Levo Gen 4 Gen 4 Sworks and Non-Sworks New Firmware Coming Soon (Yes, Really !)

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Não, discordo. O peso é, de fato, um fator determinante para o desempenho, tanto em bicicletas convencionais quanto em bicicletas elétricas. Os quase 5 kg extras da Specialized G4 representam quase 20% a mais de peso. Para um ciclista de 75 kg (como eu), isso é muito significativo.

E quando você diz: "Além disso, um motor Amflow seria muito mais pesado para atender às especificações do Levo", o motor Avinox é mais leve, tem mais torque e é mais de 25% mais potente que o do Levo G4. Qual é o seu raciocínio?

Quanto à análise que afirma que a Levo é a melhor, certamente é uma propaganda paga da Specialized...

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No, I disagree. Weight is, in fact, a determining factor for performance, both in conventional bicycles and in electric bicycles. The nearly 5 extra kilograms of the Specialized G4 represent almost 20% more weight. For a 75 kg rider (like me), that is very significant.

And when you say: “Moreover, an Amflow motor would be much heavier to meet the Levo’s specifications,” the Avinox motor is lighter, has more torque, and is more than 25% more powerful than the Levo G4’s. What is your reasoning?

As for the analysis claiming that the Levo is the best, it is certainly paid advertising from Specialized…
It's a 6.9% difference not nearly 20%, but I take the point that the lighter you are, the more the difference makes. However it's really nothing to worry about and I very much doubt would change the range anymore than a mile or two. As a real world example, on a 52 mile 1900 ft of uphill (so fairly flat) ride, and with 3kg difference between my wife and me, we were 2% difference on battery used
 
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If there's an increase of power at no cost we're all going to go for it. I wonder if people would choose the upgraded power if there was a cost to it.
What would you pay to have your standard Levo 4 deliver +54W power and +10Nm Torque (S-Works levels)? $100? $250? $500? $750? $1000?
 
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If there's an increase of power at no cost we're all going to go for it. I wonder if people would choose the upgraded power if there was a cost to it.
What would you pay to have your standard Levo 4 deliver +54W power and 10Nm Torque (S-Works levels)? $100? $250? $500? $750? $1000?
I would fill out a questionnaire, to get it
I would brush my teeth, to get it
I would take it as an unnecessary gift w purchase.
But I shall shill out no longer for power.
I’m satisfied enough with stock power, power delivery, power consumption, weight, color, tire size, brakes, ethnicity, and even the Manufacturer.
Still curious enough to watch though!
What would you pay people ?
 
If there's an increase of power at no cost we're all going to go for it. I wonder if people would choose the upgraded power if there was a cost to it.
What would you pay to have your standard Levo 4 deliver +54W power and +10Nm Torque (S-Works levels)? $100? $250? $500? $750? $1000?
I would not upgrade power for a cost at all.

Only update I would take is for the features in the manual we don't have, like jump count / distance through the air etc, apparently these are promised based on a post on this forum somewhere!
 
I would not upgrade power for a cost at all.

Only update I would take is for the features in the manual we don't have, like jump count / distance through the air etc, apparently these are promised based on a post on this forum somewhere!
Perhaps I started too high. You wouldn't upgrade the motor output for even a nominal fee like $25?
 
If there's an increase of power at no cost we're all going to go for it. I wonder if people would choose the upgraded power if there was a cost to it.
What would you pay to have your standard Levo 4 deliver +54W power and +10Nm Torque (S-Works levels)? $100? $250? $500? $750? $1000?
If Specialized charges for the upgrade I will sell my Levo and buy a Rail+ or Amflow. Ive had 8 Levos and I wouldn't buy another. There is no way they will charge. I don't feel like I need it anyway.
 
Brilliant, or even a yearly subscription and the premium package would include access to the wireless shifter and dropper... what could possibly go wrong with sales.
 
I'd like to enter the debate about the range of different systems with a variable that's often overlooked. In my experience, the performance differences between different motors and their respective methods of gear reduction and clutch operation aren't as significant as they might seem. The characteristics of the battery cells have a major impact on the amount of net energy you can draw from the battery. A cell with a high instantaneous consumption capacity can prevent a significant portion of the energy from being converted into heat and lost. We mustn't forget that, just as with cars, China dominates the battery supply chain and therefore has access to the best technology before anyone else. Little is said about the demands placed on a battery to deliver 1200W at 36V, which is 33 Amps. I fear we'll soon see some homemade range extenders built with a single set of cells that aren't capable of handling that energy demand go up in flames.
 
Why is everyone now assuming there'll be a cost to the new firmware? Because that one poster asked a general question about if people would hypothetically pay for an update?
 
I would gladly pay $100 for US version software, imo that's much more useful than S-Works software.
 
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