Nasty Nick
Well-known member
Can't assume the 2022 will have the same issues, but the amount of ingress is worrisome to me. I'd consider seeling the cable passthroughs with some non hardening rtv and treating all the connectors with acf50.
Reign E+ 2022
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Ordinary Human Male
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I suspect it's your technique, or lack thereof.
BB drop, even in the low position, is higher than all the similar EMTBs in this category that I have my eye on. In fact, in the low position, it's 36mm higher than my enduro analogue which I pedal everywhere.
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Sospecho que es tu técnica, o falta de ella.
La caída de BB, incluso en la posición baja, es más alta que todas las EMTB similares en esta categoría que tengo en la mira. De hecho, en la posición baja, es 36 mm más alto que mi análogo de enduro que pedaleo en todas partes.
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I think you're wrong, I had another giant trance e + X and it was the same
Sospecho que es tu técnica, o falta de ella.
La caída de BB, incluso en la posición baja, es más alta que todas las EMTB similares en esta categoría que tengo en la mira. De hecho, en la posición baja, es 36 mm más alto que mi análogo de enduro que pedaleo en todas partes.
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I think you're wrong, I had another giant trance e + X and it was the same
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Mr Dog
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I just got a confirmation of shipment for my Reign E+1 625wh. Got a pretty outstanding deal with 10% discount. Looking forward to finding out if mine suffers from water ingress issues and how is measures up to the Trek Rail.
I also need to break the news to my wife at some point before it arrives
I also need to break the news to my wife at some point before it arrives
Polaris
Active member
Wow, how did you get discount! And what country you from. Hope you enjoy budI just got a confirmation of shipment for my Reign E+1 625wh. Got a pretty outstanding deal with 10% discount. Looking forward to finding out if mine suffers from water ingress issues and how is measures up to the Trek Rail.
I also need to break the news to my wife at some point before it arrives
What's the BB height on the Reign E+? My tape is not that accurate, measuring around 346mm in high position (336mm in low).
You're right that technique can make you avoid most of the strikes, however in the low position I had to be more careful in certain sections of my local trails where I was just flying with my regular Reign 29 with a 346mm BB, which is now not a problem anymore in the high setting.
1cm can make a huge difference regarding pedal strikes.
Mr Dog
Member
Thanks, I hope I enjoy it too. After reading some of the recent posts I am not as certain as when I ordered it
If it is a sensitive piece of equipment that requires a careful owner then it just found the wrong home.
Im in Switzerland but purchased the bike from an Austrian store. They had it in stock and have a 10% discount offer on all bikes. I thought it was a bit of a scam but today it has been dispatched
Don’t you need to pay import fees?Thanks, I hope I enjoy it too. After reading some of the recent posts I am not as certain as when I ordered it
If it is a sensitive piece of equipment that requires a careful owner then it just found the wrong home.
Im in Switzerland but purchased the bike from an Austrian store. They had it in stock and have a 10% discount offer on all bikes. I thought it was a bit of a scam but today it has been dispatched
Polaris
Active member
I got mine through the cycle to work scheme so I guess i will save 20% when it’s paid upWhen I bought mine, a few weeks ago, in Germany, i also got 10% discount
Mr Dog
Member
No, they have a Swiss website and charge Swiss VAT at point of sale. No import fees or customs charges to pay. Same way that I purchased my Trek
Ordinary Human Male
New Member
This website is great - I've chucked in the figures for the latest E Trance and Reign but you can play around with it.
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To the lucky ones that have already received their new Reign E+… Come on guys, stop keeping everything to yourself.
Comments... good stuff, bad stuff, climbing, cornering, descending, suspension, weight, wheelies, bunny hops, jumps, anything?
Hello,
I went from a reign E+1 2020 to a 2022 model.
I ride on and around 'terres noires' of Provence.
My level is just average.
But i can say that 2022 reign E+ is an absolute blast, a major upshift (and not 'only' an overhaul from the old model).
Geo is incredibly good, from my point of view (2022 size M : reach from size M of 2020, and toptube from size S of 2020).
Motor is even better, especially on steep rocky uphill.
Going downhill is also better : the bike is stable and maneuverable (flipchip on 'high', cause i didnt like the bike on 'low' ).
About combination of smaller motor and 29er frontwheel = no more hits, both up or downhill (bike doesnt hit rocks anymore, everywhere the 2020 model did).
Range feels about the same, may be better (i ride on smartassist fulltime, best option for me around there).
My feeling is that Giant achieved a masterpiece of EMTB. And despite the 'industrial' and bulky look from diagonal tube, i feel like it's lighter than my 2020 E+1 (despite the 2022 being heavier).
Initially, i bought it because all RM for 2022 were already sold to shop (and my local LBS being unable to get one).
After 500 km on my E+1 2022, i'm no longer sure that i will sell it and try to grab a RM powerplay 2023.
I dont say my giant is better. But for my skill level and considering that the limiting factor is actually me, and not the bike : i may keep it way longer than initially planned.
And again : the giant version of the pw-x3 is a true monster. I've read it was louder, but it's not the case for me. It's more quiet, and delivers much more assist in extreme situations / when needed.
The bike isnt perfect. But for my skill level and the paths i ride, it is. And i feel like i'm far from reaching half of its limits !
And now : time for ride !
Would you select it over a trek rail if all spec was equal?
