Must have been on the bike used for the frame protection kit too, it has a circle on the stickers to go around the hole!
Hows everyone getting on with their New AMflow
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Must have been on the bike used for the frame protection kit too, it has a circle on the stickers to go around the hole!
That hole is probably a vent hole needed in manufacturing to get rid of air bubbles. Have the same on my YT and I asked them about it.
Now now, we're all made different but we're all beautiful just the same.
I bought the base Amflow very quickly after YT went bust and read, I believe, all existing reviews in German and English, which don't paint a super good picture regarding the enduro capability of the bike.
I changed to a Lyrik Ultimate and Schwalbe radials with Newmen alu wheels. After 2 solid rides, it is at least as capable as the Fuel Exe (coil), which is touted to punch above its weight class. And this is with the puny Fox performance shock. I wonder if the combination of the carbon wheels, handlebars and the heavy compression of the Fox factory stuff skewed the reviews a little. This is what mbr thinks
I changed to a Lyrik Ultimate and Schwalbe radials with Newmen alu wheels. After 2 solid rides, it is at least as capable as the Fuel Exe (coil), which is touted to punch above its weight class. And this is with the puny Fox performance shock. I wonder if the combination of the carbon wheels, handlebars and the heavy compression of the Fox factory stuff skewed the reviews a little. This is what mbr thinks
I think it also has to do with the amount of leverage and shock stroke. 150mm on a 55mm stroke makes i hard to get the rear feelings anything other than crap in either start or end of the stroke. I paired my amflow with a sd with HBO because of this. I don't think the bike is a good candidate for coil or dh shocks like vivid or x2. Stem needs to be swapped. I don't think carbon wheels is desired or needed on the bike.
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What size water bottle is everyone running on Pro model? The clearance looks tight.
E-MAD MALC
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The fork was quite spendy, I don't like the base 36 damper. The smarter thing to do would be sell it on ebay unused (250-300? as its 2026) and buy a zeb select for £300 or fox 36/38 perf elite £450/£500 from merlin. Instead went with an zeb ultimate £840 from winstanley.
Stem £40, wheel £250. Tyres I had already as I planned to use the combo on my old bike, dropper swapped over.
The dangers of demo'ing lots of bikes, the avinox was the motor I liked the most, the zeb was the most comfortable fork.
Overall I'm ok with how much I spent, the base bike was on cycle to work so in real terms it cost £3600
I'm a bit tentaive about upgrading the shock, with a fork you know what you are going to get from riding other bikes but not so much with the shock, base shock on the pl has little adjustment
so you'd recommend something like this?
RockShox Super Deluxe Select DebonAir+ 185x55 Trunnion Shock | eBay UK
Features - RockShox Super Deluxe Select DebonAir+ Trunnion. Shaft Eyelet: Trunnion. It’s sweet, it’s simple, it shreds. Tune in your desired ride feel and enduro on. Castled bottom out bumper reduces harsh bottom out, leaving extra room for the bold to go big.
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might be worth a punt as some of these cheap shocks are the cost of getting the original sent off and serviced properly
yes i just put one of these on. It's better than riding with the original for me. You can get it tuned if you want. I didn't see a big need for it.so you'd recommend something like this?
RockShox Super Deluxe Select DebonAir+ 185x55 Trunnion Shock | eBay UK
Features - RockShox Super Deluxe Select DebonAir+ Trunnion. Shaft Eyelet: Trunnion. It’s sweet, it’s simple, it shreds. Tune in your desired ride feel and enduro on. Castled bottom out bumper reduces harsh bottom out, leaving extra room for the bold to go big.www.ebay.co.uk
might be worth a punt as some of these cheap shocks are the cost of getting the original sent off and serviced properly
I have to confess that everytime i ride my amflow, i'm happy.
And i think about all those dream emtb, with an avinox system inside (don't forget the slim battery) !
Oso (Ibis), kenevoSL, prowlermacina (ktm), mondraker level, and so many bikes !
Even tuned at 90-100 NM and 600-750 Wh pike peak, it wouldn't matter.
Because an Emtb that rides (almost) like an accoustic mtb ... it's priceless.
And i think about all those dream emtb, with an avinox system inside (don't forget the slim battery) !
Oso (Ibis), kenevoSL, prowlermacina (ktm), mondraker level, and so many bikes !
Even tuned at 90-100 NM and 600-750 Wh pike peak, it wouldn't matter.
Because an Emtb that rides (almost) like an accoustic mtb ... it's priceless.
water bag on back with tools and tpu tube
How are you finding the Lyrik? I have one "spare" at the moment and deciding if it's worth putting it on or just upgrading to Zeb etc. If it's not too cheeky a question, what do you weigh?
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I'm really wondering how the after sales warranty and parts availability will be. It seems like it's near impossible to get reasonably priced replacement parts.
I spoke to Amflow USA directly yesterday and they said a crash replacement frame would cost is $6,200 for out of warranty. In-warranty crash replacement gets a 30% discount costing $4,340. To me this price is unacceptable, especially for a bike with somewhat dated geometry and so much flex in the first place.
