Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread
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Hitorogoshi
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So running this Levo with long chainstays, does this not lower (and therefore slacken it slightly) as it did in Gen 3?
I know there’s a separate setting on the shock yoke that will lower it, but I’m looking at the bikes I don’t see how those chainstays can lengthen without it dropping the bike at all
I pick my Pro up in about 2 weeks!
I know there’s a separate setting on the shock yoke that will lower it, but I’m looking at the bikes I don’t see how those chainstays can lengthen without it dropping the bike at all
I pick my Pro up in about 2 weeks!
GDAS
Active member
here's your answer (apparently it drops the BB 'a ton')So running this Levo with long chainstays, does this not lower (and therefore slacken it slightly) as it did in Gen 3?
I know there’s a separate setting on the shock yoke that will lower it, but I’m looking at the bikes I don’t see how those chainstays can lengthen without it dropping the bike at all
I pick my Pro up in about 2 weeks!
When I was in the bike shop Thursday just gone having my Levo SL attended to, I got to have a good look at the Gen 4s they had on display (a Specialized store).
I have to say, they looked great, and I say this as somebody who isn’t a Specialized ’fan-boi’ also owning a Marin and Focus ebike with Bosch and Shimano motors respectively.
Yes, the down tube is big, yes they felt a bit heavy in the pick it up and squish it up and down test, but all the colours I saw (including the burnt orange which I think was my favourite) looked nice in the flesh.
I had my daughter with me and time didn’t allow for a test ride anyway, but I’m certainly interested in having an extended test ride at some point. A guy who’d just purchased one was in having something adjusted, and whilst he’s hardly likely to diss his new ride, he did say that the new motor felt really good and the weight wasn’t a thing once it was being ridden which is my recollection of my Gen 3 alloy also, itself not a lightweight.
They are pretty expensive though, but they are also available and will be supported properly if such things are important to you.
I have to say, they looked great, and I say this as somebody who isn’t a Specialized ’fan-boi’ also owning a Marin and Focus ebike with Bosch and Shimano motors respectively.
Yes, the down tube is big, yes they felt a bit heavy in the pick it up and squish it up and down test, but all the colours I saw (including the burnt orange which I think was my favourite) looked nice in the flesh.
I had my daughter with me and time didn’t allow for a test ride anyway, but I’m certainly interested in having an extended test ride at some point. A guy who’d just purchased one was in having something adjusted, and whilst he’s hardly likely to diss his new ride, he did say that the new motor felt really good and the weight wasn’t a thing once it was being ridden which is my recollection of my Gen 3 alloy also, itself not a lightweight.
They are pretty expensive though, but they are also available and will be supported properly if such things are important to you.
and if you like the reviewer himself - some are nice guys and some are dicks, right?
retrograde
Member
For sure. Being fairly new here, I find it helpful to look at a person's post history to see what they're about.
electricbogaloo
Active member
The by far best reviewer is the guy from Velomotion. In depth, no bullshit, knowledgeable, covering everything in detail.
retrograde
Member
Agreed. Among the YouTube reviewers, he's very data-driven which as an engineer, I appreciate.
Also appreciated his translating of the original German video on the new motor into English. It's amazing how well the AI translator modified his face/mouth movements to make it look like he was originally speaking English (but you can see his hands sometimes flicker/disappear when they're near his face):
Monstermax4
Member
Did you have to get a different chain? Was shifting with transmission affected by this?
WatermanJim
Active member
Safety tip- Don't spray the derailleur directly with water and expect to have it shift moments later. It short circuted the hot shoe and worked again after drying and turning on and off the bike. keep a spare battery around until they seal this connector properly. I'm thinking a recall might be necessary to replace the part with one that has a gasket.
On the positive side my 110 lb daughter just crushed 20miles on my S4 expert with no problem except picking up the fatboy over big logs. So the weight was not as issue for her and she loved her first ride on an ebike and we went up and down some of the gnarliest stuff in the Philly area. Point is, if you are a strong and skilled rider the weight is no problem. yes you can feel the extra 3lbs picking it up but the bike rides better than before so kudos to the engineers at specialized.
now get back to work. hahaha.
