New YT Decoy X Avinox Lanched

[zerofunds]

To save the company they really needed something that absolutely killed it, instead they absolutely missed the mark. Unfortunately this might be the end for YT

 

[501AM]

The full Decoy X line-up will apparently be released later this month, with the lowest specced Core 1 starting at 4499€.

 

[Decolocsta]

YT? No thanks. I don’t Trust them

 

[nickf]

YT? No thanks. I don’t Trust them

Maybe a new Pole instead?

 

[Rando_12345]

I have owned and loved 2 YT bikes (Jeffsy and Capra), and had great customer care from them. But after their recent bankruptcy, YT's next ebike would litteraly need to be the best bike on the market and at a lower price than most of the competition for me to even consider it.

Well, it's not exactly the bike for me, but I have to admit a lot of people could be having a lot of fun for €4500

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/yt-launches-avinox-m2s-powered-decoy-x-core-range.html

 

[501AM]

Core 1-2-3-4 is out now in addition to the Launch Edition, pretty good prices.

https://www.yt-industries.com/E-MTB/Avinox-Decoy-X/

 

[Ndanger]

Well, it's not exactly the bike for me, but I have to admit a lot of people could be having a lot of fun for €4500

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/yt-launches-avinox-m2s-powered-decoy-x-core-range.html

Alloy frame, competitive pricing, curious on the weight

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Alloy frame, competitive pricing, curious on the weight

Around 25kg:

 

[Yotaismygame]

Around 25kg:

Without pedals and a size small. Heavier than most if not all the avinox competition. I do like the value on the core 1 & 2 though. But Propain isnt much.

 

[501AM]

Without pedals and a size small. Heavier than most if not all the avinox competition. I do like the value on the core 1 & 2 though. But Propain isnt much.

They are definitely not the lightest, but they are more or less the same weight as similar specced alu bikes and in-fact lighter than the Commencal’s for example.

 

[Yotaismygame]

They are definitely not the lightest, but they are more or less the same weight as similar specced alu bikes and in-fact lighter than the Commencal’s for example.

Not sure what specs you're reading but the commencal is about the same or lighter depending the build. Lets say core 4 to the rockshox build. So hmm buy a commencal or a YT.....easy decision.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Not sure what specs you're reading but the commencal is about the same or lighter depending the build. Lets say core 4 to the rockshox build. So hmm buy a commencal or a YT.....easy decision.

https://www.emtbforums.com/bike-finder/compare?bikes=yt-decoy-2026,commencal-meta-power-sx-dji-2026

 

[Rando_12345]

Commencals official weights are for a size S which has the 600wh battery, so they are definitely gaming the spec sheet. In the commencal thread people were getting ~25kg builds, so more or less the same weight for YT and commencal. And also for my 2022 giant reign which had almost a kilo more of battery and motor weight...

 

[adamdavies11b]

Without pedals and a size small. Heavier than most if not all the avinox competition. I do like the value on the core 1 & 2 though. But Propain isnt much.

Its a shame about the weight over 25kg tubeless in a small is a bit insane. Was considering it untill i saw the weight. Deffo agree core 1 and 2 are great value if you dont mind a heavy brute of a bike. Tough to compete with the whyte karve and amflow pr pro though.

 

[Mario Antony]

4.5k for an ebike with the popular motor, that most folks rave about, but mostly never rode one!

The entry level seems nicely priced, geo is on the spot, and suspension travel is 5☆ for what I use!

It's a shame YT don't offer this bike in Carbon, possibly taking around 1kg to 1.5kg from the aloy ebike.

Now I would like to try one of this!

 

[501AM]

Not sure what specs you're reading but the commencal is about the same or lighter depending the build. Lets say core 4 to the rockshox build. So hmm buy a commencal or a YT.....easy decision.

As others already have pointed out, the Commencal weights are with a 600wh battery on the Size S unlike the YT with a 800wh, so you have to add +1kg on them.

 

[stuff]

I'd totally consider one in carbon and with 600wh battery, which with a nice setup could get to 20-21k? (proper wheels, cassette, carbon renthal, oneup dropper, etc)

 

[Rando_12345]

I'd totally consider one in carbon and with 600wh battery, which with a nice setup could get to 20-21k? (proper wheels, cassette, carbon renthal, oneup dropper, etc)

That's what we expected this generation of avinox bikes to hit, but they pretty much all got heavier, e.g. full carbon mondraker isn't getting below 23kg.

Orbea could realistically get close based on their Bosch equivalents.

 

[Ndanger]

As others already have pointed out, the Commencal weights are with a 600wh battery on the Size S unlike the YT with a 800wh, so you have to add +1kg on them.

The comparison of the 2 bikes is illuminating. Looking at the specs and the delta in pricing, I have to say that YT has a compelling offering. I am still rubbing my eyes to make sure I read correctly that the similar weights are comparing a 800wh YT, to a Small frame and a 600 wh battery and less travel, unless I am missing something.

 

[Yotaismygame]

The weights listed on the US site for Commencal say:

Rockshox build:

• Weight​

  26 kg / 57,32 lbs
  Minimum weight for M size, without pedals. Weight may differ slightly due to manufacturing tolerances.

• Battery​

  AVINOX
  600 Wh on S, 800 Wh on M / L / XL, Fully integrated main battery
  AVINOX 508w Fast Battery charger

Podium build:

• Weight​

  25 kg / 55.12 lbs
  Minimum weight for M size, without pedals. Weight may differ slightly due to manufacturing tolerances.

Anyways back to YT.....I own a capra and I'm glad at the time(2023) they existed because it helped me get back into MTB with the price of that bike being so competitive. But this new bike is not for me nor could I even get one here in the states anyways. I opted for Propain

 

[501AM]

The weights listed on the US site for Commencal say:

Rockshox build:

• Weight​

  26 kg / 57,32 lbs
  Minimum weight for M size, without pedals. Weight may differ slightly due to manufacturing tolerances.

• Battery​

  AVINOX
  600 Wh on S, 800 Wh on M / L / XL, Fully integrated main battery
  AVINOX 508w Fast Battery charger

Podium build:

• Weight​

  25 kg / 55.12 lbs
  Minimum weight for M size, without pedals. Weight may differ slightly due to manufacturing tolerances.

Anyways back to YT.....I own a capra and I'm glad at the time(2023) they existed because it helped me get back into MTB with the price of that bike being so competitive. But this new bike is not for me nor could I even get one here in the states anyways. I opted for Propain

Yeah you are right, it seems like they have changed it recently so it's for the medium with the 800wh battery now, which isn't as deceiving, it however was for the small before with the 600wh battery, this printscreen for example is for the Meta Power SX Avinox Rockshox Pure White from the waybackmachine: