Levo Gen 2 2020 Turbo Levo Owners Thread

[RichAE]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a 2020 Levo this week and having a bit of a dilemma trying to decide whether to go for the Comp or the Expert Carbon.

At the moment I'm riding a 2018 Stumpjumper Carbon Comp which was from before the recent Stumpjumper/Levo redesign, but given it's a similar carbon design, it's probably closer to the Expert.

Both Levo's are very expensive bikes and even the Levo Comp is more expensive than what I paid for the carbon Stumpjumper. Therefore the Levo Comp looks like it's better value for money, especially now it has the 700w battery.

Has anyone ridden both bikes?
My main worry is that I might miss the carbon of my Stumpjumper, as it's perhaps a bit of a downgrade.
My other thinking though is that one of carbon's main positives is weight saving and that's probably less of an issue when you've got motor assistance. Further to that, my other worry is longevity, as while my Stumpjumper could be ridden for years, I feel that the Levo and other ebikes will continue to evolve, so eventually the frame won't support smaller and more efficent motors and batteries. So perhaps it makes sense just to go for the cheaper option given it's not a bike I'm likely to end up riding for 10 years.

Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks

 

[Eduardoramundo]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a 2020 Levo this week and having a bit of a dilemma trying to decide whether to go for the Comp or the Expert Carbon.

At the moment I'm riding a 2018 Stumpjumper Carbon Comp which was from before the recent Stumpjumper/Levo redesign, but given it's a similar carbon design, it's probably closer to the Expert.

Both Levo's are very expensive bikes and even the Levo Comp is more expensive than what I paid for the carbon Stumpjumper. Therefore the Levo Comp looks like it's better value for money, especially now it has the 700w battery.

Has anyone ridden both bikes?
My main worry is that I might miss the carbon of my Stumpjumper, as it's perhaps a bit of a downgrade.
My other thinking though is that one of carbon's main positives is weight saving and that's probably less of an issue when you've got motor assistance. Further to that, my other worry is longevity, as while my Stumpjumper could be ridden for years, I feel that the Levo and other ebikes will continue to evolve, so eventually the frame won't support smaller and more efficent motors and batteries. So perhaps it makes sense just to go for the cheaper option given it's not a bike I'm likely to end up riding for 10 years.

Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks

You seem to have answered you own questions. You could of course pay lots extra and save yourself the 0.001% in weight ??

 

[BFG]

I've ridden both and I'm picking up a Comp tomorrow

There's a very slightly different ride feel due to the carbon damping some vibration, but it's not something you'd notice after the first few pedal strokes imho.

 

[RichAE]

Haha thanks guys!

I think I'm just looking to talk myself out of getting the Expert!

 

[pixel]

I thought the carbon had a 10% weight reduction? However, not sure it's worth the additional cost. Will let you know after the weekend. My LBS says my carbon will be ready to collect this friday

 

[Eduardoramundo]

I thought the carbon had a 10% weight reduction? However, not sure it's worth the additional cost. Will let you know after the weekend. My LBS says my carbon will be ready to collect this friday

Maybe but its not going to reduce the weight of the whole bike 10%

 

[Galion]

I thought the carbon had a 10% weight reduction? However, not sure it's worth the additional cost. Will let you know after the weekend. My LBS says my carbon will be ready to collect this friday

Only 0.6kg weight difference. Nothing remarkable but still I like carbon better. I got a 2020 Carbon Comp, happy camper here.

 

[laustin956]

Hi i went for the comp and spent the extra money on better parts

 

[pixel]

Hi i went for the comp and spent the extra money on better parts

What parts did you end up, upgrading? I know the carbon has some parts upgraded too, so it would be interesting to see which parts you ended up going with vs the ones fitted to the expert with cost factored in.

 

[RichAE]

I think I've decided I'm going for the Comp now, but just have the agonizing choice of which colour! I'm leaning towards the blue (Storm Grey).

 

[Frano]

you gotta love new bikes day.......pity they don't stay clean long , View attachment 20303View attachment 20304no mud just dust in Australia.

