The left crank arm just fell off

[Anders]

When commuting to work this morning, I noticed that my left pedal was wobbling. I stopped to check, and suddenly had the complete crank arm in my hand

I have a 15km commute to work (into the nearest town), most of it in rural areas. Luckily, I had reached the urban area, so I dropped in at the tire shop where I buy both my motorbike and car tires. I borrowed an Unbrako key and remounted the crank arm. I guess I lost max 5 minutes on the incident.

However, I must say i'm quite surprized that this could happen. The bike is my Haibike with Bosch CX smart system, and it has done approx 550km since i got in in September. Quite a new bike in other words.

When I get home, I will take the crank arm off and inspect it. Is there anything I should do / check before I torque it down to the torque value stated on the screw's head? Should there be any grease on the splines? Anything else? I guess it could be wise to check the other crank arm as well.

 

[RustyMTB]

I found my left crank loose the other day too. I do remove mine regularly for maintenance so it may be my fault but it was a surprise! You could try blue threadlock, enough to bind the thread but not so much that you won't be able to undo it again if needed.

 

[irie]

Put a little grease on the bolts.

Tighten them to the specified torque.

Then after fitting put some nail polish on them as tell tales so you can see if they're loosening.

 

[Anders]

Put a little grease on the bolts.

Tighten them to the specified torque.

Then after fitting put some nail polish on them as tell tales so you can see if they're loosening.

I did what you suggested. Used some copper paste on the threads, torqued to 50 Nm, marked it with Tipp-Ex, as I had no nail polish handy. The Tipp-ex bottle sits by my lathe, I sometimes use it to mark out when working in the lathe.

So then I just have to cast my eye on the markings from time to time. Lets hope the Tipp-Ex doesn't wear off. If it does, I gues I'll have to invest in some nail polish (or ask my wife if she has a spare bottle).

 

[Weeksy]

milwaukee do a nice 'paint pen' designed for this job, doesn't come off in rain etc... yellow or white. I use yellow on the DH bike bolts.

 

[Bndit]

Put a little grease on the bolts.

Tighten them to the specified torque.

Then after fitting put some nail polish on them as tell tales so you can see if they're loosening.

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This is correct, grease to the bolt and then correct torque. It's almost impossible to get ISIS crank to fall off if this is done right.

 

[irie]

I did what you suggested. Used some copper paste on the threads, torqued to 50 Nm, marked it with Tipp-Ex, as I had no nail polish handy. The Tipp-ex bottle sits by my lathe, I sometimes use it to mark out when working in the lathe.

So then I just have to cast my eye on the markings from time to time. Lets hope the Tipp-Ex doesn't wear off. If it does, I gues I'll have to invest in some nail polish (or ask my wife if she has a spare bottle).

My problem with selecting the nail polish was which of my wife's colours to choose. Was a bit tricky tbh

 

[Weeksy]

Wtf, Mrs Weeksy has hers in colour order. She has 3 of these!!!!

 

[irie]

Wtf, Mrs Weeksy has hers in colour order. She has 3 of these!!!!

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If those ^^^ are in "colour order" then you and/or your Mrs needs to go to Specsavers

 

[Weeksy]

Lol that was just a representation from internet, not her actual boxes

 

[Desert_Turtle]

Don’t you guys occasionally check all the bolts on your bikes? I probably go over my bikes every 2-3 rides and make sure particular bolts are snug. It takes less than 5 minutes. I check my axles, seat clamp, brakes, derailleur, suspension pivots, and sometimes the stem. All you need is 3 hex wrenches….4,5, & 6mm.

 

[RickBullotta]

Don’t you guys occasionally check all the bolts on your bikes? I probably go over my bikes every 2-3 rides and make sure particular bolts are snug. It takes less than 5 minutes. I check my axles, seat clamp, brakes, derailleur, suspension pivots, and sometimes the stem. All you need is 3 hex wrenches….4,5, & 6mm.

If you're not using a torque wrench, you're doing it wrong...

