Unno Mith released with DJI motor, 800Wh battery

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RustyMTB said:
Unno guy made mention of this specifically & showed off his big bearings.
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I guess it's supported in two places, the bottom mounting and the pivot point to the shock mount.

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Think they had bearing issues with the previous model, hence the size upgrade. Old vs New :

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Zimmerframe said:
If you're hitting something there, you've already hit with the chainring and/or the back wheel ??

Yes, you could maybe clip it on a rock at some unfortunate angle, but that's the case with any rear triangle (though yes, there would be an increased risk for some freaky angled impact).



The triangle itself looks pretty rigid. You want a bit of flex for lateral suspension. The bearings look pretty big. Some people who were doing really big jumps felt the Pole flexed too much in that area - so .. maybe ?!?

Quite a few bikes take most of the force around the main bottom bearing with the top part of the triangle mainly setup to transfer forces to the shock - but without adding much, if any, lateral stability.
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Thank you Zimmerframe for your reaction,

rolling of an rock/drop is Comes quite close to hitting a chainring quite easy. Now having that linkage there even lower.. to me that does not seem so unfortunate to hit. But thats just my take, i rather hope it not hitting anything becouse i would love to see this bike to be as succesfull as it looks <3

The rear triangle itself doesnt look flexy and is indeed as you stated ridgid (i have not explained that well enough)
my question came from the 2 points where the rear triangle connects, They are vertically close to eachother ( like a Highpivot design also has This seems more like a LOW pivot ?, So when cornering / doing skids/ Landing a bit sideways from a whip etc.

that would also mean that a Highpivot flexxes more then a ''Normal pivot'' WIch i do not know.. for sure, Im not talking about Material flex :)

it for sure can work since it also works on dirtbikes swingarms and motorbikes etc etc..

Cheers!
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the two linkages set up as they are, the rear triangle will move more in a vertical/parallel direction as opposed to rotating around a bottom pivot and the back wheel moving forwards as if moves up.

Effectively a virtual high pivot design with an almost vertical rear axle path ??
 
The thing for me with this bike is that it isn’t a new bike. It’s an evolution of the previous bike and also the Ikki. They have ironed out some of the wrinkles of those bikes that riders didn’t like and added the best drive system that is available.

I’ve owned a couple of the forward geometry Mondrakers in the past which was a concept of Caesar Rojo that all other manufactures followed and is the reason we all ride long low and slack bike now. He designs bikes that push boundaries so I’m expecting it to be a bit different to anything else that’s is available, that’s is the attraction for me.
 
RustyMTB said:
It's still up on their channel...

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That’s a been up for some time. What’s being talked about is a video user type review in which the bike is tested. One Uk dealer says they spoke to UK Rep for Unno and no bikes have been given out yet for a user type video test.
Zimmerframe said:
Some Geo's ..

S1:

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S2 :

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S3 :

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Thanks for the post,
May i pls ask how the above sits size wise in S2 in comparison to the L size on an Amflow.
 
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Citylad77 said:
That’s a been up for some time
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That's a maybe true. Are you Italian? Fact is you laughed at the guy & it turns out he was being truthful. Doubling down isn't a good look, babs.
 
I thought the Unno Mith shaped looked familiar, then remembered the Mondraker Dune when I was looking at Bosch SX powered e-bikes a while back.

I think the DJI Avinox system has ushered in the end of the ‘light EMTB’ concept, where you no longer have to compromise on the power and battery size, even if they always were good enough for you.

Getting my ailing Levo SL fixed inside 30 mins at the local bike shop yesterday did remind me that support is still just as important as the actual bike for me though, and I wonder how easy it would be to get an Unno (or an Amflow for that matter) fixed once it’s out of warranty like my nearly 5 year old Specialized… 🤔
 


Tooks said:
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Getting my ailing Levo SL fixed inside 30 mins at the local bike shop yesterday did remind me that support is still just as important as the actual bike for me though, and I wonder how easy it would be to get an Unno (or an Amflow for that matter) fixed once it’s out of warranty like my nearly 5 year old Specialized… 🤔
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I know what you mean, I have had substantial parts replaced on my S works FOC when out of warranty. Not that I have had any issues with my AMflow but so far have been impressed with the way DJI, AMflow have supported things that have gone wrong on friends bikes though a local dealer here in UK. The way I see it, life time warranty on Frame, Fox have been superb in support based on my experience, gears that’s just cassette and chain replacement. So in the absence of any genuine negative reviews happy to take a chance on this new bike, based on its looks my experience with the DJI motor and battery, along with the designer’s experience. Just hope the S2 fits.
 
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I hope any review of the DJI systems explain some way that we can have a bash ring on these bikes.
Bashing the chain ring is a really common occurrence where I ride.
This will add a bit of weight as well, effectively closing up the 1 lb advantage the DJI motor system has over the Bosch.
I think Bosch should give the race treatment to all of their Gen 5 motors to drop a bit of weight and up the power, effectively closing up the performance difference to the DJI.
 
