YT Decoy thread part 2

[Lee Dove]

I seem to have got past the bad pedal strike phase (still hit sometimes) but am getting a lot of chainring hits now.

 

[Lee Dove]

Miranda Bike Parts Various crank lengths available for E8000

 

[squeegee]

here's an article on this subject in case you haven't found it, they make their case for 160mm on emtb's

What’s the best crank length on an E-MTB? | E-MOUNTAINBIKE Magazine

Next question, where to get shorter cranks in the USA? Anyone?

 

[KenX]

155 cranks would help, which ones did you use?

Sorry, just got in! Miranda Delta SH (Shimano) ordered direct from their site!

 

[Dirtnvert]

X4 wanting to know which 155mm cranks. 15mm would go a long way to curbing pedal strikes.

I've run flip chip in high and low and really prefer the way the low setting feels, high makes my reach feel longish.

Decoy is definitely the most pedal striking bike I've ever owned

Yes. I like the head angle now and the front end is lower with the short headtube so i dont want to lose any height

 

[Dirtnvert]

I seem to have got past the bad pedal strike phase (still hit sometimes) but am getting a lot of chainring hits now.

Yes the chainring is flush with the motor casing somit does hit. Chains are already a weak "link" with eebs. Be nice to have a buffer of 1/4 -1/2 inch. @trailwatts is checking to see if the new carbon bash guards he's distributing have ones for the decoy. Maybe he'll chime in here

 

[squeegee]

Sorry, just got in! Miranda Delta SH (Shimano) ordered direct from their site!

I just noticed on my Decoy that the cranks are 165mm, for some reason thought they were 170. I guess I'd have to get at least 155mm to really offset an appreciable amount of pedal strikes.

How do the 155mm feel in terms of a platform for descending and what about pedaling acceleration, cornering? Any differences worth noting?

To me the decoy feels very akin to my Intense Tracer, suspension and handling are similar and don't want to lose any of the feel by running super short cranks.

 

[KenX]

Once you've ridden the 155's for a short while, you don't notice them (apart from less pedal strikes!) Don't forget to raise the saddle by 1cm.........

 

[squeegee]

Nice, thanks. I'm going to try them once Miranda has 155mm back in stock.

 

[KenX]

Had 152's on my last e-bike, no issues...........

 

[Sorinok]

Some uphills with Decoy!

 

[Sorinok]

 

[Duelsy]

Just got a confirmation from YT that my order for a Decoy CF Pro Race has been confirmed and processed. So buzzing to get the new bike, can't wait.

 

[AZCN]

The Jeffsy 2019 Hanger is the right one.

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Here with the XTR 12-speed derailleur:

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Your bike looks great! Let me ask you: I have a decoy as well and put Shimano XT 12 speed on it. Is your chain skipping in the 10 tooth cog when you apply pressure to the pedals in Boost mode? My whole system is brand new and is skipping almost to the point of unridability. Three of my best local shops have looked at it without being able to fix it. It did this on the original Di2 that it come with. I am wondering if this is a Shimano thing because I did have an old worn out SRAM GX on it for a bit whilst I was waiting for my micro spline hub to come in and I didn't have any issues. Thanks.

 

[Sapientiea]

Some uphills with Decoy!

Nice video. You have fun, that good! BTW check your headset.I think I hear some clunking, which I normally associate with a slightly loose headset. On the Decoy they cut the fork quite close so the top spacer has little room to set correct tension. At least with mine and my wifes Decoy. Could be wrong ...you just igonore me ahahaha

 

[Lee]

......
I hear that its a big difference in service over the Atlantic. Its even possible to order a New hanger there! thats not possible from Germany.

They have recently added further parts to their UK site including a replacement hanger which wasn't listed earlier. It ships from Germany so must be available there now.

Mech Hanger Set DECOY 2019

Thanks

 

[Eckythump]

 

[Lee Dove]

Hmm ... looks like the same model as mine BUT mine does not ride like that .. I doubt it is the rider

 

[Jedipip]

Hmm ... looks like the same model as mine BUT mine does not ride like that .. I doubt it is the rider

Mine does ride like that!

