That would be me. Its the same. As far as anyone could try to claim at least. All the hardware actually has Teewing labels including the headset, and the frame would have too if I didnt ask not to have it (which I probably shouldn't have, but there were not reviews in the wild at the time). It was ~3500 shipped to the US. Ordered in August.
Great report, thanks. Mine ordered similarly. For those doing the own painting, about how hard would it be to disassemble the frame 'as delivered' to componet parts for sanding, etc.
We have noticed some recent misunderstandings regarding the manufacturing source of the Teewing frames. We would like to clarify that our frames are independently designed by our team and manufactured by the largest carbon fiber factory in China, which also produces frames for many well-known bicycle brands. Our frames are definitely not manufactured by LC.
Trivial I'd say, just undo the bolts and run with it. Just note the lower shock mount is an area of quite tight tolerances. I had to sand it down due to overspray even from LC (about 0.4mm off by my measurement).
I'm really not sure thats the hole you want to be digging here... time would show quite quickly if 6 or more framesets + motors ship out.
Yeah... I can't imagine they actually switched frame suppliers that fast, but I bet they lambasted LC for selling any frames direct and mentioning it was the Teewing frame and put them under some NDA to mention the Teewing name at all or disclose that they're making anything for them. Which sucks, but I get it, if I was Teewing I wouldn't want the frame manufacturer selling frames direct as well, especially without the logo if they actually did do the design and just asked LC to manufacture it. Now if LC designed the whole thing and Teewing just decided to buy them in bulk I would feel differently.
And if they already had frames made somehow, why would they need to be giving them to LC??? Bizarre story. The lies some of these guys tell are wild.
That is the unique mold of Teewing.
@JimLee-Lightcarbon Given this weird relationship with Teewing is whatever it is, do you at LC have any plans of making your own DJI based frame to sell?
If the frame was $3500 shipped to the US, what duty were you charged to get it to your door? Frames from China have 3 import duty hits: standard harmonized tariff duty + Section 301 Trade Act + Cheeto's Reciprocal Tariff. Currently this is like a 55% duty.
That was duties included. I cant say it will be the same when you do it now, since the rules seem to be changing by the day.
As of a few years ago, there was a weird wrinkle in Chinese trade rules, where a manufacturer of goods could not also be the exporter. In other words, someone who wanted to have a vertically integrated company was required to separate manufacturing and distribution/export into 2 separate companies. As a result, you could get situations where an export company like Light Bicycle is selling rims, and talking about "their factory" and, for most intents and purposes, it is "their factory", but it will be called something different like "XYZ Industrial" on paper. Even though they share ownership, they're not technically the same company.Yeah... I can't imagine they actually switched frame suppliers that fast, but I bet they lambasted LC for selling any frames direct and mentioning it was the Teewing frame and put them under some NDA to mention the Teewing name at all or disclose that they're making anything for them. Which sucks, but I get it, if I was Teewing I wouldn't want the frame manufacturer selling frames direct as well, especially without the logo if they actually did do the design and just asked LC to manufacture it. Now if LC designed the whole thing and Teewing just decided to buy them in bulk I would feel differently.
Their story makes no sense whatsoever. They’re implying LC took a handful of free frames they were given and went through all the trouble to strip the paint and resell them just to make a few bucks on freebie frames?? Give me a break
Afaik, no one else has confirmed receipt of a paint stripped frames besides me, and that was only on my specific request, so I wouldn't worry too much about the specific # statement. I feel like my contact would have mentioned if they had limited stock.
