Not that I've particularly noticed.Well, I'd be pretty happy if I get that out of my motor and battery. Noticed any drop in performance?
The Neuron ON has ODO 23231 km today, but the circumference of the wheel is 1365 mm instead of 2300mm, then the actual kilometers are 34835, but I can not prove it with a photo.Just hit 5000miles today on the bike, which seems high, but got me thinking there must be a few who have done mega miles by now. Taking the bike to really mean 'frame' as I'm already on the second motor!
Leaderboard added below for bike mileage and column added for number of motors if provided.
Ranking Mileage Bike No. Motors Name 1 18953 2016 Haibike Original Mike TowpathTraveler 2 18574 e Whaka Original franciscoasismm 3 14285 Canyon neuron ON Original franciscoasismm 4 12960 - Original? Levo comp 5 12000 2019 Decoy - Lee Dove 6 10500 2020 Trek Rail 7 - BigMark 7 9999 Giant Quick E Original the auldfella 8 8695 Focus thron - Jugglematt 9 8500 Haibike Original Rod9301 10 8333 - - Sander23 11 8164 2022 Creo 2 brizi2003 12 8084 2019 Levo - Lumpy 13 7900 YT Decoy Original Jedipip 14 7300 2020 Levo SL Original Pennine 15 7061 2020 Levo 3 Grannyjones 16 6638 2018 Kenevo 3 brizi2003 17 6100 - Original Stihldog 18 6000 2018 Giant Pdoz 19 6000 2018 Cube Reaction 2 Scot5297 20 5900 2020 Cube Sterio - Diverdude 21 5280 Merida E-120 Original John Beedham 22 5280 2029 Orbea FS Wild Original Mountainbiker 23 5020 2022 Giant Reign Original jaggysnake 24 5000 Cannondale Moterra 2 Jimbob 25 5000 2020 Levo 4 Kombos 26 4765 Levo SL - semmelrocc 27 4300 Kenevo Original Alexbn921 28 4280 2020 Levo Comp 3 Ridgeway Rider 29 3587 2019 Levo 2 Levo Laland 30 3200 Focus Jam 2 Original Winryn 31 3200 Haibike - Tubby G 32 3100 Focus Jam 2 Original steve_sordy 33 3086 - Original Defmech 34 3085 2021 Levo SL Original Streddaz 35 3000 Powerfly 5 - BigMark 36 2795 2015 Gedipa Original John Beedham 37 2500 - - RustyMTB 38 2400 Rise - Tubby G 39 2370 Merida e-160 Original steve_sordy 40 2110 2021 Cube Stereo - GrantCube
The Neuron ON has ODO 23231 km today, but the circumference of the wheel is 1365 mm instead of 2300mm, then the actual kilometers are 34835, but I can not prove it with a photoTable updated, and additional column added for the number of motors if people have provided the info.
I'll add an additional table later for motor mileage as well as people seem interested in that. Feel free to update info / add if not previously provided and I'll update accordingly. And, no, "my bike stopped recording, but it's probably done 5000000000miles" won't be counted!
As for a prize for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place, we could look at some new padded shorts as you probably need them by this point.
No need for proof, all just for fun / interest! I'll update.The Neuron ON has ODO 23231 km today, but the circumference of the wheel is 1365 mm instead of 2300mm, then the actual kilometers are 34835, but I can not prove it with a photo
En Badajoz llueve poco y casi todos los días hago al menos 30 kilómetros, compré un motor de respaldo de Andrzej Wodejszo para mi tranquilidad y ahora solo voy en Trail o Boost, pero el viejo DU-E8000 no se rompe.No hay necesidad de pruebas, ¡todo solo por diversión/interés! Actualizaré
Sin embargo, eso es algo muy bueno y te coloca en la cima de la clasificación, tanto en bicicleta como en motor.
If we are talking about Ebikes and what everyone wants to know is how long the motor is going to last so the distance the original motor is what would be important here
Luck, never washing the engine with hose or Kärcher and cleaning the transmission well I think is the keyBut it's not just the Motor.
Most other parts fail on E Bikes just as frequently, if not more so.
