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This is a misleading point. Pivot sold through and delivered their first production run of Amp’d bikes. Amflow has yet to deliver any new bikes to US end users.If you could only get a Pivot AMP'd here in the US either. I sat there while my dealer called trying to get a Team XX for me, no bueno and no date given. My Amflow PX Carbon Pro will likely be here in 3-4 weeks.
So dealers couldn't even preorder them yet? I put in my reservation like a month ago.PX Carbon dealer pre-orders opened this morning for dealer delivery reservation. PR will be later.
Me too. Yes, they are entering them now for finality. The original orders were fed to them early on to judge volume for delivery waves.So dealers couldn't even preorder them yet? I put in my reservation like a month ago.
I am curious what sort of rides you see yourself doing, where the 700wh battery pack would be advantageous? I understand that the motor will hit higher peak outputs when using the 700, and sustain them beyond 10min without derating, due to the custom cells, but I had the opposite take on the situation.Yeah, PX Pro all the way with the new custom battery cells. PR is not even a consideration for me. Look here to understand.
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No other bikes have this custom battery like the PX (other than Atherton).
Personally I think the 700wh is ideal for many of my rides, and hopefully they'll come out with the rumored 200-400wh extender for my longest rides. 800wh is a bit more than I need for most rides, and 800wh+extender is more than I need for any of my rides.I am curious what sort of rides you see yourself doing, where the 700wh battery pack would be advantageous? I understand that the motor will hit higher peak outputs when using the 700, and sustain them beyond 10min without derating, due to the custom cells, but I had the opposite take on the situation.
To my mind, sure, the higher output could occasionally be fun, but the M2S (and M2, and M1 for that matter) are already so damn powerful that getting a full 1500w just doesn't seem like a very important feature. Similarly, most of my climbs are short enough that derating after 10min wouldn't be a problem, and, more importantly, if I were doing a trip to an alpine area with climbs of 20-40min+, I wouldn't want to use the higher output due to range anxiety. Sure, the 700 battery could sustain a higher output for the whole climb, but you would essentially deplete the whole battery by the time you reach the top. Plus your motor would be boiling hot. If you want to do 2 (or more) climbs like that in a day, you need to drop down to a lower assist mode, in which case the higher output and lack of derating of the 700wh cease to be advantagous.
For those reasons, I was leaning more toward bikes with the 800wh battery, as the power outputs and durations seem more than sufficient for real world use, and I'd have an additional 100wh on board to reduce range anxiety. The weight will be slightly higher, but the wh/kg ratio is actually surprisingly close to the 700wh battery, so the extra weight is, at least in part, related to the extra 100wh, rather than just being reflective of the "older" tech.
About the only time I'd thought I might prefer the 700wh would be if I only had 60-90min to ride, and wanted to just rip the whole ride at 100% pace. That sounds super fun, but I wouldn't want to buy a bike that is optimized just for that, at the expense of longer rides.
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