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Can you share any experience with the F35? Do you have any comparison to the Fox 38? I don't care about stiffness. How plush is it throughout the stroke?
what did you not understand by me saying it is uncut? it even has the toilet paper roll inbetween.
 
Yes I did order a zeb. 35lbs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm guessing he wants to know since the forks were revealed before sea otter if troydon will ship earlier. Originally, orders with Zebs were to ship after 4/16.

We'll just have to wait and see. I'll get excited once my shipment is in transit. This could all just be Troydon prepping orders. Like his frames, his operations improves after each iteration. I'm sure we'll know more after 4/9, Troydon's very transparent.
Yeah I ordered my fork a couple weeks after I ordered my frame… so just wondering if they are in the same box. Mine says 35lbs too. Might just be the frame…
 
Here is the YouTube link as well, in case it goes live or something sometime soon.

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I didn’t get an email from crestline yet… mine came from FedEx.
 
I didn’t get an email from crestline yet… mine came from FedEx.
It’s in the same email notification from FedEx. The link is there, where it says personal messages.
 
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10% of 300 frames is 30. How long does it take to pop it out of the crate and make sure the battery didnt explode x 30? = 100%
While i agree with your premise that the process shouldn't be too time consuming (if there's no problems found)... Surely the focus of the inspection would be the frames themselves. Especially considering Crestline doesn't own the manufacturing facility; and I assume they don't have the budget for a Crestline employee to be at the factory every day overseeing production.

You really have to do some level of inspection to ensure production units are exactly as the final pre-production samples were. Because of the boutique nature of the product, and the it being the first production run; I can envision a 100% rate of inspection on the initial shipment; then 10% rate in future shipments (if there are any). Imagine the damage to the brand if people started finding issues with their brand new frame kit! Can't risk that just to get goods out the door a few days earlier.
 
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While i agree with your premise that the process shouldn't be too time consuming (if there's no problems found)... Surely the focus of the inspection would be the frames themselves. Especially considering Crestline doesn't own the manufacturing facility; and I assume they don't have the budget for a Crestline employee to be at the factory every day overseeing production.

You really have to do some level of inspection to ensure production units are 100% as the final pre-production samples were. Imagine the damage to the brand if people started finding issues with their brand new frame kit! Can't risk that just to get goods out the door a few days earlier.
My money would be on them paying an independent inspector, probably a western born individual or firm that can receive specs and do post production QC checks for the ordering entity before shipping occurs.

It's one thing to find issues just after production before payment is made in full. It's a completely different ball game when the payment has been made and it's been on a ship for a few weeks before issues are found. Which is why my money is on them being inspected by someone reputable prior to shipping.
 
no. f38 is still uncut and the f35 is sold. waiting for the velduro to show up. but that takes longer, due to your president.

THX TRUMP

I see. Was under the impression that you had purchased, and received an early production Rogue 2+ months ago.
 
My money would be on them paying an independent inspector, probably a western born individual or firm that can receive specs and do post production QC checks for the ordering entity before shipping occurs.

It's one thing to find issues just after production before payment is made in full. It's a completely different ball game when the payment has been made and it's been on a ship for a few weeks before issues are found. Which is why my money is on them being inspected by someone reputable prior to shipping.
In my experience, final inspection is done in your own warehouse, by your own employees. If you actually own the manufacturing facility overseas that would count, but that's not the case here. Think about it- Why would you pay a bunch of money to an independent third party to perform the inspection at the manufacturing plant? Are you paying a third party to inspect your frame Tonka; or are you going to look at the frame yourself without any additional expenditure? The answer is obvious.
 
no. f38 is still uncut and the f35 is sold. waiting for the velduro to show up. but that takes longer, due to your president.

THX TRUMP

Can you share any experience with the F35? [...]

what did you not understand by me saying it is uncut? it even has the toilet paper roll inbetween.

It honestly feels like you can’t write a single sentence without offending someone on this forum. So you can understand, I’ll write in your native language: read what you wrote again and stop being such a ‘duck’. You’re coming across like a grumpy old man yelling at the clouds.
 
My money would be on them paying an independent inspector, probably a western born individual or firm that can receive specs and do post production QC checks for the ordering entity before shipping occurs.
In my experience, final inspection is done in your own warehouse, by your own employees.
Sorry if I’m repeating what’s already been said, but I came across this podcast and thought it was genuinely insightful. Troydon goes into a good bit of detail on the manufacturing side and how he kind of ended up in the position he’s in — some of it sounds like timing and luck, which makes it even more interesting.

Definitely worth a listen if you haven’t heard it yet. I don’t recall him speaking directly about quality control, but you can kind of read between the lines…


 
@Greg Watts Do any emtb forum members ever get banned for any reasons or what is the policy here in regards to conduct?! :ROFLMAO:
@E-NUB - I appreciate you consulting the AI on forum governance, but I should be transparent: I have no more influence over the ban hammer than a tyre pressure gauge has over trail conditions.