On the positive side my 110 lb daughter just crushed 20miles on my S4 expert with no problem except picking up the fatboy over big logs. So the weight was not as issue for her and she loved her first ride on an ebike and we went up and down some of the gnarliest stuff in the Philly area. Point is, if you are a strong and skilled rider the weight is no problem. yes you can feel the extra 3lbs picking it up but the bike rides better than before so kudos to the engineers at specialized.
now get back to work. hahaha.
Albertocsoares
Active member
Check if the energy conector is ok, yesterday I rode my Gen4 Expert for more than 1 hour under a tropical storm and did not have any problem shifting.Safety tip- Don't spray the derailleur directly with water and expect to have it shift moments later. It short circuted the hot shoe and worked again after drying and turning on and off the bike. keep a spare battery around until they seal this connector properly. I'm thinking a recall might be necessary to replace the part with one that has a gasket.
On the positive side my 110 lb daughter just crushed 20miles on my S4 expert with no problem except picking up the fatboy over big logs. So the weight was not as issue for her and she loved her first ride on an ebike and we went up and down some of the gnarliest stuff in the Philly area. Point is, if you are a strong and skilled rider the weight is no problem. yes you can feel the extra 3lbs picking it up but the bike rides better than before so kudos to the engineers at specialized.
now get back to work. hahaha.
Can anyone with an S5 or S6 comment on the stability for fast DH stuff? 435mm/444mm might be a deal breaker for me. I’m very surprised they don’t have size specific chainstays - it’s standard on modern bikes, especially at this price.
I was deciding between this, Bullit and E-Druid but the short CS might have made my choice easier. Disappointed, as I’ve had good experiences on previous Spec bikes.
I was deciding between this, Bullit and E-Druid but the short CS might have made my choice easier. Disappointed, as I’ve had good experiences on previous Spec bikes.
No issues with the power Shoe so far. As you described riding it is a new LevelSafety tip- Don't spray the derailleur directly with water and expect to have it shift moments later. It short circuted the hot shoe and worked again after drying and turning on and off the bike. keep a spare battery around until they seal this connector properly. I'm thinking a recall might be necessary to replace the part with one that has a gasket.
On the positive side my 110 lb daughter just crushed 20miles on my S4 expert with no problem except picking up the fatboy over big logs. So the weight was not as issue for her and she loved her first ride on an ebike and we went up and down some of the gnarliest stuff in the Philly area. Point is, if you are a strong and skilled rider the weight is no problem. yes you can feel the extra 3lbs picking it up but the bike rides better than before so kudos to the engineers at specialized.
now get back to work. hahaha.
Overall is the geo good, but like said at this price point size specific CS should be.
The short CS is definitely a drawback for someone that really likes climbing on an ebike.
The CS length the bike has 435/444 will be fine for up to S3, maybe for some on S4, but will especially be detrimental for guys riding the S5 or S6 frame bikes uphill. The front will get really light on steep climbs.
The short CS is definitely a drawback for someone that really likes climbing on an ebike.
The CS length the bike has 435/444 will be fine for up to S3, maybe for some on S4, but will especially be detrimental for guys riding the S5 or S6 frame bikes uphill. The front will get really light on steep climbs.
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Eduardoramundo
E*POWAH Master
I have had two S5 Gen3’s which have a chain stay length of 442mm and they ride/climb just fine.
I cant see 444mm being a problem.
The S5 Levo SL1 I rode which had 435mm chainstay’s was too short, but that had different overall Geo.
You can’t rely on just one figure, and need to take into account the overall Geo working together.
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Yes I agree up to an 8% average incline it will be just fine.
The really steep lines, blocked uphill, etc... is where the difference is going to be evident, that's why I emphasized 》the people that really like climbs《, sorry should have been more specific.
My bike has a 27,5 rear with a 454 CS, thrust me when you cross a certain incline %, there is a big difference on how easy it is to handle a long CS bike uphill vs one with a short CS, yes you might do it with a shorter CS, but it's way way easier on one with a longer CS.
Touching on the ride quality, yes any bike rides fine when you get dialed into the geo that it has, but the one where you are more centered in the bike(size specific CS) is way easier to adapt to and handle from the first get go because in needs less of your weight shifting. Also onwards it's more forgiving to your riding mistakes etc..., IMO size specific CS makes sense. As said, at this price point one would expect this to be an option at least for the top two models maybe. That's my opinion, no offense
freddok
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In same time it's the Santa Cruz skateboards brand logo, so...
electricbogaloo
Active member
Life hack: never spray your ebike with water and don't have issues with stuff like that. They are just not hermetically sealed to water ingress. Doing so would drive costs, weight up and range down.Safety tip- Don't spray the derailleur directly with water and expect to have it shift moments later. It short circuted the hot shoe and worked again after drying and turning on and off the bike. keep a spare battery around until they seal this connector properly. I'm thinking a recall might be necessary to replace the part with one that has a gasket.
