2022+ Turbo Levo Suspension and Coil shocks for Gen 3 - Fox 38 vs Zeb

[ebikerider]

interesting ill have another read then. 550lbs (was on 500lbs before fitting the cascade)

@90kg the 550lb spring is probably not enough imo. eg Ohlins recommend a 640lb spring for a 90kg rider on the standard linkage and the link needs about another 10% to work correctly so you could just be running super soft which might feel like a flexy back end.

 

[SteveRS]

At about 175 lbs I don’t notice any flex in the back of the bike. This bike is noticeably stiffer than my 2021 Trek Remedy in fact. I would check all the pivot bolts to ensure they are tight if you haven’t. As you probably know, air shocks are generally better suited for heavier riders and may help stiffen up the back end.

 

[mike172]

Just an opinion, its not like I'm riding a salmon with its tail flapping about everywhere its just got some flex in it that's all, there's nothing wrong with the bike. No secret they eat coil shocks is it.


Further rides out on the Cascade link, it honestly just feels like you'd expect. Ramps up a bit more toward the end of its travel, I'd say the small bump is improved slightly, there's a little extra travel and there's a more bottomless feel to it. Nothing ground breaking. Wish I'd not wasted my money on one.

 

[Mike640]

Just an opinion, its not like I'm riding a salmon with its tail flapping about everywhere its just got some flex in it that's all, there's nothing wrong with the bike. No secret they eat coil shocks is it.


Further rides out on the Cascade link, it honestly just feels like you'd expect. Ramps up a bit more toward the end of its travel, I'd say the small bump is improved slightly, there's a little extra travel and there's a more bottomless feel to it. Nothing ground breaking. Wish I'd not wasted my money on one.

Do you have the simple link or the long shock kit?

 

[mike172]

Do you have the simple link or the long shock kit?

Simple

 

[Mike640]

Simple

I think that the long kit makes more sense for hard hitting..

 

[SteveRS]

I have the regular link and find it exactly what I was looking for. Better bottom out resistance, better traction and more travel. Keep in mind I’m not a heavy rider at 175, and wasn’t bottoming out all the time easily. So for the average rider the link is exactly what’s needed. For someone heavier looking for a dramatic change, this isn’t the answer.

 

[Teephud]

Fitted

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Any issue with fitting a large water bottle? It looks like there won’t be, but want to make sure.

 

[maramouse]

Hi, a few days ago I sent an email to Rockshox asking if I can use their coil shock, today they replied:

Henry (RockShox)

Oct 10, 2022, 11:32 CDT

Hi Paulo, thank you for reaching out.

This is possible using a RockShox shock but with a very important caveat. We have only one shock in our lineup that makes this possible by running a special steel lower eyelet that offers the strength required to run on the yoke-style linkage featured on your Turbo Levo. I must emphasize that the below part number is the only coil shock in our lineup that is compatible with your bike. Running any other coil could void the warranty of both your frame and shock.

• 00.4118.359.045 - RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate RC2T - 210X55Steel Shaft,ProgReb/L1Comp,320lbLock,HydraulicBottomOut,NoBushingStandard,90Deg(8x20)(SpringSoldSeparate)B1SpecializedLevoSL 2022

 

[jacksonlui]

Wow, finally caught up . took a while to read this thread. I'm a new Levo Gen3 alloy comp owner and found the stock shock (Float X) to be ok but the fork (fox 36 rythm) needs to go. I'm going to try the mezzer pro in the future and I'm having good luck with it on my revel rail 29. I also have a push shock on the rail and had wanted one for the Levo but was worried about putting a coil on a bike with 20% progressivity (195lb riding weight). The float x is pretty good for what it is and will help with making the bike lively being such a heavy bike. Perhaps spending money on other things might net better returns (bigger dropper, brakes, and axs dearailleur). Having said that, I'm still interested in putting a Push coil on this. I have faith in their development team and I'm expecting the same transformative experience as my last 2 push coils.

 

[Ou812]

Wow, finally caught up . took a while to read this thread. I'm a new Levo Gen3 alloy comp owner and found the stock shock (Float X) to be ok but the fork (fox 36 rythm) needs to go. I'm going to try the mezzer pro in the future and I'm having good luck with it on my revel rail 29. I also have a push shock on the rail and had wanted one for the Levo but was worried about putting a coil on a bike with 20% progressivity (195lb riding weight). The float x is pretty good for what it is and will help with making the bike lively being such a heavy bike. Perhaps spending money on other things might net better returns (bigger dropper, brakes, and axs dearailleur). Having said that, I'm still interested in putting a Push coil on this. I have faith in their development team and I'm expecting the same transformative experience as my last 2 push coils.

