I have no problems with the balance or cadence 
Shorter Crank Arms on Levo / Kenevo?
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cozzy
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Emailed miranda today to find out when stock is due for the 150mm. After getting pinged over the bars last week plus constant pedal strikes, Im keen to get rid of the stock 165mm cranks.
I can do you a good deal on my shimano 150 miranda's .. they won't fit, but they look nice.
I ended up with the 140 unicycle ones on the Kenevo, though I only changed a week ago as they Kenevo has a 6cm HIGHER BB than my Shimano HT had, so it actually felt quite good in comparison ..
The 140's seem good. Though as when I changed to the 150's on the shimano, at first it felt bizarre compared to the standard ones - after a couple of k's they feel ok though and now after 40k ish I don't notice at all, cadence is easier to get higher. Though I can see why people would find the 140's too short until you adjust, or if you were taller/longer legged.
I ended up with the 140 unicycle ones on the Kenevo, though I only changed a week ago as they Kenevo has a 6cm HIGHER BB than my Shimano HT had, so it actually felt quite good in comparison ..
The 140's seem good. Though as when I changed to the 150's on the shimano, at first it felt bizarre compared to the standard ones - after a couple of k's they feel ok though and now after 40k ish I don't notice at all, cadence is easier to get higher. Though I can see why people would find the 140's too short until you adjust, or if you were taller/longer legged.
cozzy
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Well they are back in stock, although they never responded to my enquiry, so thats a bit crap. 62 euros for 150mm with 18 euro shipping to the uk.
EDIT - now ordered!
EDIT - now ordered!
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Yup, I mailed them to buy some new caps for my shimano ones (before I realised I could buy some nice ally ones) but never got a reply.
They were super impressive with shipping though, I think I ordered them early Tuesday afternoon and they arrived Wednesday morning !
cozzy
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Can you confirm what your order summary number was was?
My email confirmation is KAPPA 0 - PM67IBT17CA700001541, but of course this doesnt tell me anything useful & Im now worrying I fatfingered the order wrong. I just want to verify I ordered the 150mm kappa0 for kenevo, the same as you. Cheers
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Mcharza
E*POWAH BOSS
cozzy
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Well they arrived Wednesday which is remarkable service. You certainly have to put some force into undoing the original crank bolts! I used the bolts the cranks came with, so no self extraction.
They feel good, well not much different really except I didnt get any pedal strikes today.
I do seem to knock my ankle on the crankarm with my wonky foot, so I guess they must be a slightly different shape to the stock ones. Although this should resolve when I get some oneup pedals with the inboard bearing which will push my foot outwards.
I did read that some seem to get less range with shorter cranks. My range/elevation isnt great as it is at 100kg (approx 20 miles or 3500ft) so hopefully this isnt the case. Although my style of riding is more self uplift at bikeparks rather than long pedally rides, so its difficult to keep track of how the battery performs.
They feel good, well not much different really except I didnt get any pedal strikes today.
I do seem to knock my ankle on the crankarm with my wonky foot, so I guess they must be a slightly different shape to the stock ones. Although this should resolve when I get some oneup pedals with the inboard bearing which will push my foot outwards.
I did read that some seem to get less range with shorter cranks. My range/elevation isnt great as it is at 100kg (approx 20 miles or 3500ft) so hopefully this isnt the case. Although my style of riding is more self uplift at bikeparks rather than long pedally rides, so its difficult to keep track of how the battery performs.
How tall are you ? I'm about 5'10 and ran 150's on an e8000, but now run 140's on a Kenevo. They both feel weird for a few km's (not sure how much of that is psychological as no one notices if you just let them ride and don't tell them).
6'2. Taking in to account the loss of wattage with shorter cranks vs less pedal strikes 10mm shorter than stock (155mm) seem like a good option but not many if any above have mentioned it.
cozzy
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I would go for the new hope 155mm I think in hindsight. I get some odd knee pain on 150mm I've never had before, but I do have crap knees.
Any chance you have a link to some?
cozzy
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No they are super new. I saw them referenced on Facebook by Berkshire cycles I think over the past few days.
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Cranksets - E-Bike Crank
Awesome. No price? Maybe not available yet?
Thanks for that!
berkshire helpfully shipped me some 160mm (with the ktm graphic) love them! i have to say though, that @Kiwi in Wales is correct, going even shorter is probably no problem. i am definitely considering 152’s or 150’s... thanks all!
Wheezer
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Bent my praxis crank arm so I replaced my cranks with Miranda Kappa 8/16. More Q than needed, but I toe out a little anyways so I don't mind it. Besides, that was all they had in stock. I think I'm having fewer pedal strikes.
After much reading I am ready to say goodbye to that long crank life. I've got a 2019 Kenevo and am wanting to go with 150mm arms. What is the preferred brand and or vendor/retailer for the US? My searches from the aforementioned links has come up empty handed. Thank you all in advance.
HORSPWR
E*POWAH Master
Everything on their site is showing out of stock. Is everyone just waiting for their stock to replenish?
Thanks for your help. Kappa 0 with the specialized q factor are on the way. I will report back with my what I think.
Don't worry!
I installed them on my 18 kenevo, a couple of months ago.. and I've never looked back!
There great!
Tim
i’m 6’2” and my 160mm cud be shorter for sure. imma try the 150’s soon
I am leaning towards 150 myself.. 176cm here, just not sure how it will affect seat height
In theory, you will increase 1mm in seat height for each mm shorter crank arm length (to keep your leg in the same position at bottom stroke). In reality I think it becomes slightly less than that, though I'm not sure why as it should be the same - but if you allow for that - you'll be close.
Yes, that is what bothers me...if my seat height goes up for 15mm I find that less then ideal for tight, very slow speed uphills in case I have to stop and get off the bike as my dropper post bottom position will be 15 mm higher from the ground as well.
cozzy
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At 6' on a large kenevo i would go 155mm. I have 150mm currently. The wu seatpost had to go as it wasnt long enough to work with 150mm cranks, being too high already when dropped & slammed in the seatpost & not high enough when extended. Also I get odd knee pain with 150mm. I would ideally like to try 155mm.
I'm on a S4 2020 kenevo so I will have no problem with the seatpost ... but in fact my doubt is between 150 and 155
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