We sort of already have that. The European e bike limit was set at the sort of speed people ride at. I don’t know what your fitness level is like but I’ve a 300w ftp and I’d struggle to keep at 20mph on the flat for any real length of time.
Orbea x Avinox Rumours
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Imagine all injuries you could avoid if everything was limited to 5 mph though. Why isn’t that sensible policy?you would, but Helsinki has shown you can achieve zero road deaths without doing that with sensible policies and infrastructure while still having decent mobility.
Helsinki records zero road deaths over the past year
Helsinki has recorded a full year without traffic fatalities, credited to long-term Vision Zero policies, lower speed limits, safer street design, and expanded walking, cycling and public transport infrastructure.urban-mobility-observatory.transport.ec.europa.eu
why are you asking people on an emtb forum - not the people who make the law?
If you feel strongly about a blanket 5mph limit in your state go petition your governer
of course you obviously don't believe in it and you appear to be trolling?
If you’re mountain biking in a private bike park or on completely private land fill your boots. But most Mtb in Europe is on public land where people have a right to walk as well and trails are effectively all bi-directional and shared use. There’s a logic and justification for limits here in my view.
As far as safety on the roads goes i never stop finding it bizarre how much investigation/ regulation/training goes on to address and prevent deaths and injuries in workplaces, trains or airplanes. How often changes are made as a result and how little of the same approach is applied to private car use on the roads.
As far as safety on the roads goes i never stop finding it bizarre how much investigation/ regulation/training goes on to address and prevent deaths and injuries in workplaces, trains or airplanes. How often changes are made as a result and how little of the same approach is applied to private car use on the roads.
I was told by an Orbea dealer owner that I text with that (in reference to the new Avinox Wild) 'Orbea will almost certainly lock down the power to 750w...'. He heard something for certain.
Have to say I took out my Bosch Wild yesterday for the first time with the 120nm update as I'm 8 days out of knee surgery, and that's so insanely powerful. It'll go up very steep grades, in pretty much whatever gear you find yourself in, with literally only one leg able to pedal.
I recognize the world is a lot larger than a little canyon trail behind my house, but I also know what bikes are supposed to be capable of, and this is really stretching the limit in my opinion. It also ate up quite a bit of battery very quickly and it could not have been good for my drivetrain.
From a skills standpoint I also find it a bit boring that you don't have to pay attention to what gear you're in. I matched Alex the bike testers recommended Bosch settings from his YouTube channel. I'm definitely going to turn it down and just try to keep a state of mind that it always needs to be at a lower power level. I might even remove my handlebar actuated remote just to remove the temptation.
I've ridden in other states where you just have wide open dirt roads to climb and I could see more power even being better for that specific use case. But I don't think you can have that additional power just on the road climb without also having the more power on the places we are not supposed to have it. And really is it such a problem having to take a little longer to climb? Not everything has to be rushed to the most extreme amount.
Have to say I took out my Bosch Wild yesterday for the first time with the 120nm update as I'm 8 days out of knee surgery, and that's so insanely powerful. It'll go up very steep grades, in pretty much whatever gear you find yourself in, with literally only one leg able to pedal.
I recognize the world is a lot larger than a little canyon trail behind my house, but I also know what bikes are supposed to be capable of, and this is really stretching the limit in my opinion. It also ate up quite a bit of battery very quickly and it could not have been good for my drivetrain.
From a skills standpoint I also find it a bit boring that you don't have to pay attention to what gear you're in. I matched Alex the bike testers recommended Bosch settings from his YouTube channel. I'm definitely going to turn it down and just try to keep a state of mind that it always needs to be at a lower power level. I might even remove my handlebar actuated remote just to remove the temptation.
I've ridden in other states where you just have wide open dirt roads to climb and I could see more power even being better for that specific use case. But I don't think you can have that additional power just on the road climb without also having the more power on the places we are not supposed to have it. And really is it such a problem having to take a little longer to climb? Not everything has to be rushed to the most extreme amount.
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I don’t consider it trolling. There seem to be a lot of people out there who really are that thick or sociopathic. They might genuinely have never thought about it or seen what’s possible in civilized cities. The internet is full of Americans visiting Europe for the first time and having their minds blown by decent public transport and walkable cities.
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Please listen to this man. I'm tired of regulations, I just want photos, videos, and my fucking Orbea Wild Avinox.
Word!
Yes, its called EP810 … so it seems to be more of a evolution than a brand new motor.
Lets see what Eurobike will bring
Bikerson
Member
That's what I have heard too. Next Rise, will carry the new Shimano motor (probably by the end of the year).
And regarding to the main thread....
Today I have had the privilege to see the new Wild in life.... What a f***ing beauty of an E-bike!!!
It was full kashima (38 & X2, non electronic susp) with the RS shifter for the post. I lift it by my hands and can say that at least, weights a couple or more kilos less than my actual 2023 M20 (24'4kg), although I don't know if it had the 600Wh or 800Wh battery inside.
Edit: will not say colour nor size to keep it safe.
dirtsufer
New Member
OMG I'm jealous! Does it look as much like the Rallon as the leaked pictures indicate?
so it has the RS shifter on the left and the Avinox on the right ? or does it have two avinox shifters and an extra orbea one ?
Bikerson
Member
Yes it does at all
Bikerson
Member
The RS controller is for the dropper, correct? This shouldn’t impede having an Avinox controller on left if someone wanted one. Agree?
