is actually surprisingly close to the 700wh battery, so the extra weight is, at least in part, related to the extra 100wh, rather than just being reflective of the "older" tech.
About the only time I'd thought I might prefer the 700wh would be if I only had 60-90min to ride, and wanted to just rip the whole ride at 100% pace. That sounds super fun, but I wouldn't want to buy a bike that is optimized just for that, at the expense of longer rides.
DirkWisely
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Personally I think the 700wh is ideal for many of my rides, and hopefully they'll come out with the rumored 200-400wh extender for my longest rides. 800wh is a bit more than I need for most rides, and 800wh+extender is more than I need for any of my rides.
This is interesting regarding Canadian delays being caused by a “breakup” between Amflow and the distributor. Easy to theorize the distributor also handled the US.
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Yo Amflow if you are still listening on the forums...
Your reputation is going down the drain in the US and Canada. Why advertise the crap out of your bike and now nothing? Not even an explanation of what is going on. Just be truthful with us. I understand not putting a date out there if you dont know but tell us what is going on. Keeping us in the dark isn't gonna make us wait for them. We will get another bike.
Also, you advertise the crap out of the extender and nothing.
As for myself, I dont know if Id buy an Amflow now. You have really disappointment me and a lot of other customers.
Now that there are other choices, people are not gonna look at Amflow.
Your reputation is going down the drain in the US and Canada. Why advertise the crap out of your bike and now nothing? Not even an explanation of what is going on. Just be truthful with us. I understand not putting a date out there if you dont know but tell us what is going on. Keeping us in the dark isn't gonna make us wait for them. We will get another bike.
Also, you advertise the crap out of the extender and nothing.
As for myself, I dont know if Id buy an Amflow now. You have really disappointment me and a lot of other customers.
Now that there are other choices, people are not gonna look at Amflow.
No problem getting PX in Norway but PR lots of people reckon is the best buy in the emtb world is maybe available next year though ads is everywhere.
Sorry Amflow I changed my mind and went for R.
I think North American consumers are getting a lesson in a difference between a new brand; and established one. There's no way I feel as confident buying a $10,000 bike from a relatively new Chinese brand as I do an established, legacy brand. Caveat emptor.
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In Poland it`s impossible to buy PX carbon PRO. I spoke with one of the dealers - they ordered 60 PX carbon PRO and recieved... 4. So I ordered my bike in Germany - over a month ago, and I`m still waiting...
Yotaismygame
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If these bikes are coming over via boat nobody knows when they would make it through port. Anytime a container gets into port it might sit there for a week or two months. Just the way it works.
I can tell you the ships are lined up waiting to get into Long Beach CA
I'm not standing behind the accuracy of that Insta post, but the guy said they're not on the water and at least 4 weeks out. If I was really invested I'd reach out to him directly. For all I know there's more info in the comments. I didn't do any digging.
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BS. A sitting container is costing you money by the day, you want it moved out of a port asap.
Yotaismygame
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Yes occurring demiurge suuucks. But it’s up to the port how quickly they process it. At least in the industry I work in that’s how it works when we import. This happens at all the ports in the US for us.
That Long Beach Port on the US West Coast is gnarly though where Asian imports arrive. Certainly, US imports are way down due to various factors including lower demand due to a significantly weakening US economy, however in times past it was common for 100s of cargo ships to waiting out in the Pacific for their chance to dock and unload.
A debate on this would be off topic but it's simply inaccurate to claim US imports are "way down;" or that there's a "significantly weakening US economy."
US imports have not declined recently - They rose month-over-month in early 2026. March 2026 rose $381.2 billion (+2.3%).
To be fair, you could be speaking to (the relevant) "containerized import volumes" that are down ~5.5% YoY in April 2026. Depends on what and how we're looking at the data.
The US economy has different indicators, but recent GDP growth is 1.6-2.0%; and the labor market is undeniably strong and just blew away (doubled!) estimates with +172,000 non-farm payrolls in May. Far from significantly weakining.
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I'm in trucking and demand is significantly down. It's a Bellwether for the entire economy.
Loaded import containers at the Long Beach Port averaged around 450K/ month throughout the previous administration. Currently sitting well below 400K.
DirkWisely
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but wouldn't one expect reduced import volume due to tarrifs?
I'm not in Logistics so I might be misreading the data, but doesn't the Long Beach chart show a dramatic rise since mid-2022 with all-time highs in 24 and 25?
That's just one port though. The aggregate imports are also generally up and to the right since 2022.
Not trying to be political at all, I can't stand any of those bums. I figured the tariffs would have had a negative impact on imports but the data isn't showing that as far as I can tell. Also anecdotally, I see help wanted signs everywhere and my friends that own businesses are saying that finding enough help to cover growth is their single biggest issue.
That's just one port though. The aggregate imports are also generally up and to the right since 2022.
Not trying to be political at all, I can't stand any of those bums. I figured the tariffs would have had a negative impact on imports but the data isn't showing that as far as I can tell. Also anecdotally, I see help wanted signs everywhere and my friends that own businesses are saying that finding enough help to cover growth is their single biggest issue.
