New Amflow Models?

I think I need to post this in the largest US MTB forum (500,000 members at least on MTBR.com) so people are better informed. I made an assumption that ebike batteries and chargers sold in the US were UL listed but obviously not. Given the number os ebike charger/battery related fires, this should be a big deal for people to consider.

On every charger I have (especially ebikes) I monitor how warm the charger and downtube get the first few times and I no longer leave them charging if leaving home or going to bed. I set an alarm so I do not forget and go to bed. The last thing I need is to burn down my house and family. I do not have an EV yet but I will do the same when I get one. Thanks for whomever brought up the UL listing point.
But the downtube is skinny! Doesn't that negate any safety concerns?
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Well, of course it does. It will probably take 10-15 seconds longer to make the house burn down.
 
But the downtube is skinny! Doesn't that negate any safety concerns?
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Dude you literally have a dji action 6 that has lithium batteries. U better get rid of it asap!

Stop being such a hater man. U guys find any way possible to hate on Avinox. Just don’t get one! We don’t need to constantly hear excuses for why you refuse to get one. Nobody cares that owns one (because there isn’t a reason to care yet!). If you’re not even in the market then just go enjoy your bike!
 
Dude you literally have a dji action 6 that has lithium batteries. U better get rid of it asap!

Stop being such a hater man. U guys find any way possible to hate on Avinox. Just don’t get one! We don’t need to constantly hear excuses for why you refuse to get one. Nobody cares that owns one (because there isn’t a reason to care yet!). If you’re not even in the market then just go enjoy your bike!
The difference (besides the amount of potential energy) is I don't know of an action camera using a UL Listed battery system. However I do know of eMTB that use a UL Listed battery system. I'm not even saying it's an Avinox deal breaker, but it is a factor in my decision making process.

What I find amusing is how many people are quite accepting of others prioritizing a cosmetic feature like downtube size, yet I'm a loon for considering the safety of the battery and charging system. Guess that's the Internet for ya.
 
The difference (besides the amount of potential energy) is I don't know of an action camera using a UL Listed battery system. However I do know of eMTB that use a UL Listed battery system. I'm not even saying it's an Avinox deal breaker, but it is a factor in my decision making process.

What I find amusing is how many people are quite accepting of others prioritizing a cosmetic feature like downtube size, yet I'm a loon for considering the safety of the battery and charging system. Guess that's the Internet for ya.
It can also catch fire just like any other lithium battery… You went on the same rants about dji spying stuff then went and bought a dji action camera lol.

I think you’re misunderstanding the entire downtube thing. You believe we all prioritize that which is not true at all. Does a skinny downtube making you second guess if it’s even an e-bike make us excited, absolutely. You’re lying to yourself if you don’t agree with that. Levo, which you own, gets a lot of downtube hate and the issue with the Levo 4 is not just that fat downtube. It’s also not that amazing for riding characteristics, and not light. That’s not to say it’s a bad bike, but why not go for skinny downtube AND good riding bike?? Plenty amazing options out there now and more coming. You stop at us talking about the downtube and think that’s all we care about.
 
TÜV Süd und TÜV Rheinland have certified the complete Avinox ecosystem.

Didn’t know they couldn’t be trusted. So it’s worth more than another company that’s located in your country with the houses made of paper or really wild balcony constructions.

So the UL listing doesn’t matter at all.
 
You believe we all prioritize that which is not true at all. Does a skinny downtube making you second guess if it’s even an e-bike make us excited, absolutely. You’re lying to yourself if you don’t agree with that. You stop at us talking about the downtube and think that’s all we care about.
Anyone ever share that it's a sign of weakness when people attempt to define others' position in a debate? It's simply more effective to focus on why your position is the best one.
 
Anyone ever share that it's a sign of weakness when people attempt to define others' position in a debate? It's simply more effective to focus on why your position is the best one.
Posts fake videos. But wants us to trust his opinion. And not trust European Certification.