On the positive side my 110 lb daughter just crushed 20miles on my S4 expert with no problem except picking up the fatboy over big logs. So the weight was not as issue for her and she loved her first ride on an ebike and we went up and down some of the gnarliest stuff in the Philly area. Point is, if you are a strong and skilled rider the weight is no problem. yes you can feel the extra 3lbs picking it up but the bike rides better than before so kudos to the engineers at specialized.
now get back to work. hahaha.
Don't be anxious about having a dirty bike that works.
I see the long and short option kind of being size-specific
Smaller bike you run short, bigger bike you run long… you’ve the option depending on preference, I don’t see them needing to be a fixed size specific length from the factory when this does the same job.
Smaller bike you run short, bigger bike you run long… you’ve the option depending on preference, I don’t see them needing to be a fixed size specific length from the factory when this does the same job.
I’m going for S5 this time, my gen3 is S4 and it’s always from new being that bit too small (I’m 183cm)
I rode an S4 and S5 gen4 and the new S4 felt a fair bit shorter than my current bike and the new S5 felt perfect, I plan on running it in the long chainstays.
I rode an S4 and S5 gen4 and the new S4 felt a fair bit shorter than my current bike and the new S5 felt perfect, I plan on running it in the long chainstays.
I see your point, it would probably work for a limited range(incline) of ride options, definitely not somewhere mountainous.
A 445ish CS is considered short, maybe borderline medium CS.
If you have an option try climbing(a serious uphill 10%+ average)on two similar ebikes with approximately same power/torque, one cca 445mm the other cca 455mm CS or more, I am pretty certain you will feel/see a difference.
The issue with people thinking 445 being a long CS is because the recent years mullet 27,5 flickable and popy rear becoming popular and the masses beging for it not being aware of the downsides the industry was pushing the bikes to extremely short CS(430ish) across sizes and at the same time pushing reach numbers.
The consequence being bikes becoming completely unbalanced in the bigger sizes where u needed to push your weight foward to generate front end grip...etc...could continue with slacker angle making it even worse etc.
For the manufacturers it's easier and cheaper to do it this way of course, an unbalanced bike requires attention, buying more cockpit parts or suspension to get it dialed in benefits the industry.
A balanced bike out of the shop is cheaper, much easier, forgiving, setup free and fun to ride from the first day.
What I will give to the new Levo is the 3 way adaptability option, that will probably make most people happy Enough not complain to much, but for those that ride in extremes it will still be lacking.
Power1tobe
Active member
Nope, did not effect the transmission and no new chain required.
Power1tobe
Active member
Can't comment on a S-5/6, but I did config my S-3 into the long and it did feel more stable on the DHs in the chop. I will say what I did feel I noticed more on the DHs was the weight, and I understand why the bike has those massive Mavens. I was in the process of writing up my own personal review of the bike from the perspective of a normal MTBr with tons of experience on non-electric.
I wonder what the reason is for them to shorten them so much then?
If you look at a new Bullit in L, it’s chainstays are fixed at 446, so near as damn it the same as the Levo in Long.
In XL they’re only 449 so still not a million miles away from the Levo.. it’s wheelbase is also longer than a S5 Levo in Long by 14mm. So proportionately it’s probably about the same.
I do fully agree it’s cheaper and easier for them to do it the way they have, but I genuinely don’t see it being an issue.
All my riding is big climbs, often techy and my old Levo with 442 chainstays never had an issue lifting the front up, although I never climb in the high modes.
Power1tobe
Active member
I waited to write this review until I got enough time on the bike in a variety of terrain and normal ride conditions before posting. Unlike most of the reviews I have read here, I have had very limited experience with eMTBs but over 25 years of MTBing and even more on the road. As for brand loyalty, I would say I have none, looking for the best performance for the best price. I currently ride specialized as its my LBS and well I haven’t had many issues, so when considering and eMTB the Levo was an easy choice do to it pedigree and well I have an amazing relationship with the store. Also, I am coming to eMTBs due to an ongoing injury that has plagued me for the past 2 years which is exasperated by intense riding (which I know no other way to ride). So, the idea was get an eMTB to cut my own power output to break the circle of injury. So here is my unbiased / unique review…
I end up purchasing an s-works (red) model not because I wanted or needed that level bike, but because during my prep and research I had allocated the cost of a Pro model and the prices were cheaper than previous year models (people really have short term memory of prices, the previous S-Works was $15K in the USA).