You don’t necessarily need both Avinox controllers but it is nice to have. One adjusts the maps quickly (needed one imo). The other toggles the screen, but it also acts as a record button if you have the dji action cams. So I enjoy having both because the record button comes in clutch, but you can also just swipe the screen and click on there too. You can actually make the other do multiple different things other than just record too.
MOG
Active member
My LBS has posted the following advert for the new M10 ....
Coming soon the all new Orbea WILD M10 £7479.00.
Frameset
Fork
Fox 38 Float Factory 170, Grip X2, 15x110, Kashima
Frame
Orbea Wild OMR 2027, 29" wheels, Concentric Boost 12x148
Shock
Fox Float X2 Factory Trunnion 2-Pos Adjust Kashima custom tune 205x65mm
Headset
Acros ZS56
Ebike
Motor
DJI Avinox M2S
Battery
DJI Avinox 800Wh
Display
DJI Avinox DP100
Charger
DJI Avinox Charger 4A
Remote
Orbea System Controller Remote
Drivetrain
Crank
e*thirteen Helix Race e*spec Direct Mount 34T 55mm ChainLine
Shifters
Shimano XT M8200 I-Spec EV
Cassette
Shimano CS-M7200 10-51t 12-Speed
Rear derailleur
Shimano XT M8200 SGS Shadow Plus
Chain
Shimano M6100
Chainguide
Orbea eBike chainguide
Cockpit
Handlebar
OC Mountain Control MC21 Alu SL, Rise 35, Width 800
Stem
OC Mountain Control MC21, 0º
Computer Mount
OC Computer Mount CM-05, Garmin/Sigma
Brakes
Brakes
Shimano XT 8220 Hydraulic Disc
Rotors
Galfer Wave Rotors 200mm front / 200mm rear
Brakes Configuration
N/A
Wheels
Wheels
DT Swiss H 1900 Spline 30c
Tyres
Maxxis Assegai 2.50" 60TPI Fold 3C MaxxGrip Exo+ TR
Tyres
Maxxis Minion 2.40" 120x2TPI Fold 3C MaxxTerra DD TR
Components
Saddle
Fizik Aidon 208x145mm manganese rail
Seatpost
OC Mountain Control MC22, 31.6mm, Dropper
Seatpost Lever
Shimano SL-MT500 I-Spec EV
Coming soon the all new Orbea WILD M10 £7479.00.
Frameset
Fork
Fox 38 Float Factory 170, Grip X2, 15x110, Kashima
Frame
Orbea Wild OMR 2027, 29" wheels, Concentric Boost 12x148
Shock
Fox Float X2 Factory Trunnion 2-Pos Adjust Kashima custom tune 205x65mm
Headset
Acros ZS56
Ebike
Motor
DJI Avinox M2S
Battery
DJI Avinox 800Wh
Display
DJI Avinox DP100
Charger
DJI Avinox Charger 4A
Remote
Orbea System Controller Remote
Drivetrain
Crank
e*thirteen Helix Race e*spec Direct Mount 34T 55mm ChainLine
Shifters
Shimano XT M8200 I-Spec EV
Cassette
Shimano CS-M7200 10-51t 12-Speed
Rear derailleur
Shimano XT M8200 SGS Shadow Plus
Chain
Shimano M6100
Chainguide
Orbea eBike chainguide
Cockpit
Handlebar
OC Mountain Control MC21 Alu SL, Rise 35, Width 800
Stem
OC Mountain Control MC21, 0º
Computer Mount
OC Computer Mount CM-05, Garmin/Sigma
Brakes
Brakes
Shimano XT 8220 Hydraulic Disc
Rotors
Galfer Wave Rotors 200mm front / 200mm rear
Brakes Configuration
N/A
Wheels
Wheels
DT Swiss H 1900 Spline 30c
Tyres
Maxxis Assegai 2.50" 60TPI Fold 3C MaxxGrip Exo+ TR
Tyres
Maxxis Minion 2.40" 120x2TPI Fold 3C MaxxTerra DD TR
Components
Saddle
Fizik Aidon 208x145mm manganese rail
Seatpost
OC Mountain Control MC22, 31.6mm, Dropper
Seatpost Lever
Shimano SL-MT500 I-Spec EV
Bikerson
Member
I guess you are correct in both but cannot guarantee it
Interesting they went shimano vs sram axs with the Avinox. The shimano doesn’t cord connect to Avinox right?
Having smoothshift, not having to charge battery in derailleur, and the other features that save the drivechain like decreasing torque a second during a shift makes a big difference. I love the smoothshift feature that makes the shifts while going dh coasting and the bike will be ready in that gear as soon as you pedal again.
Having smoothshift, not having to charge battery in derailleur, and the other features that save the drivechain like decreasing torque a second during a shift makes a big difference. I love the smoothshift feature that makes the shifts while going dh coasting and the bike will be ready in that gear as soon as you pedal again.
wonder if this is a new update. As of now it isn’t compatible. That’ll be sick if it is! Hopefully with all the features and not just power
The Bosch Wild uses Shimano so I'm not surprised. I assume there's an agreement between Orbea and Shimano to spec their product by default, if not only.
brendand
Member
M-Team will have GX AXS Transmission
lenscape
Member
I saw the M-Team. It has the GX AXS transmission, Fox 38 and X2 Factory, and Orbea wireless dropper (which is as fast as the Fox Neo). Maven silver brakes.
The rep also mentioned they are working on the battery extender.
I ordered the purple M-Team.
I tested to make sure the charging port door is not obstructing the crank.
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