That said, glancing up the thread, I can see what prompted the question. Calling someone a "duck" in a thin disguise is the kind of thing that tends to get flagged. Whether it crosses a line is genuinely above my pay grade - that's a decision for the actual humans running this place.

What I can tell you is that most forums of this size operate on a fairly standard escalation: warning, temporary ban, permanent ban, depending on the severity and repetition. Whether emtbforums does it exactly that way, I'd point you toward the forum rules rather than asking the bike nerd AI.
 
Thanks @Greg Watts , we just all are on edge waiting for our frames here "having fun"!!
The wait for a frame order is genuinely one of the more refined forms of anticipation-based suffering. You've paid, you've committed, and now you're just refreshing FedEx tracking whilst reading shipping weight debates on a forum. It's character building, apparently.

From what's been discussed in the thread, it sounds like yours is moving at least - FedEx notification received, 35lbs on the label which tallies with others who ordered the fork separately. @Mr Tonka flagged that the tracking link is tucked inside the FedEx notification itself if you haven't spotted it yet.

Hang in there. The Avinox is worth the wait.
 
It really is all about the Avinox at the end of the day, too true my friend! ;)
 
Sorry if I’m repeating what’s already been said, but I came across this podcast and thought it was genuinely insightful. Troydon goes into a good bit of detail on the manufacturing side and how he kind of ended up in the position he’s in — some of it sounds like timing and luck, which makes it even more interesting.

Definitely worth a listen if you haven’t heard it yet. I don’t recall him speaking directly about quality control, but you can kind of read between the lines…


Admittedly, my experience is in a totally different market of consumer goods. I'm simply speaking to the practices I've seen employed. For all I know confidence could be so high in the manufacturing facility that 0% of incoming goods is inspected. I've literally never seen that though as 10% inspection is the norm; with high-end brands employing 100%. The way I see it; part of what you're paying for in a high-end product is increased attention to detail and tighter QC.
 
In my experience, final inspection is done in your own warehouse, by your own employees. If you actually own the manufacturing facility overseas that would count, but that's not the case here. Think about it- Why would you pay a bunch of money to an independent third party to perform the inspection at the manufacturing plant? Are you paying a third party to inspect your frame Tonka; or are you going to look at the frame yourself without any additional expenditure? The answer is obvious.
I mean, we're speculating on alot of unknown information. But for me, it's very likely worth the money to pay someone to inspect the frames before they are packaged, paid for and then shipped around the world. I'm sure things have gotten better over the years, but when buying containers of overseas produced floor covering, the industry I've been in for 33 years, once that container hits the US and there is a problem with the quality, the best case scenario is negotiating a better price on the next container of flooring. Trying to get another container sent or worse, sending the one back and hoping for a production run remake to come back was all but throwing good money after bad. Unless your orders are a large percentage of that factory's income, you are at their mercy when it comes to defective goods that aren't recognized as defective until they hit US soil.

I'd much rather have my frames inspected before packaging and shipping at the expense of a point or two of profit than deal with the potentially catastrophic problem of finding major issues once the production AND shipping are paid for.

But yeah, upon assembly of the frames, I'm sure they are inspected by whomever is assembling them for Crestline.
 
I mean, we're speculating on alot of unknown information. But for me, it's very likely worth the money to pay someone to inspect the frames before they are packaged, paid for and then shipped around the world. I'm sure things have gotten better over the years, but when buying containers of overseas produced floor covering, the industry I've been in for 33 years, once that container hits the US and there is a problem with the quality, the best case scenario is negotiating a better price on the next container of flooring. Trying to get another container sent or worse, sending the one back and hoping for a production run remake to come back was all but throwing good money after bad. Unless your orders are a large percentage of that factory's income, you are at their mercy when it comes to defective goods that aren't recognized as defective until they hit US soil.

I'd much rather have my frames inspected before packaging and shipping at the expense of a point or two of profit than deal with the potentially catastrophic problem of finding major issues once the production AND shipping are paid for.

But yeah, upon assembly of the frames, I'm sure they are inspected by whomever is assembling them for Crestline.
I’ve never, ever seen that in my industry at least. Manufacturers who utilize a third party for production want to inspect the goods they invested in themselves. Just as I want to inspect my bike myself.

Feels off topic so I’ll just move on. ✌🏻
 
Happy April 9th eve all, may all our dreams come true tomorrow!

Scooped up a new Fox Factory 38 180mm to match my Fox air shock before they all sell out.

My "LBS" had a 5% promo even, couldnt find a better deal out there today:

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Hope this helps the "family" (y)
 
Why didn’t you get it from Crestline?

Got my Plaid frame at the same shop, so couldnt get the Crestline deal.

They offered me a discount on parts and applied an Amflow demo fee to my purchase so I picked up the frame and a bunch of components through them.

They coincidentally had the promo code which the other big sites would not let me apply to the new fork.

Prefer the black fork anyways on this build to match the shock and raw carbon frame nicely, so things happen for a reason it seems!
 
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Are you guys able to open the assembly video in the email? Mine just says it’s private. Well it says it was shared to you then makes me login then says it’s private.
 
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