Hello,
I can't reply to the question, because my experience with trek Ebikes is very poor.
I understand!
My options right now is Reign E+, Rail and Nduro. Best would be to test them all but I have no one of them to test anywhere close 
. Rail is the secure card but Reign is looking very good for the price. Nduro is a wild card. Amazing specs for the price. Dropper insert length and weight is my two reservations on Nduro.I understand!
Hello,
Nduro looks promising, both in spec and price. The frame looks ugly to me. But it doesnt really count, since i suspect the bike to be very similar to the reign, in terms of overall quality / ride (or even better, who knows ?)
If i had to choose between Rail and Nduro, i would go for the Nduro. I guess i'm more than yamaha biased ...
But i won't confess ! Even if i more than often dream of KTM, SantaC. or even Pole adopting YAM instead of ... Ahem ! 
Insert length for the Nduro is only 210mm. My current bike has 220 (in practice it's more). Oneup dropper has the shortest insert length at 267mm (180mm). My fear is that the dropper would be to high in the low position.Hello,
Nduro looks promising, both in spec and price. The frame looks ugly to me. But it doesnt really count, since i suspect the bike to be very similar to the reign, in terms of overall quality / ride (or even better, who knows ?)
If i had to choose between Rail and Nduro, i would go for the Nduro. I guess i'm more than yamaha biased ...
Giant reign E+ has no official insert length on the page but it looks like it could be slammed all the way in.
Mr Dog
Member
I will have both when my Reign arrives so I will be able to give you a good comparison in the not too distant future. In terms of spec though, the Trek cant touch the Giant at the same price point. The Bosch motor is awesome though so the Yamaha has a lot to live up to. Also have a much lower entry point into the 750wh battery if that is a factor. I went with the 625 because I was impatient. I am hoping the range is at least as good on the Giant as I get decent range with the Trek but would not want it to be any less.
Will be interesting to hear! If the Trek just was better priced I would get it. Been keeping an eye out for a used or new with discount Trek Rail 5. Immediately remove all crap parts and upgrade. Would cost around 2000 euro.
Ordinary Human Male
New Member
They are at opposite ends of the same category.
It sounds like you need to have a think about where you ride, how you ride and what you are really looking for out of an EMTB.
Comparing specs or trying to find the best bike without trying to understand their handling characteristics seems like a good way to make a bad choice. Though, if you mostly ride sitting down through blue and green graded trails, it probably doesn't matter what you buy - in which case I'd suggest the cheapest bike with a motor.
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Este sitio web es genial: he incluido las cifras del último E Trance y Reign, pero puedes jugar con él.
[URL unfurl = "true"] Geometry Geeks xe-pro-29-2021-m-hola, trance-gigante-xe-pro-29-2021-l-lo / [/ URL]
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Amazing page, thanks
Este sitio web es genial: he incluido las cifras del último E Trance y Reign, pero puedes jugar con él.
[URL unfurl = "true"] Geometry Geeks xe-pro-29-2021-m-hola, trance-gigante-xe-pro-29-2021-l-lo / [/ URL]
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Amazing page, thanks
Tim gosnold
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Ordered mine yesterday, should be turning up Friday. They are going as soon as they hit the website.
Doug Stampfer
Well-known member
Huh??? How do you come to that opinion?
trailaddict
Active member
Maybe you gonna need a second controler for it? The new RideControl GO supports two controllers. In a Video Giant explained you can customize the functions via the RideControl App.
Or you just control the light directly if it has control buttons. Since a while the light is turned on by default when you power on the bike, and thus you could turn it off or set power modes on the light itself?
I've looked in the E-MTB User Guide v12 that came with the new Reign but the new controler is not mentioned. My advice is to reach out to yur Giant Dealer or the Giant Support to get a valid answer. Please share if you do so.
Reign and Rail is not on opposite side of the enduro category. Rail is in the middle and Reign is more toward the DH range. Opposite would be something like a Radon Render.
To truly understand their handling characteristics you need to ride them yourself (an option I don't have). Rail is usually test winner the last few years and a proven design. Reign is a new untested design that has not yet been in a group test. It might be to heavy or sluggish. We don't know. You need to do back-to-back testing to really notice stuff like that. It's not a bad bike. But it might not stand out like some other ones.
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Rail and Reign are very different bikes. If you take the motor out of the equation and just look at the geometry, design and components you can see that, and if you where looking at a normal bike they wouldn’t be ones you would compare.
the Reign is a full on Enduro bike, which is significantly longer, slacker, steeper etc, and is a mullet.
the trail is a longer travel trail bike by design that in some specifications nudges into enduro territory.
that’s not to say you can compare or consider the two bikes as options, but they are not like for like comparisons.
If you are into full on enduro riding, DH etc the reign is aimed at that, if you are more into trail riding the Rail is likely more suited.
the Reign is a full on Enduro bike, which is significantly longer, slacker, steeper etc, and is a mullet.
the trail is a longer travel trail bike by design that in some specifications nudges into enduro territory.
that’s not to say you can compare or consider the two bikes as options, but they are not like for like comparisons.
If you are into full on enduro riding, DH etc the reign is aimed at that, if you are more into trail riding the Rail is likely more suited.
We are constantly changing what the categories mean. In 2019 it was an Enduro bike. 2022 it's called a trail bike. 2025 it's a down country
.And Yes, Reign is the more up to date "modern" enduro bike.
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