Megamo Reason - Avinox 160mm Travel eMTB

I’m amazed how many would no buy a bike with headset routing , just how often are you guys are pulling your bikes to bits every five mins lol
Had my current Esommet for coming up 5 yers , I’ve probably taken front end apart 3 or 4 times in those years and that’s to replace bearings so I don’t see it as an issue , you can replace the stock stem on the Megamo with a part from across so you can run any stem you want .
I’m waiting for my Megamo Reason AL03 it’s due end of January , was looking at getting the Amflow but hated the look of it the Reason is a nice looking bike can’t wait to get out on it
 
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Watty said:
I’m amazed how many would no buy a bike with headset routing , just how often are you guys are pulling your bikes to bits every five mins lol
Had my current Esommet for coming up 5 yers , I’ve probably taken front end apart 3 or 4 times in those years and that’s to replace bearings so I don’t see it as an issue , you can replace the stock stem on the Megamo with a part from across so you can run any stem you want .
I’m waiting for my Megamo Reason AL03 it’s due end of January , was looking at getting the Amflow but hated the look of it the Reason is a nice looking bike can’t wait to get out on it
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There's ZERO benefit, besides debatable aesthetics and only downsides with it comes to maintenance. If there was a bike that checked ALL the boxes and had integrated headset, it wouldn't stop me from buying. However, its certainly a con IMO.
 
That & the non removable battery are enough for me to stay away. YMMV. Why they couldn't have at least added blanked off frame ports is a mystery to me, give customers the choice.

Crussis E full, give or take the same bike does:

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Watty said:
I’m amazed how many would no buy a bike with headset routing , just how often are you guys are pulling your bikes to bits every five mins lol
Had my current Esommet for coming up 5 yers , I’ve probably taken front end apart 3 or 4 times in those years and that’s to replace bearings so I don’t see it as an issue , you can replace the stock stem on the Megamo with a part from across so you can run any stem you want .
I’m waiting for my Megamo Reason AL03 it’s due end of January , was looking at getting the Amflow but hated the look of it the Reason is a nice looking bike can’t wait to get out on it
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The point is for me, that there's 20 other bikes just as good as the internally headset routed bike. If the internally routed bike was head and shoulders above the other bikes, then maybe, but they're not. So you're buying complexity for no apparent reason/benefit. Hence why it's a no from me.
 
Watty said:
I’m amazed how many would no buy a bike with headset routing , just how often are you guys are pulling your bikes to bits every five mins lol
Had my current Esommet for coming up 5 yers , I’ve probably taken front end apart 3 or 4 times in those years and that’s to replace bearings so I don’t see it as an issue , you can replace the stock stem on the Megamo with a part from across so you can run any stem you want .
I’m waiting for my Megamo Reason AL03 it’s due end of January , was looking at getting the Amflow but hated the look of it the Reason is a nice looking bike can’t wait to get out on it
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Look at the new commencals,they have the dji motor,amflows just look bland in comparison.
 
garethld said:
Nice bike that, but no UK availability it seems
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I'm not suggesting you try to buy one although I am tickled by the UK centric outlook, I'm pointing out that the frames are made in the same factory & Megamo made a specific design choice that undermines a section of their market for no greater reason than aesthetics.
 
Weeksy said:
The point is for me, that there's 20 other bikes just as good as the internally headset routed bike. If the internally routed bike was head and shoulders above the other bikes, then maybe, but they're not. So you're buying complexity for no apparent reason/benefit. Hence why it's a no from me.
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Internally routed through the headset bearings, which is not very pleasant, and then there are brands that use a lower headset bearing that is pressed into the lower cup. When you want to install a new bearing, you have to remove the cup and press a new cup with bearing back into it. It is a Nockblock system
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Weeksy said:
The point is for me, that there's 20 other bikes just as good as the internally headset routed bike. If the internally routed bike was head and shoulders above the other bikes, then maybe, but they're not. So you're buying complexity for no apparent reason/benefit. Hence why it's a no from me.
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I completely agree. In addition, this solution allows dirt to enter the bearings too easily and increases their maintenance.
 
anyone knows the weight of the Aluminium models yet?
Did see a video where they spoke about 2.5KG more than carbon
 
kottenp said:
looks amazing congrats!
If possible could you report the weight and size?
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According to others in standard trim it’s 21.9kg (I don’t have scales) I ordered medium however at 5’11” I normally add always ride a large , I’ve got a large vitus esommet and side by side they are exactly the same size , my only gripe about the bike is the dropper post is too short and needs pulling up from seat tube which defeats the object
 
Has anyone here had any experience with mullet setup and/or coil?
 