Hi, I couldn´t stop notice that beautiful coil shock,.... I'm thinking about change it too...is that a 210x55 shock? if is a 210x55, have you notice the extra travel? how many lbs has the coil and what's your weight? thanks!

 

[laustin956]

Hi the parts i changed

ergon ge1 evo factory
renthal apex stem
renthal fatbar carbon
ergon sm e saddle
sram xg-1175 cassette
fox dpx2
dt swiss hx 1501 30mm

then later new forks and dropper magura brakes 220mm rotor

 

[ryturn]

Hi, I couldn´t stop notice that beautiful coil shock,.... I'm thinking about change it too...is that a 210x55 shock? if is a 210x55, have you notice the extra travel? how many lbs has the coil and what's your weight? thanks!

Rock Shox Ultimate Coil 210x55 mm running a 600lb coil at 92 kg plus , changed with Specialized ok and Rock Shox Lyrik Ultimate 170mm up front .

 

[Mondfuchs]

Rock Shox Ultimate Coil 210x55 mm running a 600lb coil at 92 kg plus , changed with Specialized ok and Rock Shox Lyrik Ultimate 170mm up front .

Hi, what kind of Offset was proposed? Standard as far as I know is 51mm for 150mm Forks. Thank for your response

 

[ryturn]

Hi, what kind of Offset was proposed? Standard as far as I know is 51mm for 150mm Forks. Thank for your response

51mm

 

[ryturn]

don't want to say this too loudly but has anyone here blown there motor in a 2020 ?

 

[Chubba]

This is a mate’s bike. Brand new battery/cabling/motor and TCU. One ride then this again.

Moisture or charger issue?

Open the mission control app and check if there are any issues in diagnostics. Clear them if there are.
Reset the TCU and check if that helps. If all else fails, might need a trip to the LBS to clear or update firmware. I had the same issue.

 

[Chubba]

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to buy a 2020 Levo this week and having a bit of a dilemma trying to decide whether to go for the Comp or the Expert Carbon.

At the moment I'm riding a 2018 Stumpjumper Carbon Comp which was from before the recent Stumpjumper/Levo redesign, but given it's a similar carbon design, it's probably closer to the Expert.

Both Levo's are very expensive bikes and even the Levo Comp is more expensive than what I paid for the carbon Stumpjumper. Therefore the Levo Comp looks like it's better value for money, especially now it has the 700w battery.

Has anyone ridden both bikes?
My main worry is that I might miss the carbon of my Stumpjumper, as it's perhaps a bit of a downgrade.
My other thinking though is that one of carbon's main positives is weight saving and that's probably less of an issue when you've got motor assistance. Further to that, my other worry is longevity, as while my Stumpjumper could be ridden for years, I feel that the Levo and other ebikes will continue to evolve, so eventually the frame won't support smaller and more efficent motors and batteries. So perhaps it makes sense just to go for the cheaper option given it's not a bike I'm likely to end up riding for 10 years.

Anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks

Very little difference between the two and the weight difference is irrelevant. Save the cash go Comp and upgrade stuff if you want to.

 

[grantini]

I just installed the Lupine SL-SF hard wired headlight on my 2020 Levo. After a couple challenges it is working perfectly and is an elegant solution.... Fishing the cable through the frame, which has a couple choke points, caused us to damage the connector. I happened to have a spare cable and after talking to the folks at Lupine we cut the original cable off and put the new one on. It worked perfectly. They are having some issues with the 2020's and the SL-SF light and I suspect this might be the cause of the problem. The light is perfect, makes a ton of light, and is easily controlled on the handlebar.

 

[Captain45]

I just installed the Lupine SL-SF hard wired headlight on my 2020 Levo. After a couple challenges it is working perfectly and is an elegant solution.... Fishing the cable through the frame, which has a couple choke points, caused us to damage the connector. I happened to have a spare cable and after talking to the folks at Lupine we cut the original cable off and put the new one on. It worked perfectly. They are having some issues with the 2020's and the SL-SF light and I suspect this might be the cause of the problem. The light is perfect, makes a ton of light, and is easily controlled on the handlebar.

