Humanbeersponge
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I tend to stick to Goretex for waterproofs. Have an old Gore jacket for the MTB and a Gore Shakedry (to delicate for off-road) which is an unbelievable piece of kit.
You see someone with a new goretex jacket the water runs off it . Doesn't last long like that . Used to say goretex good for about 6 washes . I've got five all bought for hillwalking . I throw nothing away 1986 first one was bought it's twice as thick as the others and a lot more hardwaring . I've never bought in to the reproofing so can't comment. I use a old one if it's really cold on bike and it's so windproof. Most my cycling jackets would be pertex . Trouble I find is when you find one you like they usually change the spec or discontinue it.I've found over the years that all breathable jackets aren't very breathable once wetted out ..,and for that reason I've always gone for pertex ...it's more breathable and yet you do get a little wetter but it's soo much lighter . You don't get cold as it's windproof so it's warm water underneath....
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My friends swear by paramo . I always thought it was too hot for me as I had a smock and I don’t suffer from cold too much. I noticed in cold or rain hill walking if we stopped for something to eat goretex people put on another top Paramo people didn't have to. So yes for Paramo but I get too muddy.I've never found a hardshell jacket that works very well for biking. I use an Endura hardshell if absolutely necessary in the summer, and it's fine but it's sweaty.
For UK winters I can't recommend Paramo enough. A 100% waterproof soft-shell, I just wear it all the time. Ignore their marketing, it's absolutely no good once the temperature is above about 10 degrees, but below that it's incredibly comfortable, well vented, adjustable, and not the slightest bit sweaty despite being 100% waterproof. I wear it with a long sleeved jersey underneath from -5 to +10 and am completely comfortable and dry.
Edited to add: I wear it for about 6 hours of riding a week over the winter, out in all weathers. I ended a six hour ride in Wales in pouring rain in January with a completely dry shirt underneath.
I wash it about every 6 weeks using TechWash, and reproof about every three months with Nikwax proofer. I also have a 15 year old Paramo jacket that would still be fine if the zip wasn't broken, must get that mended. The newer jackets are lighter, which is a mixed blessing.
Expensive, you do need to keep it proofed, but for me nothing else comes close.
Paramo handles the mud better than a hard shell IMO. I do find that I get hot when I stop as I'm relying on the vents to control temperature when moving, but that's probably a +ve not a -ve.My friends swear by paramo . I always thought it was too hot for me as I had a smock and I don’t suffer from cold too much. I noticed in cold or rain hill walking if we stopped for something to eat goretex people put on another top Paramo people didn't have to. So yes for Paramo but I get too muddy.
Trouble is drying or washing something as hi tech as that gear twice a week I don't think it would last . If I was a millionaire and had 7 jackets it wouldn't be a problem.Paramo handles the mud better than a hard shell IMO. I do find that I get hot when I stop as I'm relying on the vents to control temperature when moving, but that's probably a +ve not a -ve.
You can't wash any waterproof jacket twice a week, they'd all die! I hose mine off after the ride, it gets rinse washed every 2-3 weeks, proper washed every 6 weeks or so, and re-proofed every quarter. My older Paramo is 15 I think? The zip's buggered but the jacket's fine.Trouble is drying or washing something as hi tech as that gear twice a week I don't think it would last . If I was a millionaire and had 7 jackets it wouldn't be a problem.
Totally agree I rotate jackets if it's still wet when i want to go out . Not so much mud since I got mudhugger . Roll on summerYou can't wash any waterproof jacket twice a week, they'd all die! I hose mine off after the ride, it gets rinse washed every 2-3 weeks, proper washed every 6 weeks or so, and re-proofed every quarter. My older Paramo is 15 I think? The zip's buggered but the jacket's fine.
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