Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread

[retrograde]

Here the Pros seem to dig the G4 - yes I know it is marketing but fun to watch.

Axell has his own video from the Temecula shoot. No music so super fun to hear those guys rip it up ... braapp!

 

[WatermanJim]

I’m going for S5 this time, my gen3 is S4 and it’s always from new being that bit too small (I’m 183cm)

I rode an S4 and S5 gen4 and the new S4 felt a fair bit shorter than my current bike and the new S5 felt perfect, I plan on running it in the long chainstays.

yes the new bike seems slightly smaller to me and it feels better cornerning. The gen 3 chainstay is longer but feels the same as the short gen 4 so dont let the numbers hang you up.

Life hack: never spray your ebike with water and don't have issues with stuff like that. They are just not hermetically sealed to water ingress. Doing so would drive costs, weight up and range down.

Don't be anxious about having a dirty bike that works.

Yeah just hosing a extra lb of mud off for my kid, felt stupid after, but i did find a problem for sure.

the water puddles on the top where the wire is and may have gotten inside the thing. not sure.
i think i'm going to apply some silicone sealant there just incase.

 

[WatermanJim]

My attention span is short, could someone provide a summary?

Its better because it corners better. yes its heavy but not a deal breaker. short chainstay is fine.

 

[Myke]

Its better because it corners better. yes its heavy but not a deal breaker. short chainstay is fine.

Thanks!

 

[timo_]

Levo 4 Alloy..

 

[Myke]

Levo 4 Alloy..

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XT brakes?

 

[DirkWisely]

Do we know what the weight premium will be on the alloy version?

 

[emtbeast]

Do we know what the weight premium will be on the alloy version?

The gen 3 was cca 1kg more than the carbon version.

If speced with the 600 it will probably about the same, or a bit more, depending on the fork and wheelset. If with the 840, then we are probably looking at cca 25,5kg

 

[ckkone]

Levo 4 Alloy..

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Wow

 

[Phil M]

So running this Levo with long chainstays, does this not lower (and therefore slacken it slightly) as it did in Gen 3?

I know there’s a separate setting on the shock yoke that will lower it, but I’m looking at the bikes I don’t see how those chainstays can lengthen without it dropping the bike at all

I pick my Pro up in about 2 weeks!

I’ve managed to answer my own question with this looking through the workshop manual.

It seems the long setting lengthens the chainstays by 11mm to 446mm

As thought, it does lower the BB by 12mm to 338mm

It slackens it off a fair bit too…

That will be the perfect setting for me.

 

[jgusta]

 

[jgusta]

From G4 manual…if chain stay in long, place shock in long is well to raise it back up some

 

[retrograde]

Levo 4 Alloy..

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840Wh or the rumored 600Wh battery?

 

[MonsterMX]

I’ve managed to answer my own question with this looking through the workshop manual.

It seems the long setting lengthens the chainstays by 11mm to 446mm

As thought, it does lower the BB by 12mm to 338mm

It slackens it off a fair bit too…

That will be the perfect setting for me.

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I posted some info from review few pages back, it looks like with longer chainstay BB height is even lower than should be.

''In the middle headset setting, low bottom bracket position and long chainstay, I measured my S3 bike's geometry as follows:

• Head angle: 63.7-degrees
• Rear centre: 445mm
• Bottom bracket height: 333mm

The latter is interesting because it is significantly lower than that quoted by Specialized.''

 

[Phil M]

I posted some info from review few pages back, it looks like with longer chainstay BB height is even lower than should be.

''In the middle headset setting, low bottom bracket position and long chainstay, I measured my S3 bike's geometry as follows:

• Head angle: 63.7-degrees
• Rear centre: 445mm
• Bottom bracket height: 333mm

The latter is interesting because it is significantly lower than that quoted by Specialized.''

I’d seen that thanks

Other numbers look bang on the money apart from the BB… good job mine will have those 155 cranks!

Certainly on the bigger sizes, those chainstays will work lovely in long.

Leaving the shock alone will give me a 446 chainstay which is perfect on an S5 imo.

 

[JP-NZ]

So has it been confirmed the 10% price increase for orders after 1st may? Pinkbike seems to think so.

 

[DylanJM]

So has it been confirmed the 10% price increase for orders after 1st may? Pinkbike seems to think so.

Surely this would only apply to US customers? I don't see why the rest of us should pay? Would be a shitty move if they do apply it across the board.

 

[Eduardoramundo]

Surely this would only apply to US customers? I don't see why the rest of us should pay? Would be a shitty move if they do apply it across the board.

The article clearly says increases are North America only.

 

[Biano44]

XT brakes?

Schwalbe tyres?

 

[DylanJM]

I wouldn't take that tester bike's spec as any indication of the final spec.

 

[WatermanJim]

Even with the tariffs the bikes are still $500 less than 4 years ago.
So lets be realistic about pricing. There are not many top of line products that have increased performance with a decrease in price over the same 4 years.

 

[RichMorr]

 

[Eduardoramundo]

They are talking funny. Can’t understand it.

 

[RichMorr]

They are talking funny. Can’t understand it.

Subtitles or transfer the video to chat GPT and ask it to translate it in to English. All you need to do is copy the YouTube link and ask

 

[retrograde]

They are talking funny. Can’t understand it.

Settings > Subtitles > Auto-translate > German (auto-generated) to English

 

[TorAtle]

My question to Spesh would be "as implemented, was the side loading worth it?"

I would be more forgiving of the looks and added weight if we were given a true modular battery setup. 2 sizes, 280Wh and 560Wh. 3 possible in-frame configurations, plus the ability to carry another one in the backback as a range extender. From 280Wh to 1400Wh in total.

 

[electricbogaloo]

The biggest flaw of the implementation is that every buyer is forced to buy the 840wh battery. Even light/fit riders or people who only have not much elevation/time.

If the 600wh would be optional with a discount for first buyers the bike would be considerably lighter and overall a more competitive package.

 

[unclezz]

The biggest flaw of the implementation is that every buyer is forced to buy the 840wh battery. Even light/fit riders or people who only have not much elevation/time.

If the 600wh would be optional with a discount for first buyers the bike would be considerably lighter and overall a more competitive package.

I agree. Honestly with the 700wh battery of the gen3 I never got a full discharge after a single ride. On longer and higher elevation rides (in Dolomite in Italy) I come back home with at least 20/25%, if not more.

For my use case, a 600wh battery would be ideal, maybe to couple with a range extender for very long rides and "just in case". This is what I also do with the SL (gen 1).

 

[RichMorr]

The biggest flaw of the implementation is that every buyer is forced to buy the 840wh battery. Even light/fit riders or people who only have not much elevation/time.

If the 600wh would be optional with a discount for first buyers the bike would be considerably lighter and overall a more competitive package.

I could see this being an option when the battery is released. I wouldn’t be surprised if the all version also came with 600 wh battery due to the cost and weight of the alloy.

 

[NervousFan]

I could see this being an option when the battery is released. I wouldn’t be surprised if the all version also came with 600 wh battery due to the cost and weight of the alloy.

And it will definitely be that way.