Should ebikes be 10 speed ?

[MB1]

EX1 8 speed on mine (10 on previous emtb), appears to be fine and problem free. There is the odd occasion when I feel I could use a gear in between, but being honest it’s rare. Expensive, but to date it’s been bomb proof. Would expect for me, between 8 and 10 would be optimal.

 

[Gary]

That would be 9.

I'll accept beer as payment for all consultation work

 

[MB1]

?

 

[DrStupid]

Does anybody actually find 10 speed chains last longer? I have not.

Dont mistake me, I like my 10 speed, but I like it becuase it continues to work reasonably well even when conditions are less than perfect, and parts are generally less costly. I do not find that 10s chains last any longer.

 

[1oldfart]

just the price of 10 vs 12 cassette = no brainer for me and also i like the 10S 11-42 cassette nice steps, no hole, and usually no need for triple shift. On road with wind i can see the use of more options but for my fat and mountain bike i like gears that are not that close.

 

[Mini si]

just the price of 10 vs 12 cassette = no brainer for me

So this is just me being lazy but what’s the price difference in your experience (or anyone else who’s made the same change) between a new 12 speed cassette and chain vs 10 speed shifter, mech, chain and cassette?
Presumably it’s a bigger out lay to swap everything over in the first place then cheaper there after when just replacing chains/cassettes?
Regarding the chain, the main thing I seem to have read is not necessarily a longer life but less prone to snapping, is that people’s experience or have I misunderstood?

 

[>moto<]

I must be made different, I use the low gears more on my eBike. Whenever I'm out riding a I see a hill that looks mildly do-able I'll have a crack at it. It's the fun of having an eBike.

 

[DrStupid]

I must be made different, I use the low gears more on my eBike. Whenever I'm out riding a I see a hill that looks mildly do-able I'll have a crack at it. It's the fun of having an eBike.

There are a few. My bikes are set up to average 12 mph and climb like goats. Super lite trials enduro.

 

[Olof Bike Adventures]

12 gears and max 15.5 mph, that is 1.3 mph between the gears. I'd go for reliability over more gears on a full power eMTB.

 

[Mini si]

There are a few. My bikes are set up to average 12 mph and climb like goats. Super lite trials enduro.

I think in the right hands my bike would climb like a goat, it’s me who’s got some work to do!! ?
I went from a hard tail to my Cube Stereo 160 about 8 months ago and even now when I go out I can’t believe where it will go!! I’m sure (if it wasn’t for me) there would be no stopping it!!

 

[1oldfart]

I think in the right hands my bike would climb like a goat, it’s me who’s got some work to do!! ?
I went from a hard tail to my Cube Stereo 160 about 8 months ago and even now when I go out I can’t believe where it will go!! I’m sure (if it wasn’t for me) there would be no stopping it!!

I agree, with good tyres at the right pressure i am amazed the places my bike will go up or down and i am no expert.

 

[DrStupid]

The worst climb in the daily ride. Almost never clean it. It's about 300 feet up, these are the last 50 feet, which are of course the worst. The cassette today is a deore 10 speed 11-42 with the 11 tooth cog removed, and a spacer used to shift the drive line away from the muddy rear tire. Prevention is the best medicine and I find this keeps the chain clean for giving up a gear I dont use in the mud. I use the limit screw as stated above somewhere, to keep the shifter from indexing off the 9th gear.

 

[erider1]

... an old thread I have come across as researching best options for downgrading rear derailleur (drivetrain) to more practical, lighter, more durable, and cheaper...

Just got the Levo Gen4 which of course comes with SRAM T-transmission on all models... well, they have to justify somehow the exorbitant prices. After riding it for about 75 miles, I am not convinced it is even superior to mechanical Eagle. I find the 12sp Trans. wasteful (too many gears), expensive and heavy. And it shifts sloooow.

In my view, el cheapo, all steel 10 speed cassette 10-36 would be an ideal option.
One requirement, for me, is the 10s cog. As the chainring limit on Turbo Levo Gen4 is only 36t the 10s cog is a must.

As it seems SRAM or Shimano do not produce 10 speed cassettes with 10 t. cog.
Did anyone went through same process and found any 10speed or even 9 speed cassette with 10 teeth cog?

 

[WatermanJim]

... an old thread I have come across as researching best options for downgrading rear derailleur (drivetrain) to more practical, lighter, more durable, and cheaper...

Just got the Levo Gen4 which of course comes with SRAM T-transmission on all models... well, they have to justify somehow the exorbitant prices. After riding it for about 75 miles, I am not convinced it is even superior to mechanical Eagle. I find the 12sp Trans. wasteful (too many gears), expensive and heavy. And it shifts sloooow.

In my view, el cheapo, all steel 10 speed cassette 10-36 would be an ideal option.
One requirement, for me, is the 10s cog. As the chainring limit on Turbo Levo Gen4 is only 36t the 10s cog is a must.

As it seems SRAM or Shimano do not produce 10 speed cassettes with 10 t. cog.
Did anyone went through same process and found any 10speed or even 9 speed cassette with 10 teeth cog?

I have the sram EX8 system on my gen 1 for 8 years and i will replace it with axs when the cassette wears out again.
Problem with 8sp on ebikes is that you wear out the gear used most. This could be mitigated with steel cogs on the smaller gears but still it has been realized that having a few more gears to choose from in the range used the most is a good thing. No need to rethink this, The transmission is the best system out there. Enjoy the bike.