-Looks: Yes that downtube is huge and it collects a ton of dirt and mud. But to me the overall aesthetics of the bike are as good as any eMTB out there minus the trade off of the downtube. At the end of the day looks to me aren’t as important as performance, but I understand the minimalist approach to life.
-Weight: Ya its heavy. When I compare it to my MTB that weighs 27lbs, it’s a pig. But as an engineer I knew a full powered eMTB was going to be heavy. Could they have made design choices that would have shaved weight, most likely. Is it heavier than other eMTBs, yes and it seems like the number one complaint. But I have chosen to have an open mind about this reality of eMTBs, they are heavier… a lot heavier. After riding MTX for years all these bikes seem light, so performance and how you ride is key. People, riding an eMTB is not the same as riding a MTB. At low speeds the weight is noticeable and if your lacking basic skills of balance it will be magnified especially without knowledge of how to mate the bikes power to generate balance (MTX type skills). I found it effortless to suspend the bike in tight turns under power. The weight became irrelevant once you got up to speed on the flats. The biggest influences of weight for me were with line selection and in the downhills both due to inertia (influenced by weight). With line selection you will inevitability find yourself going faster in sections of trail than previously on a normal MTB. Because of the speed and added weight you need to be careful about cheating or cutting those turns and if you find yourself to far out on the edge you will find other weight related issue (edges collapsing). In the DHs, you can just feel that weight pulling you and the need to break sooner or possibility overshoot (hence those big breaks). As a whole I can say the weight wasn’t a major factor and more of an adjustment as the bike is very well balanced and grounded especially in the Long chainstay.
-Power: The conversation of more power has always been lost on me. Since I am the type of rider that enjoys the pain that comes from pedaling hard and the power achieved, the idea of free crazy power is congruent to why I ride in the first place. So when I saw the posts about other bikes having more and wishing this bike was similar, I wasn’t so sure what to say as I have so little eMTB experience. But after riding this bike I am at an even bigger loss, in Trail mode (50/100) this bike offers more power than 80% of riders can produce on their own. I pressed this bike up root infested / rut encrusted trails at 26% inclines with ease, trails I am proud to claim I have cleaned on a normal MTB. But being fair, I do see applications like climbing fire roads and shuttling as a reason for high power. Getting up faster to go down more times is a mentality I can embrace. I did test Turbo (without shuttle) on a fire road climb that is about a ½ mike long and 20% grade and was able to hold around 18mph. For reference I was producing 300+ watts for the entire climb and saw the bike was producing peaks in 60+watt range (How many ppl can hold 1000watts for 2-3 mins?). That to me is a crazy amount of power for any average person to hold. I also imagine I could still go faster if I had it in shuttle, so what I am saying I wasn’t disappointed by the power. I understand people want power but I also feel there is a point where we go from a MTBing experience to a MTX experience (and it’s not a twist of the throttle). But just my opinion and to each their own. But the concerns people have shared of laws and regulations kicking in as these levels rise, I feel are well grounded.
Bike handling: As previously stated this bike requires more attention and effort at low speeds where the weight is more a factor. To the people that argue over a 4-5 lbs, it’s a minor concern and not this crazy issue some would have you believe (unless you’re a pro rider). As I related, your AMFLOW is still 20lbs heavier than my current MTB, so let’s get real about MTBs vs. eMTBs. Over 20-30miles of riding 5 lbs will add up, as you will be working harder to balance and steer that bike. But remember you’re working much less on those hard techy climbs with that motor humming. Once this bike is up to speed it handles exactly like my normal bike. The 38 + Gennie soaks up the terrain, and once dialed I was extremely impressed at smoothness of the pairing (hats off to the suspension engineers). I was surprised how easy and smoothly it left and returned to the ground on jumps, honestly never expected that considering it takes way more effort to hop a log. I have seen the question asked does the long chainstay lower the bike, so I did not measure but from my rides the bike does seem lower than my regular MTB (i.e. hoping logs and rocks). Previously mentioned you can feel that weight on the DHs, not detrimental to ride performance but makes you more aware you need to break sooner / harder if you’re rolling. Which brings me to those breaks, they are great as they have tons of power but that’s catch 22. On the flats if you tap them too hard you really feel how strong they are, causing shutters which could be really bad if applied at the wrong time. For the most part it’s a feel thing, once you get used to them this happens significantly less. The power delivery is smooth and constant and feels incredibly natural. Only minor point is on the initial stroke that can sometimes feel a bit too much out the gate, like doing bike stands is really tricky. If you have the basic skills for MTBing then this bike will amplify your skills to the point where you can easily over those skills. Last point I was surprised by how well the bike at this weight held its line, so that’s a node to the tires or the design of the bike, as it was better than its predecessor.
