Kenevo Gen1 Kenevo Prime
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Bummer if it’s 29. Sounds like an enduro SL. I was hoping for just a newer version of the 2020 with shock down low and maybe a little lighter. I really don’t understand why the kenevo is so much heavier than the levo? Has any tried to lighten their kenevo build? I wonder what you could get it down to.
according to the internet the 2020 kenevo is 5lbs more than the levo comp. I guess that could be down to build.
according to the internet the 2020 kenevo is 5lbs more than the levo comp. I guess that could be down to build.
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I had my 2020 down to 52.5lbs at one point. She is 54lbs now, about 3 lbs heavier than my levo comp..
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
probbaly all of the above, but definitely because it’s slacker, more of a ground hugging monster (if it’s anything like the enduro that it’s modeled after), more travel, short offset fork, etc.
19.1kg isn’t terrible. My guess is you could drop to 18.5 or 18kg with lighter bars, lighter cassette (assuming gx or nx given spesh spec), carbon wheels, and lighter fork. The mezzer is 200-300 grams ligjter than the fox 38, and it’s in the same class. Heck my sl is probably 18.5-19kg as it sits right now with a coil, but I haven’t had the heart to weigh it
glad they have an expert. Maybe just maybe it will be under $10k usd ?
Seagrave7
Member
Interesting that no moderator has taken the pictures down....................
I think the first one isn't real, so they've not bothered.
@Chris1969's is nicely taken, so it doesn't reveal anymore of the bike than we already know about based on the patent.
Or it could be that they're all just on holiday. It is E-Stare after all. According to the EMTBWIKI that's a very important EMTB holiday as it remembers that fabled day when the first ever levo motor was swapped and the bike was resurrected after only 3 days in the shop.
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
I mean.. it's an enduro with SL guts. We all know that now The real speculation is in the numbers... price, Geo, kinematics, price, spec, price, motor torque, battery size, price...
Rahr85
E*POWAH Master
but being a specialized people will complain about the price and still make it sell out.
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
Interesting . I never really checked what output I can get from the motor on the sl, but I do recall peak power being more than advertised. Though it very well could be boosted a bit or torque curve more optimal for peak power.
do you happen to know what mode you were in?
I think the SL's put out a max of approximately 300w (in). Which then translates to 240w output due to motor efficiencies.
I checked it in 25/100, 50/100 and 100/100 in Eco/Trail/Turbo
I see, never checked on my SL because i never ride with a phone, so no motor data for me. The new TCU shows motor and rider power permanently.
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
They probably tweaked the output curve a bit. Maybe more torque peak or different peak , but power output the same.
Yes, they don't necessarily have to increase the total power. But it could feel a bit perkier with a few tuning changes ?
You're probably a bit limited on what you can say, so I won't ask any of the 100 questions I have
You're probably a bit limited on what you can say, so I won't ask any of the 100 questions I have
I might be wrong, but I think @levity did a bit of research/experimenting with the SL early on and part of me thinks that @Rob Rides EMTB did a video which also showed the 300 which corresponded to the 240 Spesh quote which equally fits with the efficiency they claim.
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
Pretty sure that you are right. I recall that as well. Personally, the SL is fine for me from a power perspective. I get up anything that I want, albeit with a bit of a struggle given the slack STA. More curious if they changed the battery size at all.
It's difficult to guess for certain with Chris's figures .. is it ally ? is it a plastic derivative and he wasn't joking .
Is it heavy from proper tyres, or does it have a 480wh in there for climbing fun ?!?!? ....
4 weeks to go ....
Do I order a Siryon .. or not ...
rydeezie
Well-known member
My SL climbs fine with current power. I use the SL when i ride solo. Hoping new Kenevo has slightly more power so I can keep up with FF ebikes on group rides. Otherwise I’ll just have to use my FF Kenevo
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
That's a good point. Rarely ride with FF guys anymore, but it would be a struggle to keep up if they were pushing and boosting.
They do sell two different cables already for the SL and the road bikes. The road ones are longer ..
jcmonty
E*POWAH Master
Seems about right if the prime has the same battery. You are fairly fit or light (in my estimate) with that 2.9w/kg figure, but that range seems reasonable.
fairly light: 70 Kilo
EMTB!
Active member
This is mine with pedals, inserts, fox 40 and x2 with 500Wh battery which seems to be fine for plenty of laps at the BP. I could definitely get it down a bit more with RS Boxxer back on and RS air shock remove cushcore etc. Fun bike, but now I'd rather ride the Levo 3!
EMTB!
Active member
Anyone have any updates on this new bike? 4/28 came and went...
It's in the other Kenevo SL thread, but basically due to supply issues/delays - blame the never giving suez fiasco - they decided to put back the date until the 14th May/13th depending where you are in the world.
rydeezie
Well-known member
2022 lol
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