Orbea x Avinox Rumours

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Are these going to be available to actually buy on release date? So far everything that I’ve been interested in has a Oct/Nov delivery date. I did manage to find one Unno Mith frameset in my size at a tiny random shop so I’ll go that route if all else fails.
 
Suns_PSD said:
direct wired dropper (I absolutely love the idea of this, in the real world is it actually a quality dropper though?),
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The mechanical Orbea Droppers have been decent enough. They go up and down, they're user serviceable and the parts are all available at a reasonable price (more so than any other dropper I've had except brand X stuff)

Suns_PSD said:
With all due respect, if a colab includes no cost loaner bikes there is a very natural tendency to review the product favorably, because views of new products makes money through other avenues.
That said, Avinox makes good products and I don't think everyone is full of crap.
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Bomble said:
With the M1 they seemingly gave all the high profile YouTubers a free bike to keep. Who is ever going to slag off their free 9 grand bike?
That was in reply to post 807, the quote didn’t work.
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No-one makes really bad bikes any more. Avinox got a lot of reviews by giving away a lot of bikes and the high power meant there was an obvious differentiating 'wow' factor.
Unless reviewers are actually buying all the bikes they review at retail (and I dont think theres anyone doing that for bikes - the closest I can think of in the bike industry is DC Rainmaker who returns all the review samples and buys the stuff he likes) they need to keep on the right side of the manufacturers. What that means in reality is accentuating the good stuff about a bike that has some faults and suppressing bad reviews (just not publishing them or not mentioning the issues) rather than saying somethings great when it's not.

None of the review sites or magazines really covered motor reliability - "everyone knew" Specialized had a massively high failure rate on their motors for years but Spec were big enough and important enough that it never really got the coverage it justified?
 
b33k34 said:
The mechanical Orbea Droppers have been decent enough. They go up and down, they're user serviceable and the parts are all available at a reasonable price (more so than any other dropper I've had except brand X stuff)



No-one makes really bad bikes any more. Avinox got a lot of reviews by giving away a lot of bikes and the high power meant there was an obvious differentiating 'wow' factor.
Unless reviewers are actually buying all the bikes they review at retail (and I dont think theres anyone doing that for bikes - the closest I can think of in the bike industry is DC Rainmaker who returns all the review samples and buys the stuff he likes) they need to keep on the right side of the manufacturers. What that means in reality is accentuating the good stuff about a bike that has some faults and suppressing bad reviews (just not publishing them or not mentioning the issues) rather than saying somethings great when it's not.

None of the review sites or magazines really covered motor reliability - "everyone knew" Specialized had a massively high failure rate on their motors for years but Spec were big enough and important enough that it never really got the coverage it justified?
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Off topic, but for reviews the closest was Paul Aston, maybe Lewis Buchanan, but unfortunately their tastes and content are often too far from the norm to be useful to most riders.
 
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So there's 7 models in total. 4 carbon and 3 alloy. Only the top two carbon bikes are designated s RS models with the seatpost integration and fancy remote.

Not sure if it's only the RS models that get the RS tuned motor also.
 
155mm Cranks in all sizes... that's very short. the 160mm i have on my wild are short enough if you are 195cm tall...

750W sucks !

but i guess i will have to order one anyways
 
DylanJM said:
So there's 7 models in total. 4 carbon and 3 alloy. Only the top two carbon bikes are designated s RS models with the seatpost integration and fancy remote.

Not sure if it's only the RS models that get the RS tuned motor also.
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yeah it's a bit confusing now they're using the 'RS' for the tune and the RS system - but I would guess all the motors are limited with the RS tune
 
skizzian said:
yeah it's a bit confusing now they're using the 'RS' for the tune and the RS system - but I would guess all the motors are limited with the RS tune
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You are right, all models with custom Orbea RS tune motor.
RS System to control dropper and motor with just one remote only in the two top carbon models
 
They must be pulling insane amperage to get 130Nm but stay under 750W, I don’t get how they can have such high torque without exceeding 750W. Are they measuring that mechanically at the wheel as output power or electrically as Volts x Amps at the output of the battery/input to the motor? If it’s the output power I guess that would be easier, just keep the speed low.
 
This thing is bad as f**k.

The motor is cool and all but it's the bike that stands out.

One thing I've found on my own size large '26 Wild is that I commonly struggle on nearly every bike with front end grip at the limit and generally always wish for longer CS length. But the balance on my Wild is flawless. I can just slam it in to a loose flat turn very aggressively, all from the hips and core with no need to think about weighting the front end or doing anything weird, and it's just so predictable and both ends of the bike remain in unison at all times. It never snaps, or pushes. I would have thought looking at the geo that it needed a longer chain stay, but it doesn't.
It also maintains a very 'bike' feel when needing to manual off drops and the like. Something that my notably lighter Relay couldn't emulate.
 
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killerade said:

There you go. Enjoy. 😎🍿
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Thanks for posting! Definitely like the new dropper post capabilities. Guess all the contents providers will be launching videos as well pretty quickly to provide their feedback.

One thing I've surmised is every bike has its pro's and con's and matching components that are a good fit to frame and motor design plays a huge impact on how a bike performs.

I'm still in the market for a new Wild even though my custom build Zendit has been knocking my socks off and the Crestline RS181.2 I ordered looks to be arriving soon. Really enjoyed my previous Wild's, just really fun bikes to ride.

Presuming we'll be able to create custom assistance modes? Wish Orbea offered frame only option or more options on components.
 
Bikerson said:
M20 in Royal Plum ordered.... Arriving late August/early September provably.
No matter as I have to have my finger surgeried due to a broken tendon
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OMG!! My LBS has an M20 Purple in stock, I'm coming this afternoon to check it out and check the delivery dates of my M-Team... Are you sure you want to wait until August/September?
 
Rando_12345 said:
Guess who paused the video for the screenshot above right before they talk about superboost with 1300W?
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From what I understand the "superboost" is just activated for a limited time, so it's the same as the regular "boost" on other M2s motors, but they still have 1300w/130nm without any boost unlike this that only has 750w/130nm without the boost activated.
 
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