As you can see from my comprehsive list. Forks, Shocks, Droppers, full brake systems, rear wheels, rock guards, power cables, speed sensor wires, frame pivot bearings, rear mechs.
I wipe out a rear wheel on every visit to an Uplift Centre.
Nearly everything apart from the frame has had to be replaced in some cases 3 times or more.
A manual mountain bike is the same - a constant headache, minus a few things that an E Bike has.
The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.Yes so much in an Ebike is just not up to the task . Road bike maintenance for example is a fraction of the cost . Maintenance on Ebike in UK condition is a lot of hours. Be interested in a survey of that . Three hours riding in wet conditions probably needs ninety minutes maintenance. Three times a week . As Alice said We still got a long way to go
But where do you draw the line on what's the original bike? You can crack the frame and get that warrantied as well, but it that the same bike? As I said before, being an Ebike, the thing that most people want to know is how long is the motor going to last. It's an expensive part of the bike and something that commonly fails.But it's not just the Motor.
Most other parts fail on E Bikes just as frequently, if not more so.
As you can see from my comprehsive list. Forks, Shocks, Droppers, full brake systems, rear wheels, rock guards, power cables, speed sensor wires, frame pivot bearings, rear mechs.
I wipe out a rear wheel on every visit to an Uplift Centre.
Nearly everything apart from the frame has had to be replaced in some cases 3 times or more.
A manual mountain bike is the same - a constant headache, minus a few things that an E Bike has.
Really? How much maintenance are you doing? We get some pretty wet winters in Tasmania and all I do after a muddy ride is hose the bike off, wipe it down and relube the chain. Takes about 10 to 15 minutes at most.The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.
Manual bikes are very nearly as bad. They still have a long way to go as well. An E Bike has a few more things that can go wrong but about 90% of the problems are on both forms of bike. I should know, I ride both.
Yes i agree .The corrosion on parts of the last motor of mine to fail was horrendous only 15 months old that one was . But you would have had to drop it out to see it or clean it properly. Removing all these piddly little bolts then cleaning the crap out round about the delicate wires on the motor TCU on the Levo is asking for trouble. Mine gets a good careful wash if needed. That can be three times a week at worst. To properly do that you would need to take cranks plastic motor covers of every time. I won't mention checking bearings etc. My headset ones get filthy I have gone through at least 2 a year . Next person saying that theirs lasts for years . Same with cassette and chains . You will never know how hard people are riding or a bike unless you go out with them . Plus I live on coast saltier air compared to inland you see it on neglected cars.The constant headache of maintenance and failures seems consistant whether it's wet or dry. Apart from all the bike cleaning when its wet and muddy. Incidentally 2023 has so far been a very bad year in the UK for wet weather. At least in Western England. There has only been a 4 week spell so far where I haven't had to clean the bike after a ride. Plus a little bit during the Winter but that was due to Snow cover. But apart from that, full bike wash garbage needed after every ride. Increasing the maintenance time after every wet ride considerably.
Manual bikes are very nearly as bad. They still have a long way to go as well. An E Bike has a few more things that can go wrong but about 90% of the problems are on both forms of bike. I should know, I ride both.
Dare I say all mine luckily been warranty claims over and above what I should have got. Dropper a few cables sone of which are not cheap as you know 3 motors frame so i cant complain. . Ebikes have a long way to go if they are to be used to their full capability but that's only my opinion. Some folk on here do megamiles no maintenance and everything is tickets boo. Others get loads and it's because of their maintenance routine. We will never know.I've gone through 3 Motors but I've also gone through 2 Forks, 3 Rear Shocks, 3 Rear Wheels, 3 Full Brake Systems, 3 Dropper Posts. A Motor is another complicated and expensive componant to a bike just like a Fork, Rear Shock, Hydraulic brake system and Dropper Post and what all these also have in common is levels of unreliability.
That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?I've gone through 3 Motors but I've also gone through 2 Forks, 3 Rear Shocks, 3 Rear Wheels, 3 Full Brake Systems, 3 Dropper Posts. A Motor is another complicated and expensive componant to a bike just like a Fork, Rear Shock, Hydraulic brake system and Dropper Post and what all these also have in common is levels of unreliability.