 

[Anders]

Don’t you guys occasionally check all the bolts on your bikes? I probably go over my bikes every 2-3 rides and make sure particular bolts are snug. It takes less than 5 minutes. I check my axles, seat clamp, brakes, derailleur, suspension pivots, and sometimes the stem. All you need is 3 hex wrenches….4,5, & 6mm.

No, I must admit that I don't.
I assumed a brand new bike would have been assembled correctly, meaning the bolts had been torqued to spec.

On the other hand, I have always done my own wrenching on my motorbikes and have never experienced things falling off.
As this is my first e-bike, I just assumed I was safe until I started replacing parts.
But I obviously was wrong, I now understand that I have to check all bolts that I haven't yet touched myself.

 

[Plummet]

No, I must admit that I don't.
I assumed a brand new bike would have been assembled correctly, meaning the bolts had been torqued to spec.

On the other hand, I have always done my own wrenching on my motorbikes and have never experienced things falling off.
As this is my first e-bike, I just assumed I was safe until I started replacing parts.
But I obviously was wrong, I now understand that I have to check all bolts that I haven't yet touched myself.

Yep, wrong assumption.

Shit comes loose particularly on new bikes and rotating components.

Every new weeks do a bolt check. It only takes 5 mins to throw and Allen key into a hole and see if its unduly loose.

 

[Plummet]

No, I must admit that I don't.
I assumed a brand new bike would have been assembled correctly, meaning the bolts had been torqued to spec.

On the other hand, I have always done my own wrenching on my motorbikes and have never experienced things falling off.
As this is my first e-bike, I just assumed I was safe until I started replacing parts.
But I obviously was wrong, I now understand that I have to check all bolts that I haven't yet touched myself.

Yep, wrong assumption.

Shit comes loose particularly on new bikes and rotating components.

Every new weeks do a bolt check. It only takes 5 mins to throw and Allen key into a hole and see if its unduly loose.

 

[Hattori-Hanzo]

Paint pens are only a couple of quid and won't come off in the rain/washing the bike.

I put a single dot at 12 o'clock on all suspension and linkage bolts and a witness mark on the crank arm bolts.
I've had a few bolts come loose and this makes it super easy and quick to check if any are working loose.

 

[Desert_Turtle]

If you're not using a torque wrench, you're doing it wrong...

If you're not using a torque wrench, you're doing it wrong...

I definitely torque certain things to spec. I have several different tools that I use….i have park t-handles with certain torque settings and more than one actual torque wrenches. I love my tools.

 

[irie]

I definitely torque certain things to spec. I have several different tools that I use….i have park t-handles with certain torque settings and more than one actual torque wrenches. I love my tools.

I torque everything to spec.

The reason is that engineers know better than me when specifying torque settings.

 

[E-MAD MALC]

When I've purchased crank bolts they've always come with blue thread locker on them and still torque them up regularly never had problems

 

[Plummet]

Paint pens are only a couple of quid and won't come off in the rain/washing the bike.

I put a single dot at 12 o'clock on all suspension and linkage bolts and a witness mark on the crank arm bolts.
I've had a few bolts come loose and this makes it super easy and quick to check if any are working loose.

I'd have dots all over my bike if I used paint pen every time I did something up.....

 

[Hattori-Hanzo]

I'd have dots all over my bike if I used paint pen every time I did something up.....

Indeed, but they are only the size of a pin head so unless you're really looking you won't notice them.
Not like in the motorcycle industry where they put a great big line across all bolts.

They are good as a quick visual check when out on the trails though

 

[Weeksy]

Don’t you guys occasionally check all the bolts on your bikes? I probably go over my bikes every 2-3 rides and make sure particular bolts are snug. It takes less than 5 minutes. I check my axles, seat clamp, brakes, derailleur, suspension pivots, and sometimes the stem. All you need is 3 hex wrenches….4,5, & 6mm.

Every few rides in trail bikes.

DH bike gets bolt checked at lunch on race/practice days and a check in evening if back to back days.