Where do I sign up to this cult ....... :ROFLMAO:

Come on bro ...... Where's my "Shit Post" emoji ...... You know you want to ......
 
It's cute that some people still fall for cheesy AI videos and still think the US is somehow relevant to foreign manufacturers. The sad reality is that we're now right up there with N. Korea among the most economically isolated nations in the world. Not only are there triple-digit sanctions on practically all international trade, but all DJI products are outright banned from the US. So even if other foreign manufacturers still wanted U.L. approval for some reason, DJI might not even be allowed to.

So, can we move on, please? Two pages of "I don't trust TÜV Süd und TÜV Rheinland certifications" seems like enough.
 
So, can we move on, please?
Come on man. We've had 9 pages of a bike that's not even released. I have an Amflow, and even I'm looking for a distraction. ;)

So this guy walks into the Amflow thread. Posts a fake video of an Amflow on fire. Critics the European Certification, saying it needs the US Certification.

And then when exposed as fake. Rather than apologising for the mistake. He doubles down on the certification rhetoric. Hit's everyone with a "Shit Post" emoji. And you expect that he won't get challenged, and we should just move on ?

Ummm ....... Welcome to the internet, mate. It must be your first day ...... :ROFLMAO:
 
Before you all start spiralling downwards any further, can we bring an end to this line of conversation or at least keep it technically relevant if you really feel the need to continue, oh and don't forget the new Amflow models.

@Powerslider Sorry, banning you from the thread for 48 hours as we'd all like a peaceful weekend. You of all people who complained about Ambro's spamming Levo threads should know better.
 
Back on track
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Anything on either PR model? Thanks!

Anyone know if we're stuck using speed sensor rotors (or if we can use normal rotors with a speed sensor disk)?

Huh? I use normal rotors with a speed sensor disk on my PL.
 
Huh? I use normal rotors with a speed sensor disk on my PL.
Indeed, that's the PL setup. Apparently all new bikes are speced with the Magura rotor that has an integrated speed sensor - so we would need to stick with magura rotors, even if | switch brake brands.
 
Indeed, that's the PL setup. Apparently all new bikes are speced with the Magura rotor that has an integrated speed sensor - so we would need to stick with magura rotors, even if | switch brake brands.
I'm highly doubtful that this will be the case, but let's see.
 
Got an opportunity to pick up a new PL carbon silver for $5500. Based on what we’re seeing specs wise for these new models, worth pulling the trigger on this one? I don’t really want to have to wait until late May-early June to get the newer model here in the US and additionally pay likely another $2000, especially since it doesn’t seem like too major an upgrade?
 
Indeed, that's the PL setup. Apparently all new bikes are speced with the Magura rotor that has an integrated speed sensor - so we would need to stick with magura rotors, even if | switch brake brands.
You can just buy an aftermarket speed sensor disc for use with normal rotors.
 
I'm highly doubtful that this will be the case, but let's see.
Magura rotors have opening for magnet sensor, to be compatible with multiple brands.

Avinox does't use magnet, but rather a speed sensor disc. As such, you can use any rotor you'd like with Avinox sensor.
 
Magura rotors have opening for magnet sensor, to be compatible with multiple brands.

Avinox does't use magnet, but rather a speed sensor disc. As such, you can use any rotor you'd like with Avinox sensor.

That’s how mine is set up.
 
Was always going to be heavier with gravity casing tyres old one had exo and exo+?
 
Funny how people are complaining about Zendit weight while megamo/crussis/amflow with proper tires will weight one kg less
 
Hmmm ............ My PL Carbon Pro is 21kgs with 800wh battery, mullet and plastic pedals with metal SPD clips. Even my Teewing 180/180 Enduro with DD casing tyres is only 22.9kgs.

I guess lets see the official release.

The AMFLOW come with Schwalbe radial Gravity and tubes and they Are Heavy!!

The Weight includeds also bottel Cage and the light.
 
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