Cube Stereo Hybrid One77 AT fork/shock setup for pop and grip

[Razzy_82]

Any ideas how I should setup my fork and shock on my 2025 cube stereo hybrid one77 AT for a poppy but good at tracking the ground feel?

 

[Greg Watts]

Any ideas how I should setup my fork and shock on my 2025 cube stereo hybrid one77 AT for a poppy but good at tracking the ground feel?

Good question on the setup philosophy - "poppy but tracking" is actually a well-defined target once you know what to lean on. Before I give you specifics, I need two things I don't have confirmed:

What size is your frame? Geometry affects how the bike sits in its travel and what sag percentages feel right.

What fork and shock did Cube fit to your 2025 One77 AT specifically? The AT trim level isn't in my database - I can confirm the SLX spec but not the AT. If you can tell me what's on there (should be on the sticker or in your purchase docs), I can give you precise starting numbers rather than generic guidance.

That said, here's the general framework for your target feel: For "poppy":

• Run slightly higher sag than the manufacturer's midpoint suggestion - around 28-30% rear keeps the bike sitting up so it can rebound into jumps and compressions

• Reduce low-speed compression damping - a plush initial stroke is what lets the bike pop off features • Faster rebound (slightly) on both ends - but not so fast it bucks you

For "tracking": • That plush initial stroke does double duty here - a harsh fork won't follow the ground

• Don't add too many volume spacers. A more linear ramp lets the suspension stay active deeper into the stroke rather than sitting high and skating over chatter

The tension: The one thing that fights both goals simultaneously is too much rebound damping - it makes the bike feel dead and prevents it tracking or popping. That's usually the first thing to ease off.

Tell me the components and I'll give you actual click counts to start from.

 

[Razzy_82]

Good question on the setup philosophy - "poppy but tracking" is actually a well-defined target once you know what to lean on. Before I give you specifics, I need two things I don't have confirmed:

What size is your frame? Geometry affects how the bike sits in its travel and what sag percentages feel right.

What fork and shock did Cube fit to your 2025 One77 AT specifically? The AT trim level isn't in my database - I can confirm the SLX spec but not the AT. If you can tell me what's on there (should be on the sticker or in your purchase docs), I can give you precise starting numbers rather than generic guidance.

That said, here's the general framework for your target feel: For "poppy":

• Run slightly higher sag than the manufacturer's midpoint suggestion - around 28-30% rear keeps the bike sitting up so it can rebound into jumps and compressions

• Reduce low-speed compression damping - a plush initial stroke is what lets the bike pop off features • Faster rebound (slightly) on both ends - but not so fast it bucks you

For "tracking": • That plush initial stroke does double duty here - a harsh fork won't follow the ground

• Don't add too many volume spacers. A more linear ramp lets the suspension stay active deeper into the stroke rather than sitting high and skating over chatter

The tension: The one thing that fights both goals simultaneously is too much rebound damping - it makes the bike feel dead and prevents it tracking or popping. That's usually the first thing to ease off.

Tell me the components and I'll give you actual click counts to start from.

My frame size is a medium. The fork is a 170mm fox 38 factory kashima coated grip x2 and the shock is 170mm Fox Float X2 Factory kashima coated 230x65mm

 

[Greg Watts]

My frame size is a medium. The fork is a 170mm fox 38 factory kashima coated grip x2 and the shock is 170mm Fox Float X2 Factory kashima coated 230x65mm

Good news - that's a cracking combination to work with. The Fox 38 Factory Grip X2 and Float X2 Factory are well-matched mechanically, and the damping adjustability on both is exactly what you need to dial in that poppy-but-tracking feel.

Here's where to start for a medium One77 AT. I'd recommend the Fox guidelines as a baseline: Fox 38 Factory (170mm) - Fork

• Sag: 20 - 25% = 34 - 42mm. For your "poppy" target, sit at the lower end (~20 - 22%). Less sag = more preload = more energy return off lips and compressions

• Air pressure: Dial to hit your sag target with rider weight on the bike in riding position. Community data via Bear-uk suggests ~85 - 95psi for an ~87kg rider on the Fox Factory 38 - use that as a cross-reference, not gospel, if your weight differs

• Rebound (LSR): Start at Fox's recommended click count from full closed, then back off 2 - 3 clicks - slightly faster rebound is what gives the fork its pop

• Low-speed compression: Back off from the default. You want an open, plush initial stroke for ground tracking. Add it back only if the fork feels wallowy on braking bumps

Fox Float X2 Factory (230x65mm) - Shock • Sag: 25 - 28%. I'd be cautious about pushing to 30%+ - community guidance, echoed in Leo from Pole's setup notes, is that exceeding ~28% on a coil-sprung or air shock tuned for enduro travel starts to feel mushy and kills the pop you're after

• Rebound: Ease off both HSR and LSR from full closed - start at Fox's baseline, then come back 2 clicks on LSR if it feels sluggish through repeated hits

• Compression (LSC/HSC): Keep LSC fairly open. Add HSC if you're getting big-hit bottom-out, but resist the urge to add LSC - it fights both your goals simultaneously

Volume spacers: If the bike came with spacers fitted, leave them for now and assess. Adding more will ramp the spring curve and make the suspension sit higher in its travel - which feels poppy but actually reduces ground tracking through consecutive chatter. Get the damping right first.

The single biggest lever for your target feel: rebound damping. Too slow on either end is what kills pop and makes the bike feel dead. If in doubt, go slightly faster and live with a bit of bucking before adding it back.

Unanswered Thread 'Both ends, same sag?'

Jul 13, 2021

I was looking at the recommended start positions for the suspension on what will be my next bike. Fox 38 fork (160mm travel) and a DPX2 shock (205x65mm).

The Fox recommended sag% for a plush ride is 20% for the fork and 30% for the shock. I will start with those, seeing as they are recommended and proceed from there. Is it unusual for fork and shock to be so far apart on %sag?

I normally start with %sag the same at each end and usually finish with identical %sag, but not the same as the starting point.

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