On top of that, most of the outfits selling this at a discount (Ronhack, Loomenade, etc.) are non-authorized sellers selling grey market amflows so I would not count on getting timely warranty coverage, if any at all, ordering through them.
I still may get one since it's really the only ebike that interests me but it definitely makes the choice much harder as a heavier rider. I wish reviewers were more upfront about these issues.
I spoke to Amflow USA directly yesterday and they said a crash replacement frame would cost is $6,200 for out of warranty. In-warranty crash replacement gets a 30% discount costing $4,340. To me this price is unacceptable, especially for a bike with somewhat dated geometry and so much flex in the first place.
On top of that, most of the outfits selling this at a discount (Ronhack, Loomenade, etc.) are non-authorized sellers selling grey market amflows so I would not count on getting timely warranty coverage, if any at all, ordering through them.
I still may get one since it's really the only ebike that interests me but it definitely makes the choice much harder as a heavier rider. I wish reviewers were more upfront about these issues.
Amflow won't sell you a frame until you return yours to them, those are the terms of their warranty.
LOL the frame has a slight amount not "so much" and only if used for something it was not designed for. It is not an enduro, it is a trail bike.
You are not fast enough to flex the frame and notice
LOL really? It has current geometry, not dated. It is set up to do a wide range of riding and to fit a wide range of trails.
MemberLogic
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That's the issue - there aren't any alternatives besides buying a heavily marked up bespoke frame that costs as much as a new bike in the event of a crash (whether in warranty or out of warranty/grey market).
Having cracked frames before - having the option to replace for a reasonable price is very important.
Fair enough - I've watched plenty of reviews and having not ridden the bike all I can do is parrot some comments made about the frame flex. (perhaps unfairly)
While the geo numbers are current, I should have said "somewhat dated design" due to the trunnion AND clevis design.
It seemed like the consensus was that the frame is light, it's nothing special design-wise and really just to showcase the motor. The main point is that the crash replacement cost (even if you're under warranty) is completely out of line with the norms of the bike industry.
that is a common misconception. And it is straight up BS
Its a trailbike with trail geo. And the frame was designed to be a light aggressive trail bike to go with all that power.
Dude, they knocked it out of the park. You have power and range, and it handles excellent, and its quiet.
It took me 3 days to get used the bike, after that its just setting record after record. I ride rough rocky trails, and I ride long distance, not once have I felt the frame flexing, or once wished it had a different geo.
At first I was dead set on a mullet set up, but as I get used to it, I dont really need it, but may do it just for furn.
You got nothing to say then.
It was nothing like I expected and no review comes close to giving you an idea how it rides. And it took about a 100 miles before I bonded with it, and let it stretch its legs.
Also A tire change completely transformed how it corners, changing all the BS you read.
MemberLogic
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You're completely missing the main issue - their crash replacement program is dogshit and you're royally screwed if you crack the frame while riding.
I’ll say up front, I’ve never broken a frame so never needed a crash replacement warranty (I’m obviously just too slow!
), but if such a thing is important to you then it sounds like based on what you’ve been quoted that there are better alternatives with an Avinox motor.If not now, then in the next 6 months or the 2026 MY releases.
Try a specialized Levo gen 4 frame, and then cry
And you just have been trash talking the whole time, and doing a pretty piss poor job at trolling this bike.
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Me either, but ive seen first hand buddies who have broke popular companies frames, and not one got a free frame.
If you go out and wreck your bike, things do happen to good people sometimes. But it is your fault you rammed the front tire int the bank or rock or tree, and ripped the neck to shreds, and had to pack your bike out of the canyon
Tis guy is just crying the blues about anything he can think of, he does not own one. Its a fake account i bet
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MemberLogic
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I can’t tell if you’re being serious or just trying to argue for arguments sake. My whole post is about the exorbitant price of a replacement frame. That’s it.
What don’t I know? I got my info by messaging support directly on Amflowbikes.com asking about their crash replacement program. What does not having ridden the bike have to do with their crash replacement program?!
If anyone is being a troll it’s you. I guess nobody should care about a crash replacement program because “it’s their fault” and they don’t deserve any reasonable options to get back on the trails after dropping $7-$11k on a bike. Give me a break.
If they didn’t try to gouge already paying customers on a frame that likely cost them hundreds and had a decent crash replacement program I’d buy the bike in a heartbeat.
Have you priced a frame at Specialized gen 4 Sworks replacement frame
Many lesser companies have pricing very similar to Amflow with much less power
What is bad about Amflows CR?, they give you a discount similar to every other big company.
They just took care of a guy who is very happy after he crashed his bike and damaged his frame.
Many companies do not offer that much if you crash your bike.
Specialized is 35% and Amflow is 30% If that breaks you, you need something real to complain about.
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MemberLogic
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I would have to contact their support to find out what their cost is for frame replacement. I’m not really interested in any other e-bikes besides the Amflow at the moment though.
The pricing for crash replacement frame only. Amflow said they would be contacting me via email in 1-3 days with more detail on replacement cost for 1) frame only, 2) motor, 3) battery - both in warranty and out of warranty (retail).
I’m interested in this. What was Amflow’s resolution in this case?
