Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread

Last ride on the AMflow 800w battery was 16.7 miles, used Auto, trail, turbo and boost. Did not hang around. After the ride had 64% Battery remaining.
electricbogaloo said:
That's all just software. In theory the motor could be tuned for all kinds of assist and consumption settings. I doubt they didn't test this motor for max
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Mlmckay15 said:
Removable battery is a must for me, 2 day ride staying in huts in the mountains with no power, have to carry a second battery. 👌👌
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I can see your point on the above, if was going up in mountains this would be an option i would want also. Maybe Spec should make 2 x S Works models one like above with a Big down tube to store bits, big batt with long range easy to change, and another version like the new UNNO, on which handling, looks, Kgs etc is more important.
 
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Two frame options would make the bike more expensive. A non removable, thinner battery might save 0,5 to 1 kg overall weight but it might push the center of gravity a little higher. Plus the option to swap to a different battery would be harder for inexperienced riders/might void warranty so there either would be no 600 wh option or it would be way more expensive if you had to get it installed in a shop to avoid voiding warranty.

The Orbea Wild has a fixed battery and because it uses the Bosch system you can change the 750 wh battery for a 500 from the aftermarket. But for Specialized that would be different.

Specialized wanted to make everyone happy (if you want to spend the money) with that bike but this required a few compromises, mainly looks- and weightwise. They almost succeeded but they should have exchanged the SWAT-Storage for a leaner look and people who want less battery capacity should pay less.
 
electricbogaloo said:
Two frame options would make the bike more expensive. A non removable, thinner battery might save 0,5 to 1 kg overall weight but it might push the center of gravity a little higher. Plus the option to swap to a different battery would be harder for inexperienced riders/might void warranty so there either would be no 600 wh option or it would be way more expensive if you had to get it installed in a shop to avoid voiding warranty.

The Orbea Wild has a fixed battery and because it uses the Bosch system you can change the 750 wh battery for a 500 from the aftermarket. But for Specialized that would be different.

Specialized wanted to make everyone happy (if you want to spend the money) with that bike but this required a few compromises, mainly looks- and weightwise. They almost succeeded but they should have exchanged the SWAT-Storage for a leaner look and people who want less battery capacity should pay less.
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But at the moment this Gen 4 looks very challenging to say the least and rides and feels like a very heavy bike, looking at just how big the down tube is you would think its got a 1250-1500w Batt in it. Its no wonder they have tried to hide how poor it rides with the large rear shock.

If AMflow and others can design a light great looking bike, with a big battery and powerful motor that is very agile and rides so well why can’t Spec, it’s not like they have only just started building bikes.
 
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Its mainly because of the removable battery. With a fixed 800 Wh battery the frame and the battery itself aswell as the mounting stuff could be considerably lighter. Like 0,5 to 1 kg if not more. Add to that a slightly smaller battery, lighter tires and parts and you're close to the Amflow weight.
 
electricbogaloo said:
Its mainly because of the removable battery. With a fixed 800 Wh battery the frame and the battery itself aswell as the mounting stuff could be considerably lighter. Like 0,5 to 1 kg if not more. Add to that a slightly smaller battery, lighter tires and parts and you're close to the Amflow weight.
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not only battery, gen4 motor is above 3kg, which one of the heaviest motors out there.
 
Has anyone who is riding their Gen 4 cased (motocross bike term) their motor over steep drops? I have a few times now, hopefully it's not going to damage anything. I hope a lightweight skid plate comes out for them.

The motor hangs out farther in front of the cranks then the Gen3. I have never cased my Gen 3 in the whole time I have been riding it.
 
Myke said:
Has anyone who is riding their Gen 4 cased (motocross bike term) their motor over steep drops? I have a few times now, hopefully it's not going to damage anything. I hope a lightweight skid plate comes out for them.

The motor hangs out farther in front of the cranks then the Gen3. I have never cased my Gen 3 in the whole time I have been riding it.
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I cased mine gen3 few times and probably landed on flat to many times, the motor is fine, but one of bolt mounts failed. Might not be your case but probably should inspect for cracks on mounts if you casing too much.
When it finally cracks into two pieces there would be cricking noise when pressure is applied on cranks.

