Megamo Reason - Avinox 160mm Travel eMTB

irie said:
To me that looks very close! 🫣
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Its very decent - its still actually about 5mm lower than the Trek rail BB to top of seatpost collar (this bike measures approx 480mm from BB to top of oneup collar). My Crestline or Unno get no where near. Lowest I get on Unno is 500mm BB to top of collar, and thats only a 210mm dropper.
 
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COOLBIKE said:
But is there any special washer/adapter there? Because without it, ring would probably bend when tightening with screws...I think...
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It’s a centre lock rotor with the speed sensor on top.

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It works because rotors are Centerlock, and have flat surface under the sensor. Shimano 6-bolt discs would probably require extra washers. Oh well, I'll figure it out when I buy Avinox for next season. Or maybe I'll just put on Sram HS2 ;)
@Rob Rides EMTB Thanks for the photos :)
 
Ndanger said:
If flying is the issue and not charging in the hotel room. Until an optional second battery is available for those of us who travel with an eMtb I don't see how it would be possible to use it in 2 different regions.

However, when traveling it would be possible to drop the motor and remove the battery, on the Amflow it is a relatively straight forward process as long as you have a chain ring tool.

I have come to the realization that for my needs I am having to have a bike dedicated for each region that I ride since where I live there is no mountain biking practically speaking. It is not ideal or inexpensive but just a fact of life.
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There's no mountain biking in Kona? I had heard Maui had quite a scene, and there's a lot more open land on the the big island so I figured there'd be some good stuff there.

Regarding your statements on removable batteries, bikes, and regions, I'm a little confused what you are advocating for. You wrote "Until an optional second battery is available for those of us who travel with an eMtb I don't see how it would be possible to use it in 2 different regions." and you wrote "However, when traveling it would be possible to drop the motor and remove the battery, on the Amflow it is a relatively straight forward process as long as you have a chain ring tool."
So is the problem with using your bike in 2 regions due to the airline restrictions on traveling with the battery, difficulty of removing the battery, or is it due to geofencing by the motor/battery maker? It isn't clear to me based on your description as you seem to say you would need an optional 2nd battery, but also say it is a relatively straightforward process to remove it, and the use of the term "regions" makes it sound like there is some sort of software limitation, like each battery is coded to a specific region.

Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm hoping to do some international travel with my next bike, so these sorts of underdiscussed details may be very key in determining what bikes I consider.
FYI for those who haven't come across this option, I have seen some bike rental places in popular MTB travel destinations are also offering battery rentals, so you could fly with your own bike, leaving the battery at home, and simply rent a battery while you are in whatever cool spot you have chosen. Not sure how widespread it is yet, but hopefully it catches on.
 
has anyone a contact outside [email protected] (found on FB) to ask the max Insertion Depth of seatpost of size S and M (of CRB 160)
i wrote twice without response... Amflow and Teewing answered after few hours... Shame on european customer care!!
 
west said:
Good video Rob - Out of all the emtb's available right now would this be your pick if you had to part ways with your own money?
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Hmm tough one. It would be very high on the list. I’d go for entry level carbon and then upgrade parts.

Bang for buck is good on the entry level models for an Avinox bike.

If I could mullet the bike with a 170 38 and it handle well, it would be right up there. I’m going to try and test one in that configuration at some point.
 
TheKaiser said:
There's no mountain biking in Kona? I had heard Maui had quite a scene, and there's a lot more open land on the the big island so I figured there'd be some good stuff there.
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Maui has good riding options with it being an older island that has more soil and better overall riding conditions. Before the park service cracked down on bike access to the Haleakala summit we were able to ride from the summit through a redwood forest to the base. Kona is limited with riding trails, and the Big Island is very rocky in general being created by a hot spot of volcano activity. I have done a lot of riding on the big island including an enduro race "Mauna Kea 400" but it is not ultimate and I travel for the type of riding I prefer.
 
TheKaiser said:
You wrote "Until an optional second battery is available for those of us who travel with an eMtb I don't see how it would be possible to use it in 2 different regions." and you wrote "However, when traveling it would be possible to drop the motor and remove the battery, on the Amflow it is a relatively straight forward process as long as you have a chain ring tool."
So is the problem with using your bike in 2 regions due to the airline restrictions on traveling with the battery, difficulty of removing the battery, or is it due to geofencing by the motor/battery maker?

FYI for those who haven't come across this option, I have seen some bike rental places in popular MTB travel destinations are also offering battery rentals, so you could fly with your own bike, leaving the battery at home, and simply rent a battery while you are in whatever cool spot you have chosen. Not sure how widespread it is yet, but hopefully it catches on.
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My options for riding in different areas are difficult because of the "Lithium Ion" battery not being able to be transported on an airline. Ultimately I would, for example, buy a bike in Europe and store a battery there for the area / region, then travel to Alaska and have a battery there for my riding in that region / area. I could remove the battery when flying and have a second battery at my next destination.

I have been trying to find a way to buy a second Avinox battery and have not seen availability yet. Unless I can find a second battery it is not possible to use an Avinox Drivetrain in 2 areas.

The cost and time to ship a battery ground / boat is prohibitive, the season would be over by the time the battery arrived and the cost of the battery with expensive shipping would be half of a new bike price. So I have decided to just dedicate a bike to each area. I spend months in each area and renting is not an option cost wise.
 