I’m a huge Push fan, run them on both my SB150 and 130. I was going to order one for my Levo but I’ve seen some pretty bad reviews, apparently it’s not all the great on the Levo. If I remember right there’s a few users on here that sent theirs back. Everyone has said the same thing, it’s great as long as you don’t push it hard, as soon as you do it bottoms out way too easy. The only way to keep it from bottoming out was a heavier spring but by the time you get a heavy enough spring it’s way too stiff.

 

[jacksonlui]

I’m a huge Push fan, run them on both my SB150 and 130. I was going to order one for my Levo but I’ve seen some pretty bad reviews, apparently it’s not all the great on the Levo. If I remember right there’s a few users on here that sent theirs back. Everyone has said the same thing, it’s great as long as you don’t push it hard, as soon as you do it bottoms out way too easy. The only way to keep it from bottoming out was a heavier spring but by the time you get a heavy enough spring it’s way too stiff.

I agree with what you've said. The Levo has 20% progressivity, not really ideal for a coil. The only workaround is a firmer bob and perhaps a more progressive circuit but it's a workaround, not really worth it. I don't like the X2 that much and luckily the float x is not bad. I probably would get a bigger improvement with a better fork. With the motor being so heavy, it really adds good stability to the ride.
I need to also figure out how to integrate good night lights to the unused plug in the motor connectors. There are other threads where people have successfully done so. The Ibis Oso has integrated lights and it's really neat. I think Levo owners should have the same niceties as well.

 

[ebikerider]

I’m a huge Push fan, run them on both my SB150 and 130. I was going to order one for my Levo but I’ve seen some pretty bad reviews, apparently it’s not all the great on the Levo. If I remember right there’s a few users on here that sent theirs back. Everyone has said the same thing, it’s great as long as you don’t push it hard, as soon as you do it bottoms out way too easy. The only way to keep it from bottoming out was a heavier spring but by the time you get a heavy enough spring it’s way too stiff.

Really not sure if it’s just Levo specific with the Push shocks. IME they are good at trail speeds but as soon as they are ridden hard they just don’t keep up and become harsh. This is based not only on my experience on two different bikes but friends with the shocks on different bikes again. Each person has to go up at least two spring rates to get support then the harshness starts.

I was starting to think I was expecting too much out of my shocks but recently found a tuner that built me a shock that completely fulfilled the brief and now I have the most active, supportive and grip inducing coil that I could wish for and on a bike with only just over 20% progression so this has only supported my view on Push coils. They seem to suit some riders really well and they provide good service if you don’t ask to stray from what they think the settings should be but ultimately they don’t suit everyone. IMO there are better shocks out there for less money.

 

[Ou812]

Really not sure if it’s just Levo specific with the Push shocks. IME they are good at trail speeds but as soon as they are ridden hard they just don’t keep up and become harsh. This is based not only on my experience on two different bikes but friends with the shocks on different bikes again. Each person has to go up at least two spring rates to get support then the harshness starts.

I was starting to think I was expecting too much out of my shocks but recently found a tuner that built me a shock that completely fulfilled the brief and now I have the most active, supportive and grip inducing coil that I could wish for and on a bike with only just over 20% progression so this has only supported my view on Push coils. They seem to suit some riders really well and they provide good service if you don’t ask to stray from what they think the settings should be but ultimately they don’t suit everyone. IMO there are better shocks out there for less money.

I should say I hated my 11-6s the way they came directly from Push. I sent the damper back, moved up a size in weight and went with a lower spring rate. Then adjusted everything back to “0” and started over. I have none of their “tuning” left other than the damper. My understanding is they have set dampers based on weight range, so me at 165lbs riding weight got the same damper as someone with a 120lb riding weight. I was at the top end of the lowest weight damper but Push didn’t recommend moving up to the next damper, I did and it anyway and it’s been way better for me. Luckily, I got the the hook up and didn’t pay full price for either of mine. I got them at dealer cost so for me the money wasn’t an issue but I would have been pissed at full price.

 

[Ou812]

I agree with what you've said. The Levo has 20% progressivity, not really ideal for a coil. The only workaround is a firmer bob and perhaps a more progressive circuit but it's a workaround, not really worth it. I don't like the X2 that much and luckily the float x is not bad. I probably would get a bigger improvement with a better fork. With the motor being so heavy, it really adds good stability to the ride.
I need to also figure out how to integrate good night lights to the unused plug in the motor connectors. There are other threads where people have successfully done so. The Ibis Oso has integrated lights and it's really neat. I think Levo owners should have the same niceties as well.

Just out of curiosity, I checked Push’s website, they no longer offer the 11-6 for the Levo. Only Specialized bikes on the list now are the enduro and the kenevo SL.