-Noise: This one will be short; I have seen all these videos on how loud this motor is and was a little worried. Since there can be slight differences in manufacturing one motor to the next can have slight differences. But, there was no knocking / chunks / or rattling sounds. When this bike is on the flats, I could barely hear the motor (whisper quiet), especially in the mid-high range of gearing. When you drop towards that 52 ring and are climbing step you can hear the wine of that motor which isn’t terrible but its noticeable. I have heard way louder.
-Price: Try and make this short, specialized isn’t the cheapest. But at the same time people talking about others being so much cheaper makes me laugh, especially a certain bike that isn’t support in the USA… you know which one. The people that have order thru 3rd parties I wish you all the best of luck it looks like fun. Also the new bike that came out at Sea Otter with same said motor are already sold out and cost as much as the Levo… all I am saying is I took advantage to what was available and has amazing support 5 mins from my house. The best bike is the bike you own because it’s what you have before the next one. So I have no idea if this is the best bike but I can say it’s pretty amazing so far. So if you are on the fence and have the money don’t be, life is short go ride.
Let me know if you have any questions, also I can get 30-40miles on a battery with 3-4k climbing.
Hope this helps someone…
I end up purchasing an s-works (red) model not because I wanted or needed that level bike, but because during my prep and research I had allocated the cost of a Pro model and the prices were cheaper than previous year models (people really have short term memory of prices, the previous S-Works was $15K in the USA).
-Looks: Yes that downtube is huge and it collects a ton of dirt and mud. But to me the overall aesthetics of the bike are as good as any eMTB out there minus the trade off of the downtube. At the end of the day looks to me aren’t as important as performance, but I understand the minimalist approach to life.
-Weight: Ya its heavy. When I compare it to my MTB that weighs 27lbs, it’s a pig. But as an engineer I knew a full powered eMTB was going to be heavy. Could they have made design choices that would have shaved weight, most likely. Is it heavier than other eMTBs, yes and it seems like the number one complaint. But I have chosen to have an open mind about this reality of eMTBs, they are heavier… a lot heavier. After riding MTX for years all these bikes seem light, so performance and how you ride is key. People, riding an eMTB is not the same as riding a MTB. At low speeds the weight is noticeable and if your lacking basic skills of balance it will be magnified especially without knowledge of how to mate the bikes power to generate balance (MTX type skills). I found it effortless to suspend the bike in tight turns under power. The weight became irrelevant once you got up to speed on the flats. The biggest influences of weight for me were with line selection and in the downhills both due to inertia (influenced by weight). With line selection you will inevitability find yourself going faster in sections of trail than previously on a normal MTB. Because of the speed and added weight you need to be careful about cheating or cutting those turns and if you find yourself to far out on the edge you will find other weight related issue (edges collapsing). In the DHs, you can just feel that weight pulling you and the need to break sooner or possibility overshoot (hence those big breaks). As a whole I can say the weight wasn’t a major factor and more of an adjustment as the bike is very well balanced and grounded especially in the Long chainstay.