Mountain bike rider havea great piece on this bike against the unno:

Very dissapointingly turns out the BB is 15mm lower than announced in the geo chart and arguably too low for a 160mm travel bike. So definetly would not mulet it.
 
Rando_12345 said:
Mountain bike rider havea great piece on this bike against the unno:

Very dissapointingly turns out the BB is 15mm lower than announced in the geo chart and arguably too low for a 160mm travel bike. So definetly would not mulet it.
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Wow, 15mm is pretty far out of the claimed spec! You don't hear much about them lately with current bikes already being so low and slack, but back in the day people sometimes used offset shock bushings to drop the back end of the bike. It's not very common but in theory you can use them in reverse to achieve the opposite effect, so if someone has a Megamo and finds the BB too low they could partially ameliorate that with an offset bushing (or even 2 of them if you can get one to fit the yoke). They're usually good for about 5mm of BB height each (depends on the leverage ratio and bolt diameter) so you could potentially get a 10mm boost out of it. That would also steepen the head and seat angles about 0.5 degrees which could be a pro or a con depending on your desires.
 
TheKaiser said:
Wow, 15mm is pretty far out of the claimed spec!
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15mm is a decent whack out. Watched this vid a few days ago thought they could both do with shorter cranks. Don't think he mentions crank length but the DJI motor lets us get away with shorter cranks without thinking much about it. The Amflow comes with 155mm, which felt right from day one... Who needs leverage when you have all that paaaah.
The bit that worried me was the 155 X 2 stance = 310mm, vs the old goto 175mm cranks at 350mm, that's about nearly 15% shorter stance, which I thought would feel weird coming into tech or jumps but it's fine.
A few new players that have a bit of geo tinkering for V2, V3 etc...
I was back in the UK a few weeks ago and tried to buy an Unno, after a few emails with the shop and couple from Unno themselves, it didn't go ahead, which probably worked out alright.
Will let the M2 come out and see where we land, happy with the Amflow ATM but my go for a local Forbidden next.
 
ozzybmx said:
15mm is a decent whack out. Watched this vid a few days ago thought they could both do with shorter cranks. Don't think he mentions crank length but the DJI motor lets us get away with shorter cranks without thinking much about it. The Amflow comes with 155mm, which felt right from day one... Who needs leverage when you have all that paaaah.
The bit that worried me was the 155 X 2 stance = 310mm, vs the old goto 175mm cranks at 350mm, that's about nearly 15% shorter stance, which I thought would feel weird coming into tech or jumps but it's fine.
A few new players that have a bit of geo tinkering for V2, V3 etc...
I was back in the UK a few weeks ago and tried to buy an Unno, after a few emails with the shop and couple from Unno themselves, it didn't go ahead, which probably worked out alright.
Will let the M2 come out and see where we land, happy with the Amflow ATM but my go for a local Forbidden next.
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Yeah, if avoiding pedal strikes is the goal, shorter cranks all the way! And even on lower power motors or analog bikes, worrying about shorter length cranks causing (muscle) power loss is based on a common misconception. The lab work that has been done on the subject indicates that power doesn't start to drop until one gets down to around 140mm. As real world examples, you see roadies and triathlon pros using shorter cranks now in the 155-165 range. They're doing it to allow them to get into a lower more aero position without closing their hip angle too much, but if it compromised their power or efficiency much, the tradeoff wouldn't be worthwhile. Similarly, velodrome sprint riders who are putting out just about the most power of any cyclists, regardless of discipline, use similarly short cranks.

Regarding the handling changes (or lack thereof) that you mentioned, yeah, I've pondered the same thing. I've only gotten down to 165mm so far, just due to availability, but am eager to try shorter. I have seen some "pro short crank" people point out that MX and motorcycle trials riders, who are doing stuff we can only dream of, all have a totally symmetrical stance, so there's no reason to believe reducing the offset on our stance will be disadvantageous.

