Levo Gen 3 Magic Mary Radial on the back?

[unclezz]

I am just wondering if anybody already tried the new Magic Mary Radial on the back of the Gen 3.
I need to replace tyres and I am thinking to go with MM front and rear, but getting the radial version on the back

 

[unclezz]

I run Mary's front and rear but thankfully not on a specialized

Are you running the Radial version? On what bike?

 

[disco disco]

Im thinking to do the same thing. Except magic in front and big Betty out back

 

[salko]

Topic is about radial tires, Big Betty does not exist in radial casing ...

 

[cleoent]

I'm running both the MM radial F/R on my SL2 and the albert F/R on my G4.

Both are game changers and all the hoopla is worth it.

 

[Durrti]

I am just wondering if anybody already tried the new Magic Mary Radial on the back of the Gen 3.
I need to replace tyres and I am thinking to go with MM front and rear, but getting the radial version on the back

I like the way it rode, it only gave me 300ish miles before it was bald though. Thinking of trying the shredda similar tread pattern, huge knob’s.

 

[John_likes_bikes]

I have a 29er, only Ultra Soft available, which I wouldn't use for a rear. Up front it's amazing. Depending on your conditions MM front and ALbert rear is a great option. If you have a MX the Soft compound is available in 27.5. Again, all depends on the conditions you ride in.

 

[xtraman122]

The Vala comes with radial MM front/rear and people seem to like it from what I’ve seen.

 

[unclezz]

I have a 29er, only Ultra Soft available, which I wouldn't use for a rear. Up front it's amazing. Depending on your conditions MM front and ALbert rear is a great option. If you have a MX the Soft compound is available in 27.5. Again, all depends on the conditions you ride in.

Conditions are variable because I ride all seasons. In fact I prefer a tyre that can work on hard pack as well as lose terrain. On the SL I ride with MM front and Big Betty rear and i really like the combo.

I may get the Albert rear but maybe is too much and MM will be more balanced.

 

[Hiltix]

There are better Tyres for back than MM. In my opinion is Albert the much better solution, that's what I am running.

 

[unclezz]

There are better Tyres for back than MM. In my opinion is Albert the much better solution, that's what I am running.

In what conditions are you running it and in what do you thinK is better?

 

[xtraman122]

Conditions are variable because I ride all seasons. In fact I prefer a tyre that can work on hard pack as well as lose terrain. On the SL I ride with MM front and Big Betty rear and i really like the combo.

I may get the Albert rear but maybe is too much and MM will be more balanced.

I run the Albert/MM combo, I like it. My conditions are pretty mixed, hard packed loam with roots to loose gravel in some areas, lots of leaves in the fall, and tons of rocks everywhere (I’m in New England so we have mixed seasons and varying conditions, just none of the true hard packed desert looking stuff people out west get).

I’ll say I was amazed at how well the Albert could grip the rock faces, I’ve made it up a few insanely steep climbs, some on pure rock (Granite mostly) and made it up with zero slip. I think the MM would excel in the more loose stuff, both wet and dry probably, and maybe do a better job of trying to poke through the leaves in the fall, but I’m very happy with the combo I have. Maybe I’ll try a MM in the back once I kill the Albert just to compare, but I have a feeling I’d end up on the same combo eventually anyway. I have both in the softest compound and trail casing.

The general reviews on the radial tires have been universally good from what I’ve seen, literally everyone seems to say they’re an improvement over regular casings so you really can’t go wrong. Pick the compound based on your conditions, front tread almost always seems to be MM, and the choice between MM or Albert in the back is probably just preference and up to your conditions.

 

[John_likes_bikes]

+1 for the MM/Albert combo for handpscked and loose over hard. Albert starts to pack up in soft/loamy conditions under breaking but otherwise for varied terrain it's the best all around.

 

[unclezz]

I run the Albert/MM combo, I like it. My conditions are pretty mixed, hard packed loam with roots to loose gravel in some areas, lots of leaves in the fall, and tons of rocks everywhere (I’m in New England so we have mixed seasons and varying conditions, just none of the true hard packed desert looking stuff people out west get).

I’ll say I was amazed at how well the Albert could grip the rock faces, I’ve made it up a few insanely steep climbs, some on pure rock (Granite mostly) and made it up with zero slip. I think the MM would excel in the more loose stuff, both wet and dry probably, and maybe do a better job of trying to poke through the leaves in the fall, but I’m very happy with the combo I have. Maybe I’ll try a MM in the back once I kill the Albert just to compare, but I have a feeling I’d end up on the same combo eventually anyway. I have both in the softest compound and trail casing.

The general reviews on the radial tires have been universally good from what I’ve seen, literally everyone seems to say they’re an improvement over regular casings so you really can’t go wrong. Pick the compound based on your conditions, front tread almost always seems to be MM, and the choice between MM or Albert in the back is probably just preference and up to your conditions.

I am attracted by the Albert better rolling but also a bit unsure about the fact that it prefers hard packed terrains.
I had a Maxxis Dissector on the other bike where also I wanted to prioritize the rolling resistance over the loose terrain abilities and honestly during winter I struggled a bit too much with it

I will think about them and then will take my decision.

