Orbea Rise SL Range

[Pilton]

Does anyone have an idea of the range you could expect from a Rise SL over flat land?

I'm 191cm tall and about 63kg. Fit enough to ride an analogue MTB for three or four hours at a decent pace, without much trouble.

I usually ride (a HT or a gravel bike) an hour or so (off road) out to the local trail centre, blast about and then home off road again. The plan for an emtb is to extend the middle bit and get home without being completely knackered.

To me, the Rise SL seems to be XC oriented enough, and have a sufficiently large battery to accommodate this but no one seems to have done a flat land range test.

I have no idea what assistance level I'll be asking from the bike as I don't own an emtb yet!

Any thoughts anyone?

 

[ep8-rs]

Hey Pilton,
I've modded my Rise with eMax to 85nm from the standard 60nm so take that into account with these numbers.
I am 177 cm tall and 68 kg in weight and carrying about 5 kg in golf clubs and a lock. On a paved road with a few small hills which pretty much balance out in rise and fall , I ride to my local golf course and back home for a total of 22.5 km. This is all in Turbo mode and varying stop and go with an average of 34.5 kph as per the cyclometer. When I arrive back home I have 3 of the 5 bars of power remaining. So , roughly 56 km potential with my mods at max drain on the battery.
Hope that gives a bit of help.
I've edited this post with corrections to the nm at 60 for stock for anyone reading in the future as per backflips correction. To further add info , My Rise is a 2022 with a 360 battery , and I am using the Shimano SC-E7000 cycle computer. I almost didn't post a reply as I have changed my Rise enough that it is really not a valid example for a new bike comparison. Especially with backflips info and just how different the 2025 is. Only posted as no one was responding and to at least give an a "worse" case for range. Even with all my changes , my Rise still has plenty for me and I've never had range anxiety. Again , hope this helps someone as I am only here casually as a thank you to all the info I've received.

Ride on

 

[Backflip]

Does anyone have an idea of the range you could expect from a Rise SL over flat land?

I'm 191cm tall and about 63kg. Fit enough to ride an analogue MTB for three or four hours at a decent pace, without much trouble.

I usually ride (a HT or a gravel bike) an hour or so (off road) out to the local trail centre, blast about and then home off road again. The plan for an emtb is to extend the middle bit and get home without being completely knackered.

To me, the Rise SL seems to be XC oriented enough, and have a sufficiently large battery to accommodate this but no one seems to have done a flat land range test.

I have no idea what assistance level I'll be asking from the bike as I don't own an emtb yet!

Any thoughts anyone?

The major question to you before answering your question is which model of the Rise SL with which drive unit (DU-EP801-RS or DU-EP600-RS) and which battery size you will intend to buy and use? See here.
There is the new large & more heavy 630Wh and the new smaller & more lightweight 420Wh battery for the new SL bikes which for sure make a big difference in range.
Also you can buy and use an additional range extender which increases range additionally.
For sure, the battery range also is highly depending on the selected motor assistance. With the new FineTune mode of the DU-EP801 and DU-EP600 you can select between 15 different settings, so you have a wide range to select from.
So if you want to get such a nice Rise SL bike and want to get max. range, I would recommend to order one with the larger 630Wh battery as well as with the DU-EP801(RS) drive unit because this drive unit is better in all aspects than the DU-EP600.
The DU-EP801 has a max. peak power of 600W (in unleashed version which you easily can do with the emax software already in the licence key free mode) and a max. torque of 85Nm while the DU-EP600 "only" has a max. peak power of 500W. This is because the DU-EP801 has a magnesium housing with much better thermal behaviour than the aluminum housing of the DU-EP600. Additionally the DU-EP801 has 300g less of weight compared to the DU-EP600.
Also on the DU-EP801 you can use the new (and great) "race mode" in LV15 which was delivered with the latest motor firmware version 4.3.0, see here:

Additionaly I highly suggest to order the (on some models optional) SC-EN600 display, because only with this small and lightweight display the new FineTune mode makes real practical sense. This colorful small display has many advantages, e.g. a battery indicator with 10 segments, indication of the FineTune modes, grahical view of dymaic motor torque, indication of selected gear when using an electronic Di2 derailleur, additional connectivity for e.g. a PCE - interface to configure the bike, and a lot more. So, it is definitely worth the additional money.