I did see one guy who went down into the 150mm range say that he thought it helped some things, but hurt something too. He said it helped him reduce his "bad" cornering direction. Most people find that they turn better to the left or the right, and most often the good direction is the side opposite the forward foot, as the legs are sort of pre-pivoted in the direction of the turn, with the opposite being true for the bad direction. Shorter cranks help to balance this difference out. The only thing he said it hurt was he felt he couldn't get on the brakes as had with as much control. I'm guessing he was in the habit of really leaning into his front foot to resist the G forces, and with that foot moved back it wasn't as easy to get behind and push into the pedal. I'm inclined to think that if he worked on his technique a bit and made a really conscious effort to drop both his heels, that problem would go away.
 
TheKaiser said:
Regarding the handling changes (or lack thereof) that you mentioned, yeah, I've pondered the same thing. I've only gotten down to 165mm so far, just due to availability, but am eager to try shorter.
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FWIW, My Ibis Oso had 165mm cranks, I went to 160mm cranks on it, still the most pedal strike bike I have even owned, that's with a 200mm DH fork on the front. Which has slackened it out massively and lifter the BB.

The leverage ratio on the rear shock and sag makes the biggest difference for a low BB.
 
Yes, it's one the more frustrating aspect of many modern bikes that must be have been tested on wide flowy trails, many bikes have way too low BB to do technical climbing and rocky singletrack.

I've posted endlessly about this in my own bike thread so won't pollute this thread. But will say the reverse offset bushing trick does not work unless you get really lucky with an incredibly tight bushing setup or use some kind of glue.

I've ridden 140mm cranks for the past 2 years (full fat in turbo/emtb+) with a 34t chainring and 10-42t cassette, no issues at all and I think I prefer the feet closer together on descents. Don't think I'll ever go above 155mm again. Medium size man on L sized frames :ROFLMAO:
 
I can see pre sale available in the UK for Megamo Reason where it's stated to be available 15/04/2026. Will this be the new Avinox motor or is it just coincidentally going to be available around the time the new avinox is rumoured to be revealed? On the advert it specifically states: Engine DJI Avinox M1 -120Nm 1000W (Boost mode) / 105Nm 850W, so presumably it's the old one?

I'm hoping to get a gen 2 Avinox bike with around 160mm travel, high stack, and longish rear end for around £6-7k ideally before summer and don't know where to look!
 
lh270519 said:
I can see pre sale available in the UK for Megamo Reason where it's stated to be available 15/04/2026. Will this be the new Avinox motor or is it just coincidentally going to be available around the time the new avinox is rumoured to be revealed? On the advert it specifically states: Engine DJI Avinox M1 -120Nm 1000W (Boost mode) / 105Nm 850W, so presumably it's the old one?

I'm hoping to get a gen 2 Avinox bike with around 160mm travel, high stack, and longish rear end for around £6-7k ideally before summer and don't know where to look!
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The new motor has not even been given a release date and nobody is 100% sure what it’s even going to be , rumors are it’s heavier, lighter , bigger , smaller , more power , less power , bigger battery , smaller battery , these are just done if the rumors I’ve read in the last couple of weeks , the current motor is so good anyway I would not wait for something else that has not even been given a release date you could end up waiting forever as there is always rumors of better things coming round the corner lol
 
Watty said:
The new motor has not even been given a release date and nobody is 100% sure what it’s even going to be , rumors are it’s heavier, lighter , bigger , smaller , more power , less power , bigger battery , smaller battery , these are just done if the rumors I’ve read in the last couple of weeks , the current motor is so good anyway I would not wait for something else that has not even been given a release date you could end up waiting forever as there is always rumors of better things coming round the corner lol
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Generally I'd agree with this sentiment, but if it is truly just around the corner, then a month isn't such a big wait. Of course, that's in an ideal world where bike manufacturers and distributors have lined up their stock and shipping dates with the end of the news embargo (wishful thinking?).
 
Rob Rides EMTB said:
I’m around 191. It’s not too bad. But I’m on 35mm stem and would definitely go 50mm personally.

I’d personally also eek out a bit more wheelbase / front centre with a 38 170 fork. Will shorten reach slightly but add a bit more wheel out the front.

For a Large, it’s pretty big.
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Just checking for a friend ...
Did you ever do a Megamo Reason with a 38 170 fork ? Is it OK with Megamo to fit a 170 ?
How was it if you did ??
 
Petrex said:
Just checking for a friend ...
Did you ever do a Megamo Reason with a 38 170 fork ? Is it OK with Megamo to fit a 170 ?
How was it if you did ??
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The new just released bike has a 160 38mm fork in it , Megamo say you can fit a 170 no problem
 
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