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There have been industry polls done in the past couple of years that asked eMTB owners whether they prefer a fixed or removable battery. Overwhelmingly people wanted removable. It adds a lot of girth. They should've added a question relating to the design and whether people were willing to accept the big down-tube. Personally I want the removable battery, but I admit the down-tube isn't as attractive as models with a fixed battery.
 
How does having an easily non removable battery save weight?
The battery still has to be incased in a somewhat protective covering right?
Going from a 36v system to a 52v version adds significant weight.
They could of matched the Amflow battery rated at 800w by using the same configuration as the 700w standard battery using better cells and then would of been able to keep the slimmer downtube.
So if they would of done that, plus offer up a decent extender battery that could plug in/out easily and you and upgrade the torque/ peak wattage/ class 1, 3 speed options I think they would of hit it out of the park.

Larger downtube, not interchangeable motors, not upgradeable unless the most expensive version, will keep me on my Gen 3 for the foreseeable future.
Hopefully in the next year I will run into someone with a gen 4 and an Amflow somewhere and hopefully ride together to see what I’m missing.
 
I would love to see motors that can be removed super easily - both for maintenance but also to swap batteries.

If you could remove a motor with 4 5mm hex bolts and bosh, you can swap out the battery - you get two birds with one stone. You can swap batteries in minutes without needing some sort of 'door' in the downtube.
 
Yeah my Gen 3 battery can be removed by removing 1 bolt and about 2 minutes.
Actually that is a lie, as I fabbed up a metal skid plate that mounts to the plastic motor housing/battery cover so I have to remove that first (4) screws, and then the main battery mount bolt.
Still take two minutes to do.
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Ride 2d@y said:
Pro tip - Think Landcruiser or Defender when you think it is ugly.
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The GEN 4 Levo reminded me of my 2.5 Tonne Range Rover with Air Suspension the way the rear shock soaked the bumps.

In comparison the Amflow reminds me of a Mclaren, supremely fast, great looking, very light and agile. You feel part of the Bike with the Amflow like you are at one riding and moving with the bike, its like it been hard wired into you.
 
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DuncanDoughnuts said:
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Post some pics when you get it. Won’t be getting the comp here for some time.
And I’m curious to see when it looks like in the sun. They all seem to look different outdoors.
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Will probably arrive in three weeks coming on the boat for free freight, S4 Comp satin champagne as well as range extender with cable. I plan on exchanging battery for the 600 Whr. Will let you know after I ride a few.
 
Citylad77 said:
The GEN 4 Levo reminded me of my 2.5 Tonne Range Rover with Air Suspension the way the rear shock soaked the bumps.

In comparison the Amflow reminds me of a Mclaren, supremely fast, great looking, very light and agile. You feel part of the Bike with the Amflow like you are at one riding and moving with the bike, its like it been hard wired into you.
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Nah that's just the frame flexing
 
I changed my chainring on my Dentist's version to a 36t. It has helped on not spinning out to get to 28mph on flat and decline but I feel it hurt on steep climbs not being able to spin up that quick. The trade off wasn't worth it, I will be going back to the stock 34t.

If I rode on flatter terrain I think the 36t would be worth it.
 
I did confirm with Specialized that in 28 mph mode that the power 20 mph and below is the same as in 20 mph mode.

So I'd say use 28 mph on trails that you will find yourself hitting 20 mph sometimes and don't want to feel the drop in power drop off so much at 20 mph.
 
Citylad77 said:
The GEN 4 Levo reminded me of my 2.5 Tonne Range Rover with Air Suspension the way the rear shock soaked the bumps.

In comparison the Amflow reminds me of a Mclaren, supremely fast, great looking, very light and agile. You feel part of the Bike with the Amflow like you are at one riding and moving with the bike, its like it been hard wired into you.
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Hitorogoshi said:
Nah that's just the frame flexing
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Can anyone confirm size of the rear post mounts?

Does the rear caliper have an adapter for a 200mm rotor or not?

and the same for the current 38 forks?
 
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