Honestly.... I'm way more interested in the reason air than the big brother. Get us those downcountry emtbs. All these enduro emtbs are massively overbiked for 99% of users and there are real penalties to more suspension than you need in numbing rides, decreased ease of on-off (30% sag is 2 inches of extra height at this travel!), and of course weight. 2kg or so dropped from the reason to reason air.
 
curufinwe_wins said:
Honestly.... I'm way more interested in the reason air than the big brother. Get us those downcountry emtbs. All these enduro emtbs are massively overbiked for 99% of users and there are real penalties to more suspension than you need in numbing rides, decreased ease of on-off (30% sag is 2 inches of extra height at this travel!), and of course weight. 2kg or so dropped from the reason to reason air.
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Yes, lower weight makes a lot of sense for XC racing especially if there is a lot of cash laying around for a light bike. If loosing 2 kg costs about a thousand dollars a kg is the weight savings of 2 % a game changer on a 21 kg bike / 84 rider combined weight. With that being said, I lowered my system weight by 2 kg for free when I started eating less pie recently going from 86 kg to 84 kg.

Since I had the choice of having 170 / 150 suspension along with the extra 2 kg of additional weight and a savings of a few thousand dollars, the choice was an easy one for my non racing needs.

The lightweight bikes are very compelling and I would love to have one to add to the quiver of bikes if I could only justify the cost.
 
franciscoasismm said:
The Megamo Reason is fantastic, but those who prefer aluminum e-bikes are in luck. It will be the first to arrive, and with a price tag close to €3,500, the AMFLOW AL will once again dominate the market when it's introduced in January. A new motor? Of course, the latest from Avinox will be available in its main partner before the rest. If I were planning to buy an aluminum e-bike with an AVINOX motor, I might have waited until after Christmas.

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Where is that post from?
 
Ndanger said:
Yes, lower weight makes a lot of sense for XC racing especially if there is a lot of cash laying around for a light bike. If loosing 2 kg costs about a thousand dollars a kg is the weight savings of 2 % a game changer on a 21 kg bike / 84 rider combined weight. With that being said, I lowered my system weight by 2 kg for free when I started eating less pie recently going from 86 kg to 84 kg.

Since I had the choice of having 170 / 150 suspension along with the extra 2 kg of additional weight and a savings of a few thousand dollars, the choice was an easy one for my non racing needs.

The lightweight bikes are very compelling and I would love to have one to add to the quiver of bikes if I could only justify the cost.
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Honestly i care less about the weight than the rest. 170/150 is just way too much for me. Ive downstroked my emtb to around 130/130 and have 0 regrets.
 
I'm a bit torn between a full fat or SL bike but this appears to have the benefits of both. The alu model is definitely one to add to my list of considerations for my first eBike, likely replacing the Orbea Rise and Trek Fuel+ which I was also looking at in the SL category.

Headset cable routing is pain but that seems to be the way many manufacturers are going, so as much I'd prefer not to have it I wouldn't discount a bike solely because of it.

What are the Avinox motors like to pedal once the battery runs out? Is there any noticeable drag/resistance?
 
MeatBike said:
I'm a bit torn between a full fat or SL bike but this appears to have the benefits of both. The alu model is definitely one to add to my list of considerations for my first eBike, likely replacing the Orbea Rise and Trek Fuel+ which I was also looking at in the SL category.

Headset cable routing is pain but that seems to be the way many manufacturers are going, so as much I'd prefer not to have it I wouldn't discount a bike solely because of it.

What are the Avinox motors like to pedal once the battery runs out? Is there any noticeable drag/resistance?
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So I havent pedaled on 0% / properly dead yet, but I have done a lot (50mi or so) of pedalling with it "off" (aka on but 0 assist), and to me it feels more lively and easy to pedal than my other ebikes. Including a bosch gen 5 cx. Now given the general concensus is that the bosch cx has near 0 drag when off, I have to assume this does as well and the only delta apparent is that the avinox bike is 20 lbs lighter than the bosch one (Trek touring bike).
 
curufinwe_wins said:
So I havent pedaled on 0% / properly dead yet, but I have done a lot (50mi or so) of pedalling with it "off" (aka on but 0 assist), and to me it feels more lively and easy to pedal than my other ebikes. Including a bosch gen 5 cx. Now given the general concensus is that the bosch cx has near 0 drag when off, I have to assume this does as well and the only delta apparent is that the avinox bike is 20 lbs lighter than the bosch one (Trek touring bike).
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That's helpful to know, thank you!
 
Dear Rob,
Regarding the Reason, would you recommend to change the fork to a 170mm Fox 38 Fork to use it in the bike park or like the YT Decoy SN?
Thank you and best regards
Christian
 
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Most (not all) of these so-called new bikes are all using the same rear suspension and GEO (very close). Basically this shows that the MTB & EMTB offerings have reached a ceiling of development for at least the last 2 years. Outside of the motor/battery combination they really don’t offer anything new. On the good side, this means you focus on the motor/battery combination and support after purchase. None of this is a bad thing, the only point I’m trying to make is aside from a few true NEW offerings out there which are limited in supply The rest are basically the same with different kit offerings.
 
Recently ordered this, I was already interested as it's a brand I've admired in the XC racing scene Megamo-Buff, but the video you did really helped. Thanks @Rob Rides EMTB . Gone for the CRB03 which is the mechanical XT build in blue. I'm usually a Large but gone Med on based on the long reach geo and then changing stem to 50mm and bars to 55mm rise SCHWEEET! Will upgrade dropper once i can figure out for certain what max travel i can fit. Megamo say it has max insertion on a medium of 260mm but i'm going to wait until it's here and check things out. Due to be delivered in January. first e-bike. VERY excited!
 
Christian050567 said:
Dear Rob,
Regarding the Reason, would you recommend to change the fork to a 170mm Fox 38 Fork to use it in the bike park or like the YT Decoy SN?
Thank you and best regards
Christian
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Yes I'd like to try it with 170mm FOX 38.
 
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