Manual machine Day

[Tmacca]

Manual machine

• Tmacca
• Aug 29, 2018

Decided to make a manual machine today, had to fit a few different wheel sizes. Fits my acoustic...

 

[spr0cket]

Excellent - though I'd need a restraint strap on the front

 

[Donnie797]

Very nice, you can do it already!
I've never even tried to build one cause i'm afraid i would destroy my rear-wheel when the sideways-balancing is off....

 

[Gary]

Manus l machines are a complete waste of time as they don't actually replicate what's required when manualling a moving bike in the slightest .
Go outside and learn to manual while moving.
Manuals are pretty much my favourite thing to do on a bike. Practice a lot. It's worth it.

 

[Tmacca]

Excellent - though I'd need a restraint strap on the front

Might be a good idea as i almost flipped

 

[Tmacca]

Very nice, you can do it already!
I've never even tried to build one cause i'm afraid i would destroy my rear-wheel when the sideways-balancing is off....

you can make it quite secure

 

[Tmacca]

Manus l machines are a complete waste of time as they don't actually replicate what's required when manualling a moving bike in the slightest .
Go outside and learn to manual while moving.
Manuals are pretty much my favourite thing to do on a bike. Practice a lot. It's worth it.

oh come on Princess manual machines are great fun.
But yea, not sure how it will translate to trails. i can manual myself outta trouble and play a bit between rollers , though not keep the balance for more than a few meters.
Thought it would be a grand way to see body position with video more than anything and how close I could get ze butt to the wheel.

 

[Donnie797]

not so long ago i spent 1,5 hours training wheelies and nothing else - before that i still was at the point of finding that damn balance point and not trying to hold the wheel up just by adding speed... that really helped a lot for manuals as well. Need to train that more often....

 

[Gary]

Just to clarify. I can manual well and have been able to for many many years. I tried a manual machine last year. It's nothing like manualling. But if you'd rather put your bike in a stand to bar hump your bike in the privacy of your own home go for it.

 

[Tmacca]

Just to clarify. I can manual well and have been able to for many many years. I tried a manual machine last year. It's nothing like manualling. But if you'd rather put your bike in a stand to bar hump your bike in the privacy of your own home go for it.

No need your to clarify mate. I can tell from your posts that your most likely a pretty advanced rider plus I find them informative and sometimes entertaining, your post on crashes was hilarious

It's nothing like manualling. But if you'd rather put your bike in a stand to bar hump your bike in the privacy of your own home go for it.

Not sure if your taking the micky but I had a good laugh at this, makes me sound serious kinky My riding mates will defiantly love that line.
I still believe the Manual Machine can be an aid for me, view my mistakes/body position on camera, feels fun, not the same leg pushing sensation as the real deal, and if nothing else makes me want to practice more than I already do on the trails.
On that note, did you find a manual much more difficult on your ebike than acoustic bike or is the weight a benefit once balance found, any tips ?

 

[Tmacca]

But if you'd rather put your bike in a stand to bar hump your bike in the privacy of your own home go for it.

oh god i cant stop laughing, thats so bad

 

[Donnie797]

For me, the added weight and geometry of the Kenevo makes it more difficult than on my non-e Ghost enduro. And with the light hardtail it’s close to dangerous how easy i can lift that front up, i feel like doing a backflip everytime ^^

 

[Gary]

@Tmacca the weight is neither a hindrance or an advantage. Its just different. The preload required to reach the balance point is much much more. And the balance point is higher so it actually took a little while and a bit of intentional practice to get them dialed. But now I have them it's no problem switching from one bike to another.. No different from switching between say my BMX, hardtail or Enduro bike to DH.
I learned to manual brakeless and being self taught I never did the "L" shape maneuver mtb skills coaches all teach. I just move my weight diagonally down and back hanging off the bars straight to balance point. I found using the rear brake on my Ebike beneficial for the first time so had to learn this (harder than you might think for someone so used to not using a brake)
The biggest tip I can give you is practice on tarmac/concrete as the bike rolls so much more quickly and consistently. Find a quiet road/car park or whatever near where you live you can go to easily and practice every day. A slight downhill is nice but not essential. Flatland manuals are slower and harder to hold when learning but if you get them good you'll end up a better rider for it.
Even if you only have a few minutes a day just go out and practice. The beauty of manuals is that you really can pull them anywhere.