Real Mountain biker him Jim he broke an Anvil once.That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?
I was wondering about this for a while. I bought the Levo Comp for £5k but noticed the S Works was over £13k. I was wondering if the S Works has the same reliability, and thought I'd be gutted if it was after paying that much!I think it is best to buy the ebike you decide in its cheapest version, because the reliability is the same, but the price you pay is not
The forks developed CSU (Crown Steerer Unit) issues and the shocks were still working but started leaking oil and/or the stantions started going discoloured which meant they were on their way out and needed replacing.That's quite the casualty rate of parts there... how did you go through so many forks and shocks?
The motors and electronics are identical. All 700 batteries are the same as well. S-works is just the parts bolted to it.I was wondering about this for a while. I bought the Levo Comp for £5k but noticed the S Works was over £13k. I was wondering if the S Works has the same reliability, and thought I'd be gutted if it was after paying that much!
Just hit 5000miles today on the bike, which seems high, but got me thinking there must be a few who have done mega miles by now. Taking the bike to really mean 'frame' as I'm already on the second motor!
Leaderboard added below for bike mileage and column added for number of motors if provided.
Bike
Ranking Mileage Bike No. Motors Name 1 21636 Canyon neuron ON Original franciscoasismm 2 18953 2016 Haibike Original Mike TowpathTraveler 3 18574 e Whaka Original franciscoasismm 4 12960 - Original? Levo comp 5 12000 2019 Decoy - Lee Dove 6 10500 2020 Trek Rail 7 - BigMark 7 9999 Giant Quick E Original the auldfella 8 8695 Focus thron - Jugglematt 9 8500 Haibike Original Rod9301 10 8333 - - Sander23 11 8164 2022 Creo 2 brizi2003 12 8084 2019 Levo - Lumpy 13 7900 YT Decoy Original Jedipip 14 7300 2020 Levo SL Original Pennine 15 7061 2020 Levo 3 Grannyjones 16 6638 2018 Kenevo 3 brizi2003 17 6100 - Original Stihldog 18 6000 2018 Giant Pdoz 19 6000 2018 Cube Reaction 2 Scot5297 20 5900 2020 Cube Sterio - Diverdude 21 5280 Merida E-120 Original John Beedham 22 5280 2029 Orbea FS Wild Original Mountainbiker 23 5020 2022 Giant Reign Original jaggysnake 24 5000 Cannondale Moterra 2 Jimbob 25 5000 2020 Levo 4 Kombos 26 4765 Levo SL - semmelrocc 27 4300 Kenevo Original Alexbn921 28 4280 2020 Levo Comp 3 Ridgeway Rider 29 3587 2019 Levo 2 Levo Laland 30 3200 Focus Jam 2 Original Winryn 31 3200 Haibike - Tubby G 32 3100 Focus Jam 2 Original steve_sordy 33 3086 - Original Defmech 34 3085 2021 Levo SL Original Streddaz 35 3000 Powerfly 5 - BigMark 36 2795 2015 Gedipa Original John Beedham 37 2500 - - RustyMTB 38 2400 Rise - Tubby G 39 2370 Merida e-160 Original steve_sordy 40 2110 2021 Cube Stereo - GrantCube
Motor
Ranking Mileage Motor Name 1 21636 Shimano E8000 franciscoasismm 2 18953 Yamaha Mike TowpathTraveler 3 18574 Shimano E8000 franciscoasismm 4 8500 - rod9301 5 7900 - Jedipip 6 7300 - Pennine 7 6100 Botch gen4 cx Stihldog 8 6000 - Pdoz 9 5500 - Scott5297 10 5280 Shimano E8000 John Beedham 11 5280 Bosch CX Mountainbiker 12 5020 - jaggysnake 13 4300 Alexbn921 14 3350 Shimano E7000 Jimbob 15 3200 Shimano E8000 Winryn 16 3100 - Streddaz 17 3100 Shimano E8000 steve_sordy 18 3076 Bosch Defmech 19 3000 - kombos 20 2800 Bosch gen2 John Beedham 21 2370 Shimano EP8 steve_sordy
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