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DuncanDoughnuts said:
2 Products based on the current....
one with a R in it and another with a K in it.
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If it's just gonna be a light build Levo 4 and a long travel Levo 4 it will be very disappointing. Only other thing I can think of that could win more customers is a new front triangle with a smaller battery form factor and keep same drive unit.
 
DylanJM said:
If it's just gonna be a light build Levo 4 and a long travel Levo 4 it will be very disappointing. Only other thing I can think of that could win more customers is a new front triangle with a smaller battery form factor and keep same drive unit.
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Local Store told me same.

Same Gen 4 Body, smaller Batt still removes, different shocks, very tiny increases in power and torque, not going to be cheap.

Not sure of intended market
 
Citylad77 said:
Local Store told me same.

Same Gen 4 Body, smaller Batt still removes, different shocks, very tiny increases in power and torque, not going to be cheap.

Not sure of intended market
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This is probably why no one can buy the 600wh battery yet. Saving it for the levo chunky boy sl
 
Citylad77 said:
Local Store told me same.

Same Gen 4 Body, smaller Batt still removes, different shocks, very tiny increases in power and torque, not going to be cheap.

Not sure of intended market
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Drug dealers ?

Money no object, More urban escape Power, less suspension, increased internal drug carrying capacity.
 
Ribinrobin said:
i doubt spesh will step on the toes there gen4 release to much. despite what people say they wont drop a product thats been out a year. i reckon the new project will be tied to the sl brand somehow
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I noticed the used emtb site Upway is flooded with leftover Specialized SL's
 
DuncanDoughnuts said:
2 Products based on the current....
one with a R in it and another with a K in it.
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Spesh's own motor approach worked until it didn't. Tons of corporate inertia over there... hard to match the design agility of smaller brands allied with motor tech giants (DJI, Bosch).

Their motor wasn't even what held them back in the PB field test, it was stubborn old geo. Classic Spesh... front wheel wants to push in corners cause the rear center is too short to keep up with the reach in their larger sizes.

PB showed up with two tall dudes and tested an S5 (XL) and it revealed what I've been dealing with for years... the front loses traction in corners because stubborn geo.

If memory serves based on PB's visit to their short lived offsite MTB dev facility in Auburn, they actually have taller guys at the top of their management hierarchy designing/testing their bikes but apparently those individuals like to size down to an L / S4 because they like the smaller bikes feel.

So instead of putting a longer rear on the bike that fits them they choose a shorter reach so they can keep the chainstays short. And those guys are DESIGNING the bikes.
 
shenzi105 said:
I'll make my purchase decision by mid-February, if Spesh' reveals a new SL3 I might be more patient LOL.
Anyone knows when they'll have the Levo 4 600wh batteries for sale? Right now on the US website they're only showing the $1,600 800w ones.
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Don’t think they going to sell them till they release the light version Gen 4 and long travel
Gen 4 with lighter forks 600w battery etc etc to get it at 20 kgs
Probably then they’ll start selling them the above bike probably release end Feb
 
DylanJM said:
If it's just gonna be a light build Levo 4 and a long travel Levo 4 it will be very disappointing. Only other thing I can think of that could win more customers is a new front triangle with a smaller battery form factor and keep same drive unit.
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Not that I expect it to happen, but lower prices would win a lot more customers than a slimmer downtube.
 
Georgedukesa said:
Don’t think they going to sell them till they release the light version Gen 4 and long travel
Gen 4 with lighter forks 600w battery etc etc to get it at 20 kgs
Probably then they’ll start selling them the above bike probably release end Feb
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I wonder, is this because the levo 4 isnt selling as anticipated? Ppl want a lighter bike, so Specialized threw this together to moves the frames? Its dropping with the power increase as well… 🤔
 
Blownoutrides said:
Spesh's own motor approach worked until it didn't. Tons of corporate inertia over there... hard to match the design agility of smaller brands allied with motor tech giants (DJI, Bosch).

Their motor wasn't even what held them back in the PB field test, it was stubborn old geo. Classic Spesh... front wheel wants to push in corners cause the rear center is too short to keep up with the reach in their larger sizes.

PB showed up with two tall dudes and tested an S5 (XL) and it revealed what I've been dealing with for years... the front loses traction in corners because stubborn geo.

If memory serves based on PB's visit to their short lived offsite MTB dev facility in Auburn, they actually have taller guys at the top of their management hierarchy designing/testing their bikes but apparently those individuals like to size down to an L / S4 because they like the smaller bikes feel.

So instead of putting a longer rear on the bike that fits them they choose a shorter reach so they can keep the chainstays short. And those guys are DESIGNING the bikes.
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People hung up on the stock chainstay number so they change it imeadiatly and then wonder why the front feels heavy and is pushing. Lenghening the stays, lowers the BB significantly and steepens the head angle. Sure those guys better riders and i havent tried all the bikes, but not testing it in the stock setting is a mistake imo and led to the bad review.
 
Ribinrobin said:
This is probably why no one can buy the 600wh battery yet. Saving it for the levo chunky boy sl
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I know of another bike that has a 600w battery that is about to come out, that has a really well thought out removable design. And if the price is correct that has been indicated it should be around 50% less
2WHLFUN said:
I noticed the used emtb site Upway is flooded with leftover Specialized SL's
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The SL has always been a hard sell. Tech guy at local store said never understood as to why it was bought out.
2WHLFUN said:
I noticed the used emtb site Upway is flooded with leftover Specialized SL's
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I had an SL for a week when it came out, thought the bike it self was great. But it was just crying out for the bigger motor. If they had done that it would have cleaned up, with that light agile frame.
FrogSkunk said:
I wonder, is this because the levo 4 isnt selling as anticipated? Ppl want a lighter bike, so Specialized threw this together to moves the frames? Its dropping with the power increase as well… 🤔
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its a slow seller here in UK.
DylanJM said:
If it's just gonna be a light build Levo 4 and a long travel Levo 4 it will be very disappointing. Only other thing I can think of that could win more customers is a new front triangle with a smaller battery form factor and keep same drive unit.
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111nm and 850w is a nice bump though.
 
Ride 2d@y said:
Enduro EMTB named Enduro - replaces Kenevo and Kenevo SL
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Speculation? Or have you heard info indicating this?

I have thought for a while that Specialized might repurpose their Enduro namesake for an emtb product. Emtbs have done a number on normal enduro bikes so I don't think manufactures really want to invest that much developing in that section the market anymore. Enduro as a race format is on it's way out (at least UCI wise) which doesn't help either.
 
same as others here, heard that it's an different Levo 4, the 600 wh battery, small differences on suspensions, priced pretty high.
all my SL buddies love their SL's and bought it for their specific reasons, all my full power Levo Gen3 and Gen4 buddies love their Levos too.
The debate around the necessity of the SL is a bit stupid imo, to each his own, terrains are different, use are different, the feel one wants off a bike is different to each individual. I understand the SL, as much as I totally understand those who don't want an SL. I'm happy though that manufacturers give us freedom of choice
 
With a 600wh most people are going to need to buy a extra battery 💰💰
 
DS. said:
With a 600wh most people are going to need to buy a extra battery 💰💰
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Or just buy the standard Levo or the range extender? This rumored bike is most likely just an additional model of the current Levo with a weight conscious spec, the other models will with 840wh will still be available.
 
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