Is this the sleeper EMTB of 2023?

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I had one on order for over a year, as this was announced in 2022, but after continuous delays and 3 bad reviews (incredibly good in a straight line, not great in corners) I cancelled and got the Crestline.
I was really torn about cancelling because even if it is bad, that build kit could be used on some other build.
I was nervous that the long CS might make it a bit sluggish on the smaller sizes, but I am super curious. Would love to hear Rob's take to see if I've missed out on the bargain of a century.
 
Hattori-Hanzo said:
Got to see one of these in the flesh yesterday at the bike park. It looks even nicer in person, the colours have a metallic sheen and the suspension looks sweet, the only thing I wasn't keen on is the green on the rear triangle.
Still love the look of it though.

Chatting to the guy who was coming off an older Haibike which had the pw2 motor, he said the 8 with the pw3 felt a bit sluggish compared to his old bike, I've ridden the pw2 motor, and it is eager to get going, but he put it down to the slacker geo and 27Kg weight! The pw3 is definitely more powerful.
He also mentioned app support is pretty much non-existent, so no ability to customise power delivery like the Bosch smart system.

Like you say as a down hill sender I bet it's amazing, and it will get you back to the top fairly well, but as an all day adventure bike with it's weight I'd struggle.

Reaffirmed my choice with the Stereo 160 but for £4200 it's got to be the bargain of the year.
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Is the PW3 and PWX two different motors?
I just brought a 2023 reign I'm guessing its a PWX Motor, has lots of tuning adjustment.
My last bike was a 2022 trance which had more basic tuning but could still adjust power in each level.
Maybe they using a older control system on the Haibike
 
Sorry, typo on my post. It uses the pw-x3.
I've no personal experience with the motor just information from reviews.

I believe it's a haibike issue, they don't currently have an app to customise the motor. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

As I understand Giant do have a customisable app.
 
Another bargain in the Haibike range is the Lyke CF11. Great looking, full carbon, fantastic spec, SL with FAZUA ride 60, can now be had at 4k if you shop around, nuts
 
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Would be really interested to know what ebikes you currently have personally @Rob Rides EMTB not those you have supplied on test and why you have kept those ones :unsure:

I presume you still have the full 29" Kenevo ?
 
Saw the single crown version at a recent event, definitely looked sorted in the flesh, wouldn't have any issue being seen on one.

As above, I have the giant reign 2022 with the same motor (different software), coming from a 70nm shimano e8000, it doesn't really feel much more powerful, and I'm not really improving my times on Strava. It is a good motor and love the adjustments in the app, but not that punchy in steep stuff.
 
The Pole is ugly for sure, but it is as a result of its production process.
HaiBike just seem to pride themselves on producing fugly bikes.
 
Doomanic said:
The Pole is ugly for sure, but it is as a result of its production process.
HaiBike just seem to pride themselves on producing fugly bikes.
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Are you sure ?

I always thought Haibike made bikes specifically for celebrities or anyone who didn't want to be recognised.

It doesn't matter who you are, if you ride a Haibike it immediately gives you the ability to hide in plain sight whilst out in public.

No one EVER notices who's riding a Haibike, they're too busy tearing out their eyeballs, dry retching, convulsing, fleeing or dealing with HIPVS (Haibike induced Persistent Vegetative State)

Doesn't work with this model though as you can't help but say "Oooh, nice forks mate".
 
Are you going to call it Eric?
 
Zimmerframe said:
Are you sure ?

I always thought Haibike made bikes specifically for celebrities or anyone who didn't want to be recognised.

It doesn't matter who you are, if you ride a Haibike it immediately gives you the ability to hide in plain sight whilst out in public.

No one EVER notices who's riding a Haibike, they're too busy tearing out their eyeballs, dry retching, convulsing, fleeing or dealing with HIPVS (Haibike induced Persistent Vegetative State)

Doesn't work with this model though as you can't help but say "Oooh, nice forks mate".
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You never see us because they're always effin breaking and we are stuck in doors trying to get any kind of support / warranty or sourcing parts that dont exist anymore. as for the looks.... i love the beasts
 
RoJo said:
Let's have the DH eBike shootout Rob. Pole Vs Kenevo 29 Vs Haibike Vs Crestline Vs Canyon Torque On. That's what we all want to see 👍🤙
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Dh shootout for £4100 would be interesting. 🤔
 
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