 

[philn]

I would recommend you try a 650lb Spring. I work for United States EXT distributor so I am obviously a bit bias but the feedback we have gotten from people running the e-storia on the Levo has been pretty amazing. I am running one on the newest Norco Sight VLT that I have also ran the Arma on and the e-storia definitely has a noticeable increase in performance over the V3 platform. I think the negative spring helps quite a bit.

Hi,

I just purchased a Specialized Turbo Levo and want to install the Cascade Long Shock Kit (link).

Will a 230×65mm E-Storia be okay to safely install on a 2022 Levo with a Cascade Long Shock kit?

I am 195lbs with gear. On average, I ride 7.5 / 10 aggressively.

 

[Ou812]

Hi,

I just purchased a Specialized Turbo Levo and want to install the Cascade Long Shock Kit (link).

Will a 230×65mm E-Storia be okay to safely install on a 2022 Levo with a Cascade Long Shock kit?

I am 195lbs with gear. On average, I ride 7.5 / 10 aggressively.

I’m running the regular EXT Storia with the regular cascade link with no issues. I had the shock retuned by Mojo for the link and bike, it’s been pretty damn good so far. I would have went with the e-storia but I already had a brand new storia that was never used from another bike. I’d imagine it would be the same with long link kit if the shock is tuned for the link.

 

[xraycer]

Push have an actuell recall

link

 

[Ou812]

Push have an actuell recall
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link

That explains why they’re not listed on the site anymore. It looks like the shock shaft is thicker too, could be my eyes playing tricks on me though.

 

[xraycer]

... It looks like the shock shaft is thicker too, ...

I ordered an 11.6 for the Levo Gen3 three weeks ago. The dealer told me the delivery time would be 8-10 weeks, or more, because the shaft was revised and the damper is now being tested.

 

[Ou812]

I ordered an 11.6 for the Levo Gen3 three weeks ago. The dealer told me the delivery time would be 8-10 weeks, or more, because the shaft was revised and the damper is now being tested.

I’d cancel and go with the E-Storia, you could have it in a week depending on where you’re at.

 

[jacksonlui]

At least they test it thoroughly before selling them.

 

[ebikerider]

At least they test it thoroughly before selling them.

lol you mean they didn't the first time so this time they have to make sure it's not going to break.

 

[rzr]

Hi, I have an option to buy
2021 float x2 fs, K, 2-pos-adj, fox, am, 210 55, CL, RM, Rezi BV3
I understand:
F-S: factory - kashima
K: ?
2pos-adj: climb switch (2 positions), but is it adjustable ?
FOX: ?
AM: ?
210 55: these are dimensions
CL: compression light
RM: rebound medium
Rezi BV3: ?


and at the end question, will it work well with Specialized Turbo Levo gen3? (2022-23) ?

What are best tunes for Levo Gen3 ? (aggresive riding)
and what are best settings for RockShox (compression/rebound tune)

 

[SteveRS]

The new Rockshox Super deluxe ultimate coil with hydraulic bottom out might be a good option for the GEN three. Have a look.

 

[Mcharza]

Yes, but only the steel shaft version.

 

[upperoso]

Yes, but only the steel shaft version.

There's no mention of steel as far as I can tell. Nice to have? Yes. Required? I do not know. The shaft diameter? A right-sized steel shaft would be one that increases durability/longevity. At the same time, right-sized aluminum shaft might work for many... don't want to count this one out, yet.

 

[Ou812]

There's no mention of steel as far as I can tell. Nice to have? Yes. Required? I do not know. The shaft diameter? A right-sized steel shaft would be one that increases durability/longevity. At the same time, right-sized aluminum shaft might work for many... don't want to count this one out, yet.

There’s a specific part number that SRAM says to use with the Levo, it has a steel shaft. It’s the only one that they’ll warranty if you have issues.

00.4118.359.045 is the one you want, nobody seems to have it in stock either. It’s a special order deal as far as I can tell.

 

[jbodnar]

The new Rockshox Super deluxe ultimate coil with hydraulic bottom out might be a good option for the GEN three. Have a look.

I’m risking the weak shaft (mostly do XC type riding) on my gen 2 Levo, also got a Sprindex, but don’t have a ride on it yet.

I didn’t change the factory HBO setting…it hasn’t bottomed out yet (no harsh bottom out).

I’m curious if the shaft can be “upgraded” during maintenance/service…

 

[upperoso]

There’s a specific part number that SRAM says to use with the Levo, it has a steel shaft. It’s the only one that they’ll warranty if you have issues.

00.4118.359.045 is the one you want, nobody seems to have it in stock either. It’s a special order deal as far as I can tell.

I get it. Slow learner The shock may be e-bike ready, but this is not the same as Turbo Levo Gen 3 ready. Thanks!