sluette
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Which would be great news anyway. Except of the TREK, all the others are on my list for a new eBike in ´25...
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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sluette
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As an absolute Specialized fan, it’s not easy for me to look for alternatives, but I do not want to support the current pricing policy. And the thought of buying a G3 in 2025 with the development status of 2022 doesn’t makes me happy. That’s why I’m currently researching Bosch or Shimano powered bikes. At the moment, the Moterra SL, Spectral CFR, and Wild Team are at the top of my list…
surfshiny
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Please let us know what you land on, I’m in the same predicament! Full power, not SL for me. MX/mullet setup only. Considering SC Heckler, Moterra. Haven’t looked at Wild.
Wild is 29er only unless the 2025 model changes this
electricbogaloo
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I also didn't want to go the specialized route but its the only silent and relatively lightweight option for a full power ebike. I can't stand the rattle of the other motors. Plus the deals on current specialized models make them acceptable. Got my levo base carbon 2023 which I upgraded to somwhere between comp and pro model below 4500€ with all upgrades.
electricbogaloo
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Did you check it by moving the crank arms back and forth without a chain? You can also do it with the chain but might to have to roll the bike slowly forward. The current bosch also doesn't rattle equally in all frames but with this test you'll hear the freehub clicking.
etoni
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Moterra sl have a super low bb 33cm ..earth kiss machine. I stay at turbo levo, best motor feeling and best overal bike!!!
Try to consider DJI new Amflow.
electricbogaloo
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Well according to some reviews it rattles aswell plus I need the removable battery. If you take that into account the levo carbon isn't even that much heavier than the amflow. 1-2kg max. with the same parts I'm guessing. And I don't need the power as I'm a rather light rider.
You can charge it to 75% in 1.5 hours though. That has to mitigate that to some extent surely.
The mainstream / reasonable cost options as I see it:
bosch - rattles + freewheel ratchet sounds
shimano - won't allow motor repairs, will become a problem post warranty. Also heard of rattles.
specialized - lots of motor failures (5 personally)
DJI - unproven yet but looks very promising. Would like ebike motor centre's view on this one.
I'm in the market for a 2nd bike, I guess I'm leaning towards whatever the new specialized is, but it would have to be significantly different to the existing levo I already have for it to make sense to me.
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Who in the world doesn't need more power?
Rando_12345
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I would happily gamble on the DJI motor, but have some doubts on the AMflow, it's a pretty light frame so possibly more of a long legged trail bike than a proper all mountain or mini Enduro bike despite the good geo.
But mostly I have seen multiple comments from reputable suspension professionals saying the trunnion shock with a clevis devis is a recipe for blown shocks.
Would love one but it would probably be as a second bike (which I don't have space for). Now to convince my wife her city bike needs replacing with a 6k mountain bike... Not hapenning
But mostly I have seen multiple comments from reputable suspension professionals saying the trunnion shock with a clevis devis is a recipe for blown shocks.
Would love one but it would probably be as a second bike (which I don't have space for). Now to convince my wife her city bike needs replacing with a 6k mountain bike... Not hapenning
electricbogaloo
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Yeah, I'd rather wait for a frame with the motor that has more travel. The 150 mm of the levo with the stock link is just barely enough for me and I'll switch to a cascade link over the winter I think.
And yeah fast chargin is nice but I mostly travel with a campervan and with a non removable battery I'd need to get a new bike rack, a solution for charging it when it rains (I have a converter with solar panels). And I mostly charge it while driving so I'd need to pull long cables to the back. Or I'm chargin in a restauran which would also not possible with non removable battery. Plus I can put the levo in the shed when its cold/hot and store the battery always at optimal temps.
It mainly comes down to rider weight how much assistance you need. I only weigh around 70 kg with riding gear and the power of even the e8000 was more than enough for me, even on steep alpine terrain. If I would weigh 20 kg more it would be a different story. Fitness doesn't have that much of an influence on this if we are not talking about extremes.
Yeah, I fear the reliability problems of the Brose but as I'm no that heavy and never tune/use the motor at peak power I hope it will not be as unreliable compared to heavier riders that need to ride with more assistance. I just like a silent bike.
And yeah fast chargin is nice but I mostly travel with a campervan and with a non removable battery I'd need to get a new bike rack, a solution for charging it when it rains (I have a converter with solar panels). And I mostly charge it while driving so I'd need to pull long cables to the back. Or I'm chargin in a restauran which would also not possible with non removable battery. Plus I can put the levo in the shed when its cold/hot and store the battery always at optimal temps.
Who in the world doesn't need more power?
It mainly comes down to rider weight how much assistance you need. I only weigh around 70 kg with riding gear and the power of even the e8000 was more than enough for me, even on steep alpine terrain. If I would weigh 20 kg more it would be a different story. Fitness doesn't have that much of an influence on this if we are not talking about extremes.
Don't forget about the Pivot LT, that will be switching from Shimano to Bosch like the Shuttle AM.
sluette
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Sorry guys, it wasn’t my intention but it seems we are drifting from the main topic.
singletrackminded
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Did I read somewhere in this forum where a European bike show is coming up, on or about Sept. 30. and a possible announcement of the Levo Gen 4 bike? Any new rumors welcome.
xtraman122
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Not sure about a show, but yes, the original expected announcement for the gen 4 Levo was indeed the 30th. Dealers all got an invite to a “special event” that is supposed to be the launch announcement. Some people now say it’ll be later, but that might just mean actual deliveries and the announcement may still come Monday.
sluette
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As the delivery is postponed to March 25 (referenced to different sources), I did not expect the announcement next Monday. (Just my thoughts)
sethimus
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what do you people don‘t get when someone posts: spring 2025?
then and not earlier, geez
Maybe it's time to wait for the actual launch of new Levo instead of all the wild speculation?
Orbea Wild ?
That's the other thread...
surfshiny
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I’m based in Zurich, shall I drive over to Cham and do some recon through the windows of the Turbo-Unit? 
Behind the scenes of the Specialized Turbo Unit – The ebike development centre that doesn’t sleep
Behind the scenes of the Specialized Turbo Unit – The ebike development centre that doesn’t sleep
sluette
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Got the same info, postponed to March 25. There was a retailer summit the past week.
You were to fast replying, my bad
I have a feeling that the launch date was intended to be now, but they got a big L with the new DJI stuff. Lets hope waiting another half a year makes the bike way better
Same thing happened with the Levo SL, it was postponed because they realised they weren’t going to be competitive with a 35nm motor when everyone else was 50-60nm. I’m guessing if it is postponed it’s to do with battery tech, probably trying to come up with a lighter battery.You were to fast replying, my bad
I have a feeling that the launch date was intended to be now, but they got a big L with the new DJI stuff. Lets hope waiting another half a year makes the bike way better
sluette
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will be an interesting afternoon:
6 launches today! Could be anything: bikes, motors, Bottlecages, brakepads, underwear...
6 launches today! Could be anything: bikes, motors, Bottlecages, brakepads, underwear...
Bosch Gen 5 launches - expect Focus, Pivot, Norco, Crestline (as they have teased something today) and others
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