 

[xtraman122]

I am attracted by the Albert better rolling but also a bit unsure about the fact that it prefers hard packed terrains.
I had a Maxxis Dissector on the other bike where also I wanted to prioritize the rolling resistance over the loose terrain abilities and honestly during winter I struggled a bit too much with it

I will think about them and then will take my decision.

I wouldn't even have rolling resistance be much of a concern with en e-bike unless you're always in Eco or something. If you're consistently in a lot of loose stuff I'd definitely give the MM a try in the rear, it'll definitely be my next rear tire to try out once I kill the Albert.

 

[Bazzer485]

I’ve just put an Albert in the front, ultra soft and after a lot of debate I’m going with the same on the back. I’m a slow rider but the trails around here have got fairly technical after the heavy rains last winter have washed a lot of soil away leaving a ton of pointy rocks exposed. The Albert on the front has a lot of grip.
So I’ll report more when my new tire shows up.

 

[Hiltix]

What about the Shredda Radial on back when it's getting more muddy?

 

[Bazzer485]

What about the Shredda Radial on back when it's getting more muddy?I’m in Northern California, we won’t see any rain until October, maybe November! It’s now the start of wildfire season!

 

[unclezz]

At the end I decided to go with MM radial front and rear. Super trail/ultra soft front and super gravity/soft rear.

Hopefully I will get them by tomorrow and get them installed over the weekend.

 

[Jeff H]

I am just wondering if anybody already tried the new Magic Mary Radial on the back of the Gen 3.
I need to replace tyres and I am thinking to go with MM front and rear, but getting the radial version on the back

I’ve been running trail ultrasoft front and gravity soft rear for a couple of months. The rear won’t last long in my conditions. Loose rocks/gravel over hard is tearing them up from both e-power climbing and slowing down the beast on the descents. I’m probably going to try the Shredda next. Maybe even Shredda rear on the front. I’m thinking the intermediate transition knobs might be the way to go on both F and R for me.

 

[irie]

I’ve been running trail ultrasoft front and gravity soft rear for a couple of months. The rear won’t last long in my conditions. Loose rocks/gravel over hard is tearing them up from both e-power climbing and slowing down the beast on the descents. I’m probably going to try the Shredda next. Maybe even Shredda rear on the front. I’m thinking the intermediate transition knobs might be the way to go on both F and R for me.

That's what @Rob Rides EMTB said below:

Post in thread 'Schwalbe radial tyres' Schwalbe radial tyres

Edit: Assegai on left

 

[Bazzer485]

For me I will put a shredda on the back and front for the winter which is likely to start in November
Baz
Geriatric rider over eighty

 

[Downhillr]

I am just wondering if anybody already tried the new Magic Mary Radial on the back of the Gen 3.
I need to replace tyres and I am thinking to go with MM front and rear, but getting the radial version on the back

I’ve run Maxxis (originals), Conti, Michelin e-wild previously on my SC Bullit and have been riding the new MM radial on F& R (Gravity Pro “Ultra Soft” front, Gravity Pro “Soft” rear) for about 2-3 months. I love the tires with that casing on e-bike, no need for inserts and the tires run smooth with great traction and response (note: you'll find you need to run 2-4 psi than you do on non-radial). Id like to see Schwalbe come out with radial Big Betty for rear as combo.

 

[Jeff H]

That's what @Rob Rides EMTB said below:

Post in thread 'Schwalbe radial tyres' Schwalbe radial tyres

Edit: Assegai on left

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The Loam Wolf recently posted an MTB tire group test on their YouTube channel and raved about the Shredda‘s. The conditions were loose and rocky like many parts of California in the hot dry summer, not the winter slop you’d assume the tire is only meant for. I also saw an interview somewhere with a Schwalbe rep who recommended the Shredda for loose gravel and rocks, not only for muddy winters. Unfortunately they didn’t try the rear as a front tire.

 

[irie]

@Jeff H

Tread pattern of Shredda rear does look to be a more suitable profile for both front and rear than the official Shredda front.

 

[Downhillr]

At the end I decided to go with MM radial front and rear. Super trail/ultra soft front and super gravity/soft rear.

Hopefully I will get them by tomorrow and get them installed over the weekend.

I believe those casing descriptions are for prior (non-radial) versions of the original tires. Plenty of them on sale.

 

[Downhillr]

I believe those casing descriptions are for prior (non-radial) versions of the original tires. Plenty of them on sale.

Note: the new radial versions are called “Trail Pro”, “Gravity Pro” and say Radial on sidewall.

 

[Jeff H]

At the end I decided to go with MM radial front and rear. Super trail/ultra soft front and super gravity/soft rear.

Hopefully I will get them by tomorrow and get them installed over the weekend.

Let us know what you think after a couple of months of riding.

 

[unclezz]

I believe those casing descriptions are for prior (non-radial) versions of the original tires. Plenty of them on sale

Yes, you are correct. I mentioned the old naming convention. But I got the radial trail pro/ultrasoft and gravity pro/soft Same concept, just different name.

 

[Downhillr]

Yes, you are correct. I mentioned the old naming convention. But I got the radial trail pro/ultrasoft and gravity pro/soft Same concept, just different name.

Oh, good, since radial replaces their existing non-radial tech and Schwalbe also rebadged so I was hoping you would be reviewing new tech version.