I work in the automotive aftermarket industry, and more specifically import and distribution from Europe and Asia. This Amflow situation is so reminiscent of people waiting for their new (fill in the blank) sportscar to arrive...GT3, BRZ, Z06, etc. Everyone freaks out and must immediately have the absolute newest, shiniest thing (because 500 HP wasn't enough, and they need 524 HP). They rush out to buy said new product, pay retail prices and/or additional dealer markups, and don't really consider all the ramifications of a brand new product, platform, or business model. Then they get upset when the manufacturer's delivery promises aren't kept, the product is half-baked (the car's transmission sh*ts the bed for example), a properly sorted support network isn't in place, an adequate inventory of spares isn't on-hand and availble, etc. I've seen this happen over and over...and over during the past decades and I find it all highly amusing.
The reality is that this is a complex product, a complex international distribution structure, customer support structure, parts management issue, there is Direct To Consumer vs. wholesale distribution sales channel conflict, gray market import issues exist, etc. It's a bit of a mess. The list of potential pitfalls with Amflow's current business situation is currently long and broad. That said, they do have some great things going for them. They seem to have a killer, cutting-edge product on their hands, and they have proven that they are listening to consumers and trying to give them what they want (rather than blindly creating the products they think the market actually wants). That said, if Amflow wants to build a truly stout brand, having repeatable processes/solutions in place underlying all these other business issues will become just as important as having a kick-arse motor. I truly hope they don't fumble the ball, because I do think it's good to shake up an industry once in a while. Competitors will catch up though, and I'm sure the good ones are all hard at work with an existential fire under their butts.
Over the last few months I've been talking to dealers of various brands, those who are carrying Amflow, those who were asked to carry Amflow but decided against doing so, etc. IMO, those who chose not to do business with Amflow presented a very solid case against doing so. It sounded to me as if the risk/reward balance for an authorized wholesaler was out of sync with the wholesaler's typical expectations. In other words, Amflow wanted them to shoulder considerably more of a burden vs. the other preexisting MTB manufacturers they were used to dealing with. My hunch is that Amflow really just wants to grab the higher margin DTC sales, and views legacy resellers as a necessary evil for the time being (but one they must deal with as those resellers are so entrenched in the industry). It reminds me of the Tesla sales model in that regard.
Given the above, I therefore decided to wait a bit before buying an Amflow bike, despite all its really cool features and capabilities. I instead just bought a new-old-stock Specialized Levo 4 (which is now apparently loathed around here
) for about 50% off the original MSRP. I plan to enjoy it for a year or two and let everyone else be guinea pigs for Amflow to get their products and processes sorted. Is the Levo 4 as good of a bike as the PX Carbon? Possibly not. But, I think it will be a big step up over my old bike and will keep me smiling for the next couple years, which is my primary objective. I can live with not having the absolute ______ (fastest, most powerful, lightest weight, etc.).
That said, I do really hope Amflow/DJI gets their mountain bike business model as sorted as their motors seem to be. They are impressively innovative, and are definitely moving the sport of EMTBing forward. As amusing as I find masochistic people chasing the shiny new thing, I do hate seeing people misled. Hopefully these guys don't alienate too many potential future loyalists along the way. To quote the infamous linguist George W. Bush, "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
Good luck Amflow!
The reality is that this is a complex product, a complex international distribution structure, customer support structure, parts management issue, there is Direct To Consumer vs. wholesale distribution sales channel conflict, gray market import issues exist, etc. It's a bit of a mess. The list of potential pitfalls with Amflow's current business situation is currently long and broad. That said, they do have some great things going for them. They seem to have a killer, cutting-edge product on their hands, and they have proven that they are listening to consumers and trying to give them what they want (rather than blindly creating the products they think the market actually wants). That said, if Amflow wants to build a truly stout brand, having repeatable processes/solutions in place underlying all these other business issues will become just as important as having a kick-arse motor. I truly hope they don't fumble the ball, because I do think it's good to shake up an industry once in a while. Competitors will catch up though, and I'm sure the good ones are all hard at work with an existential fire under their butts.
Over the last few months I've been talking to dealers of various brands, those who are carrying Amflow, those who were asked to carry Amflow but decided against doing so, etc. IMO, those who chose not to do business with Amflow presented a very solid case against doing so. It sounded to me as if the risk/reward balance for an authorized wholesaler was out of sync with the wholesaler's typical expectations. In other words, Amflow wanted them to shoulder considerably more of a burden vs. the other preexisting MTB manufacturers they were used to dealing with. My hunch is that Amflow really just wants to grab the higher margin DTC sales, and views legacy resellers as a necessary evil for the time being (but one they must deal with as those resellers are so entrenched in the industry). It reminds me of the Tesla sales model in that regard.
Given the above, I therefore decided to wait a bit before buying an Amflow bike, despite all its really cool features and capabilities. I instead just bought a new-old-stock Specialized Levo 4 (which is now apparently loathed around here
) for about 50% off the original MSRP. I plan to enjoy it for a year or two and let everyone else be guinea pigs for Amflow to get their products and processes sorted. Is the Levo 4 as good of a bike as the PX Carbon? Possibly not. But, I think it will be a big step up over my old bike and will keep me smiling for the next couple years, which is my primary objective. I can live with not having the absolute ______ (fastest, most powerful, lightest weight, etc.).That said, I do really hope Amflow/DJI gets their mountain bike business model as sorted as their motors seem to be. They are impressively innovative, and are definitely moving the sport of EMTBing forward. As amusing as I find masochistic people chasing the shiny new thing, I do hate seeing people misled. Hopefully these guys don't alienate too many potential future loyalists along the way. To quote the infamous linguist George W. Bush, "Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
Good luck Amflow!
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