-Power: The conversation of more power has always been lost on me. Since I am the type of rider that enjoys the pain that comes from pedaling hard and the power achieved, the idea of free crazy power is congruent to why I ride in the first place. So when I saw the posts about other bikes having more and wishing this bike was similar, I wasn’t so sure what to say as I have so little eMTB experience. But after riding this bike I am at an even bigger loss, in Trail mode (50/100) this bike offers more power than 80% of riders can produce on their own. I pressed this bike up root infested / rut encrusted trails at 26% inclines with ease, trails I am proud to claim I have cleaned on a normal MTB. But being fair, I do see applications like climbing fire roads and shuttling as a reason for high power. Getting up faster to go down more times is a mentality I can embrace. I did test Turbo (without shuttle) on a fire road climb that is about a ½ mike long and 20% grade and was able to hold around 18mph. For reference I was producing 300+ watts for the entire climb and saw the bike was producing peaks in 60+watt range (How many ppl can hold 1000watts for 2-3 mins?). That to me is a crazy amount of power for any average person to hold. I also imagine I could still go faster if I had it in shuttle, so what I am saying I wasn’t disappointed by the power. I understand people want power but I also feel there is a point where we go from a MTBing experience to a MTX experience (and it’s not a twist of the throttle). But just my opinion and to each their own. But the concerns people have shared of laws and regulations kicking in as these levels rise, I feel are well grounded.
Bike handling: As previously stated this bike requires more attention and effort at low speeds where the weight is more a factor. To the people that argue over a 4-5 lbs, it’s a minor concern and not this crazy issue some would have you believe (unless you’re a pro rider). As I related, your AMFLOW is still 20lbs heavier than my current MTB, so let’s get real about MTBs vs. eMTBs. Over 20-30miles of riding 5 lbs will add up, as you will be working harder to balance and steer that bike. But remember you’re working much less on those hard techy climbs with that motor humming. Once this bike is up to speed it handles exactly like my normal bike. The 38 + Gennie soaks up the terrain, and once dialed I was extremely impressed at smoothness of the pairing (hats off to the suspension engineers). I was surprised how easy and smoothly it left and returned to the ground on jumps, honestly never expected that considering it takes way more effort to hop a log. I have seen the question asked does the long chainstay lower the bike, so I did not measure but from my rides the bike does seem lower than my regular MTB (i.e. hoping logs and rocks). Previously mentioned you can feel that weight on the DHs, not detrimental to ride performance but makes you more aware you need to break sooner / harder if you’re rolling. Which brings me to those breaks, they are great as they have tons of power but that’s catch 22. On the flats if you tap them too hard you really feel how strong they are, causing shutters which could be really bad if applied at the wrong time. For the most part it’s a feel thing, once you get used to them this happens significantly less. The power delivery is smooth and constant and feels incredibly natural. Only minor point is on the initial stroke that can sometimes feel a bit too much out the gate, like doing bike stands is really tricky. If you have the basic skills for MTBing then this bike will amplify your skills to the point where you can easily over those skills. Last point I was surprised by how well the bike at this weight held its line, so that’s a node to the tires or the design of the bike, as it was better than its predecessor.
-Noise: This one will be short; I have seen all these videos on how loud this motor is and was a little worried. Since there can be slight differences in manufacturing one motor to the next can have slight differences. But, there was no knocking / chunks / or rattling sounds. When this bike is on the flats, I could barely hear the motor (whisper quiet), especially in the mid-high range of gearing. When you drop towards that 52 ring and are climbing step you can hear the wine of that motor which isn’t terrible but its noticeable. I have heard way louder.
-Price: Try and make this short, specialized isn’t the cheapest. But at the same time people talking about others being so much cheaper makes me laugh, especially a certain bike that isn’t support in the USA… you know which one. The people that have order thru 3rd parties I wish you all the best of luck it looks like fun. Also the new bike that came out at Sea Otter with same said motor are already sold out and cost as much as the Levo… all I am saying is I took advantage to what was available and has amazing support 5 mins from my house. The best bike is the bike you own because it’s what you have before the next one. So I have no idea if this is the best bike but I can say it’s pretty amazing so far. So if you are on the fence and have the money don’t be, life is short go ride.
Let me know if you have any questions, also I can get 30-40miles on a battery with 3-4k climbing.
Hope this helps someone…
My attention span is short, could someone provide a summary?
TheSnowShark
Well-known member
retrograde
Member
It does, appreciate your well-written thoughts.
We have a lot in common. 25 years MTB, still putt around on an old Honda XR, engineer, first eMTB. Looking to clip power output peaks to get a little deeper into the backcountry and have energy for other sports after a long day. Just picked up my Expert so not enough rides for an informed opinion. But I can already relate to the comments about low-speed effective weight and will keep your comments in mind as I figure out this ride.
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