Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...

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I was going to post this in an Amflow thread ... but it feels from the comments like everyone here is really closet Amflow, so I'll put it here .. :oops:

Plus, I had to actually search for the thread because no ones said anything interesting - so it seems like reasonable punishment 🙃

 
So if these industry dudes conclude that Bosch is 'second best in the market" the new G4 will have to battle for silver or bronze? Still in top 3 at least.
 
Ride 2d@y said:
So if these industry dudes conclude that Bosch is 'second best in the market" the new G4 will have to battle for silver or bronze? Still in top 3 at least.
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There is undoubtedly just one "best bike" on the market and easy to pick out.
The one the buyer loves and wouldn't change for anything on the planet even though he/her got more than enough bitcoins.
 
Ride 2d@y said:
So if these industry dudes conclude that Bosch is 'second best in the market" the new G4 will have to battle for silver or bronze? Still in top 3 at least.
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There’s not really a ‘best bike in the market’, just the best bike for you, which is likely the one you’ve already got. 😀😏
 
Regarding gen3 discounts, this looks quite nice, not bad price for a PRO:

As for the Gen4 - I visited local Spesh service center in my city and they told me:
Gen4 - will be available in April
Will have new Brose motor
Motor doesn't have belt

I don't know what to think about it, but they looked pretty convicing.

Anyway, I was tired of waiting and I boutht Strive:on ;). Will wait till next year for first "beta users" of new Levo to work out potential issues and then we will see.
 
Ok price but the long gear cable loop?
Looks like the same way to remove battery as Specialized Tero and if you are not fast enough to catch the battery it will fall to the ground.
For some april is just around the corner.
 
AussieRuss said:
Can you show me adverts for it last year because everything I can find says that the 2025 trek rail was released this month
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Again off topic, but since there is still no Levo news - TREK RAIL+ 2025 was unveiled in September 2024 (published Sept 30): Trek's new Rail+ starts at £6,000, gets a full-size 800Wh battery and a travel boost to 160mm - MBR

It has been on TREK Euro websites since at least November '24, and limited quantities of RAIL+ bikes (certain models and sizes) have been available from Euro dealers since ~December '24. However, if you search from AUS or US you will not see TREK Euro websites without forcing it by writing address Bikes - Trek Bikes - Trek Bikes (DE), etc.
 
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Ribinrobin said:
cant wait for the gen 4 to be like the vala, everyone hates it at launch, complains then few months later its best bike ever
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current gen3 levo is almost the same bike. What the point? It has similar geo, similar power numbers, similar range, why the hell anyone upgrade their levo to something like vala? And consider its bad display and lack of metrics for garmin.

I expect new levo to be something another level, so I could have new experience with it, not slightly better here and there
 
linkqwd said:
current gen3 levo is almost the same bike. What the point? It has similar geo, similar power numbers, similar range, why the hell anyone upgrade their levo to something like vala? And consider its bad display and lack of metrics for garmin.

I expect new levo to be something another level, so I could have new experience with it, not slightly better here and there
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I think it’s that expectation that has led to these delays. It’s tough to bring something out that is truly groundbreaking and they have a lot to live up to.
 
linkqwd said:
current gen3 levo is almost the same bike. What the point? It has similar geo, similar power numbers, similar range, why the hell anyone upgrade their levo to something like vala? And consider its bad display and lack of metrics for garmin.

I expect new levo to be something another level, so I could have new experience with it, not slightly better here and there
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Another level in what regards ?
Same weight (if not a bit heavier)
same travel
same geo
Better suspension tune with the Genie shock
more power (but similar to bosch gen5 after the update and Dji)
Good range with the bigger battery (a bit more than Bosch 800w)
Still a small screen (compared to Dji and upcoming Bosch screen)
Same look as the SL but with a BIG downtube

No doubt it will be a great option, but not sure Another level
 
gbcoke said:
Another level in what regards ?
Same weight (if not a bit heavier)
same travel
same geo
Better suspension tune with the Genie shock
more power (but similar to bosch gen5 after the update and Dji)
Good range with the bigger battery (a bit more than Bosch 800w)
Still a small screen (compared to Dji and upcoming Bosch screen)
Same look as the SL but with a BIG downtube

No doubt it will be a great option, but not sure Another level
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Which parts of this list are fact and which parts are speculation?

So I can keep up, that is.
 
linkqwd said:
current gen3 levo is almost the same bike. What the point? It has similar geo, similar power numbers, similar range, why the hell anyone upgrade their levo to something like vala? And consider its bad display and lack of metrics for garmin.

I expect new levo to be something another level, so I could have new experience with it, not slightly better here and there
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New Levo is not on another level, it’s comparable to what’s already been released by other companies. Some people just can’t stomach buying poser brands like the Specialed, Trek and Amflow.
 
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gbcoke said:
Another level in what regards ?
Same weight (if not a bit heavier)
same travel
same geo
Better suspension tune with the Genie shock
more power (but similar to bosch gen5 after the update and Dji)
Good range with the bigger battery (a bit more than Bosch 800w)
Still a small screen (compared to Dji and upcoming Bosch screen)
Same look as the SL but with a BIG downtube

No doubt it will be a great option, but not sure Another level
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I doubt too that gen4 will be another level at any area, so I'm ready to wait for gen5 with my current gen3.

But answering your question, it doesn't matter for me. If I'm willing to pay astronomical amount of money for a bike then I want to have something significant, something that make the difference, not 500g lighter and 10nm more torque, etc.

Good example (which I hate to see here) is Amflow(dji motor system), thats really something new, a piece of tech that I would upgrade for.
 
linkqwd said:
I doubt too that gen4 will be another level at any area, so I'm ready to wait for gen5 with my current gen3.

But answering your question, it doesn't matter for me. If I'm willing to pay astronomical amount of money for a bike then I want to have something significant, something that make the difference, not 500g lighter and 10nm more torque, etc.

Good example (which I hate to see here) is Amflow(dji motor system), thats really something new, a piece of tech that I would upgrade for.
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Agreed, thought they will dare more with the design,offer more travel and have a lighter motor and battery than other players.
To be fair though, what can they do better than a multi billion $$ Chinese tech giant ??
 
gbcoke said:
Agreed, thought they will dare more with the design,offer more travel and have a lighter motor and battery than other players.
To be fair though, what can they do better than a multi billion $$ Chinese tech giant ??
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well, thats an interesting question :)
I think spesh wont be able to compete with DJI for some time in terms of electronics, and considering that for me a good selling point could be some modular battery system, so one day I could go ride with 300-400wh battery like an SL bike, and another day with 800wh battery as full fat bike.
I dont like range extenders since there is no room for decent water bottle, and thats a deal breaker for me, I dont ride with backpacks. I could use some fidlock mounts on top tube but it just doesn't feel right.
 
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