I've modded my Rise with eMax to 85nm from the standard 65nm so take that into account with these numbers.

You are using the older DU-EP800 (RS) drive unit on your Orbea bike which is completely different to the new DU-EP801-RS and DU-EP600-RS drive unit which is used in the new Rise SL bikes.
Your DU-EP800 based bike also uses different battery sizes (360Wh or 540Wh) than the new Rise SL (630Wh and 420Wh).
So, it is not easy to compare these (quite different) bikes regarding range...

BTW.: The standard max. torque value of a "RS" branded drive unit with reduced max. torque and max. peak power settings which only Orbea uses on some of their bikes is always 60Nm (Newton * meters), not 65Nm.
It does not matter if it is an older DU-EP800-RS drive unit or the newer DU-EP801-RS of Generation 1 (with blue "RS" sticker on the right motor cover).
Only the newest version Generation 2 (with red/blue "RS" sticker) of the DU-EP801-RS (which e.g. is used on the new Rise SL bikes) uses a max. torque value of 85Nm which is the official standard value of any DU-EP801 which is delivered from Shimano. See also here.

 

[Paulquattro]

Welcome

 

[Pilton]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply Backflip!

I was thinking of the 2025 M10. A bit spendy but I have funds atm. I was also pretty sure I'd go for the larger battery...not sure I'd want to risk it conking out an hour or two from home!

Does the Rise use Bluetooth or Ant+? If so, it may talk to my Karoo2.

 

[Backflip]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply Backflip!

I was thinking of the 2025 M10. A bit spendy but I have funds atm. I was also pretty sure I'd go for the larger battery...not sure I'd want to risk it conking out an hour or two from home!

Does the Rise use Bluetooth or Ant+? If so, it may talk to my Karoo2.

The M10 is a (nearly) perfect bike and I think worth the money.
I have access so several Orbea Rise bikes of all generations and they are really well made.
As written before, ideally get the optional SC-EN600 display and maybe also the range extender.
Personaly I also would change the mechanical derailleur against a 12 gear electronics Di2 derailleur, because I love the great and unique FreeShift functionality (completely changing gears without pedeling at all) of this derailleur which only works in combination with a DU-EP801 or DU-EP600. However, you also can do this as an afterthought and use emax software to configure the bike correctly then. See maybe also here.

Back to your question: The Rise by default uses the SW-EW600-L control unit at the left hand side handle bar. This unit supports Bluetooth LE as well as ANT+. Unfortunately Shimano some weeks ago has completely reorganized their web presence in the internet and currently some details on these components are still missing. Hopefully, all necessary information will be shown again soon.
However, take care with third party equipment like Karoo´s, because Shimano very often is not 100% compatible with such third party companies, sometimes on purpose. So, especially Karoo which is from Hammerhead is not Shimano´s best friend because Hammerhead was bought from SRAM and SRAM is the major competitor of Shimano. So there are many forum posts already about incompatiblities of Karoo and Shimano. This also is a major reason to get the SC-EN600 display which is 100% tightly intergrated in the Shimano universe and so you don´t have any incompatibilities.
Also there is the free of charge E-Tube-Ride software from Shimano for iOS and Android which also works perfectly with the SW-EN600-L control unit. So in my opinion, it is much better to use your smartphone and this app than the Karoo, however, for sure you can give it a try. But don´t be disappointed if this or that parameter will not be shown correctly on the Karoo, especially parameters of the newer functions (like FineTune - mode) may not work properly or not at all, because Karoo don´t officially get the newest specifications for the API (application programming interface) from Shimano.
That´s how business works and there are a lot of "sharks in the tank" and the one with the longest teeth mostly will win and survive. And Shimano has quite long teeth. So I wish happy thinking about your new bike.