Suns_PSD said:
I hope any review of the DJI systems explain some way that we can have a bash ring on these bikes.
Bashing the chain ring is a really common occurrence where I ride.
This will add a bit of weight as well, effectively closing up the 1 lb advantage the DJI motor system has over the Bosch.
I think Bosch should give the race treatment to all of their Gen 5 motors to drop a bit of weight and up the power, effectively closing up the performance difference to the DJI.
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Yes they might but at which expense? In their current design they already replace an alloy/iron part with a magnesium or nylon one (?). No one knows the longevity impact nor what they would have to compromise by doing that.

I am sure they could put all crappy plastic/nylon part but I would wonder then if they would not just end dead after warranty expired.
For batteries they can do better, and with current breakthrough even on Lithium cell we could get something great pretty soon too.
 
Pretty sure the Gen 4 Race Bosch motor had Ti shafts to reduce its weight about 150 grams or so.

I feel if Bosch did that and because the Bosch naturally has a built-in bash guard (since the motor hangs lower than the chainring and adding a bash guard to the DJI should add about 150 grams and some cost), combined with the upcoming power upgrade, they have a very competitive product. I certainly know which motor I'd rather try to get serviced in the USA!

I'm quite certain that all of the new batteries are using the exact same cell architecture aka the same batteries. Any weight difference is more about the casing they are utilizing.
 
RustyMTB said:
It's still up on their channel...

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I doubt you’d find any critical words in this video. That is one of Cesar rojo’s best friends and the owner of one of the main retailers of Unno bikes.

The bike is absolutely stunning imo. I am also curious about the handling. There is always a ying and a yang when it comes to CEO’s that are badass riders (Cesar rojo, Leo) as they may design their bikes according to their very unique riding styles/preferences, which may or may not fit the average Joe skill set.

On the other hand you could argue that companies like specialized making vanilla bikes that need to work for all riders may miss the mark for badass riders.

I guess we will have to wait and see…
 
Demiurge said:
I doubt you’d find any critical words in this video. That is one of Cesar rojo’s best friends and the owner of one of the main retailers of Unno bikes.

The bike is absolutely stunning imo. I am also curious about the handling. There is always a ying and a yang when it comes to CEO’s that are badass riders (Cesar rojo, Leo) as they may design their bikes according to their very unique riding styles/preferences, which may or may not fit the average Joe skill set.

On the other hand you could argue that companies like specialized making vanilla bikes that need to work for all riders may miss the mark for badass riders.

I guess we will have to wait and see…
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I’d agree with that. Sadly the way Santa Cruz has gone now since they got bought out.
 
Demiurge said:
On the other hand you could argue that companies like specialized making vanilla bikes that need to work for all riders may miss the mark for badass riders.
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I agree with everything you said, and also realize that the vast majority of riders (90%- 99%) who have to buy our own bikes are closer to a vanilla rider (me included) than a badass/top 1% rider, however badass of a rider we think we are 😂

Ultimately large manufacturers with tons of overhead need to make what best serves the large share of the market in order to stay alive in these economic conditions that have been worsening over the past several years. Smaller manufacturers with less inventory, staffing, and general overhead can be more specific with the market they are targeting and Unno is a great example of that with their beautiful design-forward frames.
 
Indeed. That’s why I think the community as large (vanilla riders, including me) is kinda missing an important lesson from the motocross world, who has been in this business for decades…

We all focus on getting the latest and greatest suspension update, overlooking the fact that all suspension manufacturers are forced to make vanilla tunes for vanilla suspension designes. When we would be better served by getting custom tuning on our dampers to match weight, terrain and style.

Anyway I’m digressing from the unno Mith theme 😅. I am really looking forward to see what testers like rob think of it, specially compared to its natural competitors such as the bullit or Crestline.
 
Biano44 said:
No concrete evidence, just hearsay on Alex’s part.
Plus he’s been anti DJI from the start and 100% behind Bosch.
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I agree partly but he was singing the praises of the new DJI Unno powered bike on Friday and actively encouraging people to buy it, he often gets things tight, time will tell.
 
There's so much discussion about power / speed limits but to me the most interesting part of DJI-based bikes is the battery density / weight. What's special about the Unno to me isn't whether it's 85Nm or 120 , class 2 or 3 I could care less 85Nm class 2 is enough. For me it's getting a full-on Enduro bike, spec'ed like an enduro bike, with 800Wh and under 47lbs...
 
ah1 said:
There's so much discussion about power / speed limits but to me the most interesting part of DJI-based bikes is the battery density / weight. What's special about the Unno to me isn't whether it's 85Nm or 120 , class 2 or 3 I could care less 85Nm class 2 is enough. For me it's getting a full-on Enduro bike, spec'ed like an enduro bike, with 800Wh and under 47lbs...
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With a slim downtube and a small motor, it does not look pregnant. It still has an 800wh battery. It just looks good—like an analogue bike would!

I also think it is nice with a 30s boost button though, Normally I ride a lower setting anyway, but just boosting up something now and then sounds fun!
 
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