Only I am usually bailing out and leaving the bike to its own desires when a drop or jump like those pops up!

 

[Borist]

Hmm ... looks like the same model as mine BUT mine does not ride like that .. I doubt it is the rider

Same here. It must be the setting ...

 

[Dirtnvert]

Im sure that setting is in the next etube update/fingers crossed

 

[KenX]

Just fitted a Marzocchi Bomber coil shock to the Decoy, more here:
Any chance a coil shock will work? - EMTB Forums

 

[Duelsy]

Bike has arrived and I’m just unboxing it. I may be being stupid but what is this for? Was loose in the box.

Everything looks good, box wasn’t too beaten up. Going to apply invisi-frame tomorrow when I’m home.

 

[Jedipip]

Surplus to requirements! Don’t fit it to the mech hanger ??
It’s all set up to just have the derailleur bolted onZ

 

[Duelsy]

Surplus to requirements! Don’t fit it to the mech hanger ??
It’s all set up to just have the derailleur bolted onZ

Ok cool cheers mate. Did you adjust your derailer B bolt at all? Mine has come assembled with it fully tightened down.

 

[Duelsy]

Got everything assembled, bike looks great. Need to finish setting up the suspension but will do that when I go for a ride. Definitely need to adjust my drive train though, not sounding as smooth as it should do and some of the changes don’t seem clean.

There’s quite a large gap from frame to battery when you assemble everything. Maybe it’s designed that way for drainage but I would have expected everything to be flush on an expensive bike tbh. Still very happy overall .

 

[Jedipip]

Ok cool cheers mate. Did you adjust your derailer B bolt at all? Mine has come assembled with it fully tightened down.

Yes. I set it up from the bottom up.
Didn’t want to trust the tech at the factory.
I’ve found a few too many badly torqued bolts and nuts on previous YT’s. So basic build as though nothing has been set right.

Find a You tube vid and go for it!

 

[Lee Dove]

Got everything assembled, bike looks great. Need to finish setting up the suspension but will do that when I go for a ride. Definitely need to adjust my drive train though, not sounding as smooth as it should do and some of the changes don’t seem clean.

There’s quite a large gap from frame to battery when you assemble everything. Maybe it’s designed that way for drainage but I would have expected everything to be flush on an expensive bike tbh. Still very happy overall .

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That gap is as designed. The part fastened to the battery acts as a mudguard and by putting a positive gap there it stops dirt collecting and in fact makes a more positive visual join compared to trying to get a really tight gap. It also ensures that the battery is a good fit in the connector etc. even with a bit of dirt in the join area.

 

[Duelsy]

Yes. I set it up from the bottom up.
Didn’t want to trust the tech at the factory.
I’ve found a few too many badly torqued bolts and nuts on previous YT’s. So basic build as though nothing has been set right.

Find a You tube vid and go for it!

Aye got it all setup this evening. Will dial it in after a few rides out this week, buzzing to give it a go. Just need to get cushcore and go tubeless now.

That gap is as designed. The part fastened to the battery acts as a mudguard and by putting a positive gap there it stops dirt collecting and in fact makes a more positive visual join compared to trying to get a really tight gap. It also ensures that the battery is a good fit in the connector etc. even with a bit of dirt in the join area.

Hmm okay will see how I get on. Given the rave reviews I suppose it’s clearly not been a problem for anyone yet anyway!

 

[Jedipip]

Aye got it all setup this evening. Will dial it in after a few rides out this week, buzzing to give it a go. Just need to get cushcore and go tubeless now.




Hmm okay will see how I get on. Given the rave reviews I suppose it’s clearly not been a problem for anyone yet anyway!

It’s a ‘semi’ integrated battery - easy to get on and off so you can charge it in a warmer environment than a typical Northern European garden shed!

It’s really not a problem and works superbly. You saw how accessible all the internal cables were?