 

[ep8-rs]

edited my reply post above as per backflips notes.

 

[Pilton]

Given the above...would it be reasonable to expect 100k rides without it running out of juice?

 

[Backflip]

Given the above...would it be reasonable to expect 100k rides without it running out of juice?

Sorry, I´m not a native English speaker, so I don´t fully understand the question.
When using "100k",are you thinking of 100.000 rides (with what average distances?) or 100.000km of rides?
And when using "running out of juice", are you thinking of yourself running out of juice or the bike runing out of juice (and in what way)?
Please ideally clarify and give some more details regarding your question.

 

[Weeksy]

Sorry, I´m not a native English speaker, so I don´t fully understand the question.
When using "100k",are you thinking of 100.000 rides (with what average distances?) or 100.000km of rides?
And when using "running out of juice", are you thinking of yourself running out of juice or the bike runing out of juice (and in what way)?
Please ideally clarify and give some more details regarding your question.

100km he means. Can the bike in your scenario expect to do 100km rides on a single charge.

 

[Pilton]

Forgive me!

I was thinking of rides of 100k (60 miles or so).

'Running out of juice', the battery running out of charge.

 

[Backflip]

Thanks for clarification. I didn´t think of just "km" for the "k", so silly me...
If you will order and use the larger 630Wh battery and use moderate motor support on a mostly flat road, you should easily get 100km out of one battery charge.
However, as written before, the range is highly depending on the level of motor assistance.
I use some quite large (way more than 700Wh) batteries in some bikes and do empty them in less than 50km if I want to have a lot of fun in highest Boost mode and max. motor support speeds around 50km/h.
However, you also easily can get more than 200km out of one battery charge if you use the lowest Eco mode (with very little motor support, which can be close to painful)...
Also system weight (bike and rider), road condition as well as tire condition (air pressure and tire pattern) has a huge impact on range.

 

[Pilton]

Thanks. That helps a lot.

 

[Bakewell Blue]

At 191cm and 63kg if it’s windy you can always get blown back home, that is proper skinny man.

 

[Grendel]

I'm about 103 KG fully kitted out. I live in an area that is relatively flat. I own both a 2021 M10 (360 WH battery) and a 2023 MTeam (upgraded to the 540 WH battery).

I've gotten a little over 40 miles (42?) out M10 with 360 WH and that was with a mix of assist modes, mostly trail but using a fair bit of boost towards the end because I was tired but wanted to see how far I could go if I completely depleted the battery. I've got those assist modes set at 44 and 60 NM respectively.

I've never maxed out the range on my newer bike but I would foresee no problem getting 100 kilometers out of it. I certainly think you could at your weight and fitness level with the larger battery. My gf has taken over my older Rise and, at 53 kg, has ridden it over 30 miles with plenty of battery left.

Go buy it. You'll love it!

 

[Pilton]

Can I pick this thread up again and ask an Orbea SL 2025 specific question?

With reference to the facility to switch between 85Nm and 65Nm...is this functionality available across the entire range or is it limited to just a few models?

 

[Backflip]

Can I pick this thread up again and ask an Orbea SL 2025 specific question?

With reference to the facility to switch between 85Nm and 65Nm...is this functionality available across the entire range or is it limited to just a few models?

I don´t know where you have got the 65Nm torque value from, but all Shimano drive units (does not matter if DU-EP801, DU-EP800 or DU-EP600) which are labeled with a blue or blue/red "RS" - sticker at the right motor cover (mostly Rise and Urrun - bikes) are limited to 60Nm (not 65Nm) because of the sometimes quite small battery which is used on these bikes to achieve some higher range with one battery charge.
You can use the eMax-Tuning software (already in the licence key free version) to increase these reduced max. torque of 60Nm to the max. 85Nm of the underlaying Shimano STePS drive unit.
In that case you also should increase max. peak power, otherwise the still reduced max. peak power may avoid to get full usage of the increase max. torque value, because torque, power and cadence are physically related to each other.

 

[Pilton]

Thanks for your (once again) very detailed reply. The 65Nm figure was a typo.