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Looks great, going to have to go hardwire soon too

 

[Captain45]

This happened tonight. Renthal 30mm Rise Carbon w/ 40mm Apex Stem. Should be fairly close to OEM geometry (coming up 3mm higher and back 5mm from stock). I've got some revgrips coming in soon. I think this setup will reduce some of the hand fatigue I'm getting

 

[Eduardoramundo]

Open the mission control app and check if there are any issues in diagnostics. Clear them if there are.
Reset the TCU and check if that helps. If all else fails, might need a trip to the LBS to clear or update firmware. I had the same issue.

The diagnostics were automatically reported back to specialized via mission control who confirmed an issue. Everything has been replaced by the LBS.

 

[Timelesswhite]

This is my formal introduction about my 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo. Decided on the Comp, for its reasonable price and most importantly the great reviews about the Brose motor.
I upgraded the suspension with PUSH’s ACS3 coil damper and boosted up to 160mm of travel. The rear shock was fitted with a Fox DHX2 650lb spring.
New steering controls offered new look and feel, compliments of Deity 787.
So far, the bike has lived up to the hype. I’ve totaled around 200 miles so far and I’m looking forward to many more.

 

[Mcharza]

This happened tonight. Renthal 30mm Rise Carbon w/ 40mm Apex Stem. Should be fairly close to OEM geometry (coming up 3mm higher and back 5mm from stock). I've got some revgrips coming in soon. I think this setup will reduce some of the hand fatigue I'm getting

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Hope it will. I have Renthal 35 mm stem/carbon bar combo and have to change it because it was too harsh

 

[grantini]

This is my formal introduction about my 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo. Decided on the Comp, for its reasonable price and most importantly the great reviews about the Brose motor.
I upgraded the suspension with PUSH’s ACS3 coil damper and boosted up to 160mm of travel. The rear shock was fitted with a Fox DHX2 650lb spring.
New steering controls offered new look and feel, compliments of Deity 787.
So far, the bike has lived up to the hype. I’ve totaled around 200 miles so far and I’m looking forward to many more.View attachment 21370View attachment 21371

mmmmm.... pretty

 

[grantini]

I took my inaugural night ride with the Lupine SL SF system tonight. Worked seamlessly, plenty of light, though not quite as much as my $400 Serfas True 1500+ system.... Started out with a little light and the light automatically ran as DRL, then as I got into the woods, it automatically switched to Low Beam.... switching back and forth was really easy with the handlebar controls... So much better than having to remember to charge and install the Serfas system, and having the opportunity to end up unintentionally riding into dark, which is very easy this time of year. I give it five stars!

 

[TMS]

I took my inaugural night ride with the Lupine SL SF system tonight. Worked seamlessly, plenty of light, though not quite as much as my $400 Serfas True 1500+ system.... Started out with a little light and the light automatically ran as DRL, then as I got into the woods, it automatically switched to Low Beam.... switching back and forth was really easy with the handlebar controls... So much better than having to remember to charge and install the Serfas system, and having the opportunity to end up unintentionally riding into dark, which is very easy this time of year. I give it five stars!

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Why are you flooding this on several threads? Yes it is ok for a lamp but it is still just a lamp.

 

[grantini]

Why are you flooding this on several threads? Yes it is ok for a lamp but it is still just a lamp.

Just because it was in several threads... it's a light but it's a gamechanger.

 

[pixel]

First hit out on the 2020 expert carbon this morning! The 2020 motor is definitely a bit louder than the 2018 version, a good few segment PBs despite never having ridden on 29s! Still had 3 bars left which is where this bike really stands out for me, and I would have run it closer to empty had the minister of home affairs not set a deadline for a birthday party

 

[grantini]

This is my formal introduction about my 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo. Decided on the Comp, for its reasonable price and most importantly the great reviews about the Brose motor.
I upgraded the suspension with PUSH’s ACS3 coil damper and boosted up to 160mm of travel. The rear shock was fitted with a Fox DHX2 650lb spring.
New steering controls offered new look and feel, compliments of Deity 787.
So far, the bike has lived up to the hype. I’ve totaled around 200 miles so far and I’m looking forward to many more.View attachment 21370View attachment 21371

Man I really like that color... looks better than the promo pics