Yeah, I'm with you 100% in regard to that a bike doesn't need to be designed from scratch, using a totally revolutionary design, to be good. I often wonder, when there is a bike that is universally acclaimed, WTF the manufacturer is thinking when they do a total overhaul/change of design on the next revision, rather than a few subtle tweaks. Similarly, I often wonder why more companies don't copy a "known good" bike, perhaps with some improvements if they have some good ideas and insight, but this constant starting from scratch seems to leave a lot of companies in a tough financial situation with unsold inventory, and it leaves a lot of riders with crap kinematics, geo, or hardware design, when this stuff should be pretty well figured out by now. Regarding the location of the Teewing design team, our discussion prompted me to do some really deep digging
(their own website!) and I found this, which must be the source of what I'd heard about the Euro design team: About UsThanks for the deep dive, going to the "about us" part of a website marketing section as per the "wink" emoji. Regarding the location of the Teewing design team, our discussion prompted me to do some really deep digging
but I wanted to give full context)| June 15 2025 (Round 2, Romania – WES UCI E‑MTB XC World Cup – Cheile Grădiştei) | Team event & individual | Théo Charmes & Giulia Bertoni | Charmes won the men’s race; Bertoni podiumed in the women’s race; team took the team title. Teewing Bikes |
| October 11 2025 (Final Round – WES UCI E‑MTB XC World Cup – Massa Marittima) | Men’s & Women’s races | • Bertoni (Women) 5th place • Charmes (Men) 12th place mgmtiming.it+1 |
| October 4 2025 (Round – WES UCI E‑MTB XC World Cup – Olbia) | Women & Men | Bertoni finished 4th in Women’s race; Charmes finished 4th in Men’s despite technical problems. |
Yeah, I agree fully. I was even zooming in on the pics of their Italian team as there is a lot of data on the monitors in the pics, and I was hoping to glean something valuable, but the resolution wasn't sufficient to make anything out. Maybe some sort of image-enhancing and detail-sharpening program could make it legible, but that was as much time as I was willing to invest.Thanks for the deep dive, going to the "about us" part of a website marketing section as per the "wink" emoji
I believe that the design is right in the hunt for what will be relatively "state of the art" currently and in the near future. However, speaking of their claims on the "about us", I have a few items below that could use some clarification: (Warning, long post ahead
Claim: “With over 15 years of research and development experience serving high-end bicycle brands”
Reality check:
Teewing as a brand appears to have launched around 2023 (their own website says this).
There’s no public record of a company called Teewing operating before that under another name in the bicycle industry.
Therefore, the “15 years” almost certainly refers not to the company, but to individual engineers or their manufacturing partner(s) having experience working on OEM/ODM contracts for other brands.
Possible truth:
Some of their staff or partner factory engineers probably did do contract manufacturing or R&D for other known bike brands for many years (common in China, Taiwan, or Italy). But:Frami ng this as “our team has 15 years of R&D experience serving high-end brands” is ambiguous marketing language — technically plausible, but not evidence of Teewing itself having 15 years of history. It’s a credibility inflation tactic.
Claim: “Leveraging strategic partnerships with one of the world’s top ten manufacturing factories”
Reality check:
“Top ten” has no objective ranking body — it’s a marketing superlative, not a verified fact.
They don’t name the factory. That’s a red flag if you’re looking for transparency.
Many new e-bike startups use this kind of phrasing to sound established (“we partner with one of the top OEMs”), when in fact they might just be sourcing from a competent but generic large-scale Chinese OEM.
Verdict: Fluffy marketing phrase — no verifiable metric behind “top ten manufacturing factories.”
Claim: “Our journey is bolstered by a strong collaboration with our trusted Italian partners … to ensure they meet the rigorous demands of the European market.”
Reality check:
They do have Italian riders and possibly design collaborators (the Teewing Factory Team includes Italian racers and references an Italian design office).
However, this could mean simply that some product testing or design input happens in Italy, while production is still done in Asia.
Possible truth:
They probably have Italian consultants and testers helping tune geometry and handling.
But:
The phrasing “strong collaboration with our trusted Italian partners” and “meticulous attention to detail of our Italian technical team” is classic brand storytelling — designed to make the product feel “European-engineered,” even if the bulk of R&D is elsewhere.
Claim: “Every product undergoes extreme trials to guarantee performance under the most challenging conditions.”
Reality check:
There’s no publicly available data (test protocols, lab certifications, ISO/EN test reports) to substantiate that.
“Extreme trials” and “guarantee performance” are narrative phrases, not measurable claims.
Verdict: 100% marketing copy, not engineering documentation.
I’m sure like you said, they had 3 guys on the team that helped with the design each with 5 years experience in the industry and concluded they could market the phrase “15 years experience”, one of my old employers did that to come up with some ludicrous number for their experience.
I saw someone mention they had a burlier bike coming but didn’t know anything had been leaked yet. Is there a source of that pic with more info or is just a leaked image? Looks so much better with the Teewing logo more subdued.
Tbh, the teewing frame is plenty burly enough, just put stronger components on it if you want to enduro.
