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Anyone figured out how to ship an ebike and battery or an ebike battery separately around Europe? I fancy taking my bike on my holidays and cant find anyone who offers such a service - just alot of confusing regulations.
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I would like to go on holiday and take my ebike. As such i would need to transport my ebike from one place in Europe to another and wondered if anyone had any experience of this. I think the regulations regarding lithium ion battery transportation are international or at least Europe wide so the spefic send/ arrival destination are irrelevant. I would be flying, dont really care how the bike travels as long as it arrives i one peice
You can take the bike on a plane but the battery has to be shipped via ground due to the large lithium battery fire hazard on planes. I have found a few options:
1. you can ship the battery via ground with the hazmat fee just contact UPS/FedEx etc
2. Depending on the model you can contact bike or rental shops in the area to possibly rent or borrow a battery (a better network like Specialized is easier).
3. Ask around on this site to see if there is anyone at the travel location to borrow one (you could pay them in beer and have a riding buddy)
1. you can ship the battery via ground with the hazmat fee just contact UPS/FedEx etc
2. Depending on the model you can contact bike or rental shops in the area to possibly rent or borrow a battery (a better network like Specialized is easier).
3. Ask around on this site to see if there is anyone at the travel location to borrow one (you could pay them in beer and have a riding buddy)
@JetSetDemo may be able to help
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In the US you can do it though it is a giant pain in the ass. With UPS it has to be shipped separately from the bike, not on an airplane or ship, with a UPS Dangerous Goods contract, UN spec packaging, Class 9 label, with hazmat shipping papers and packaging markings. I have shipped and received hazardous materials with the same level of precautions before.
But it is far easier to contact bike shops at your location. I still don't know what bike you have but if you have Specialized, Bosch or Shimano you should be good.
But it is far easier to contact bike shops at your location. I still don't know what bike you have but if you have Specialized, Bosch or Shimano you should be good.
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I have a trek powerfly 8lt with a bosch motor for what its worth. I think im going to give the idea up as a bad job. Your comments and the youtube video ive posted suggest its going to be a giant hassle. Sounds like a bit of an opportunity for bike shop's to help out. I'd pay a tenner for them to do all the paper work if all i had to do was drop the battery off at nearby ups/dhl etc
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So there is a max wh size you can take on an airplane we do it with dive lights and such. What it needs is the manufacturers to make a modular battery to seperate into legal size bits. From memory i think the max wh you can carry is 360wh so a good sized ebike battery would just need to break in half
100 Wh.
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From easyjet
maximum of one spare battery not exceeding 300 Wh or two spares not exceeding 160 Wh each may be carried. 4. The pilot-in-command must be informed of the location of the lithium ion battery(ies); 5.
maximum of one spare battery not exceeding 300 Wh or two spares not exceeding 160 Wh each may be carried. 4. The pilot-in-command must be informed of the location of the lithium ion battery(ies); 5.
100 Wh is for shipping. 300 Wh is for wheelchairs.
On IATA website there is this :
https://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/passenger-lithium-battery.pdf
The limit is 160 Wh, with a maximum of 2. In a future with smaller stackable batteries, better to go with 100 Wh as the limit is 20!
And this regulation seems valid for ebike too and not only portable electronic devices since several airlines mention explicitly than ebike batteries of more than 160 Wh are prohibited.
On IATA website there is this :
https://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/passenger-lithium-battery.pdf
The limit is 160 Wh, with a maximum of 2. In a future with smaller stackable batteries, better to go with 100 Wh as the limit is 20!
And this regulation seems valid for ebike too and not only portable electronic devices since several airlines mention explicitly than ebike batteries of more than 160 Wh are prohibited.
So could you ship with one 160wh on the bike and three 100wh in hand luggage? Then just clip em together.
Im sure we have carried UW scooter batteries that were bigger than 160wh though maybe they weren't lithium cant remember
Im sure we have carried UW scooter batteries that were bigger than 160wh though maybe they weren't lithium cant remember
I take my own bike, but everywhere that I have been be it France, Belgium, Germany, Austria and Switzerland, all have an endless amount of places in which to hire ebikes. The cost is also often amazingly cheap.
Sorry for the late reply, we do offer IDG (international dangerous goods) I work at UPS in the uk, just got back from the F1 in Spa (we sponsor Ferrari) service was introduced in to Europe last year and is growing. The best way would be to go via ground, super easy, takes a couple of days to most of Europe, if you want to fly it express that’s a little more complex. I am away in Ireland with work for the rest of this week but I will put something up on line next week or at least have a word with marketing over pricing.
A couple of points. Islands and ground shipping of Lion battery’s are a bit of a mine field, it’s to do with ADR and IATA basically there are different rules for road transport and air but road transport that has to use a ferry end up covered by maritime regulations and that’s where even UPS/FedEx/DHL all comeback unstuck,
One of the best ways I have thought about doing this is through the UPS Access point network. Basically you go to a local store, ship the battery to another access point at your destination and then collect it when you arrive.
Let me take a look when I am back next week and see what the documentation looks like and also the pricing, there may actually by a business opportunity in all this I’m not sure yet.
One of the best ways I have thought about doing this is through the UPS Access point network. Basically you go to a local store, ship the battery to another access point at your destination and then collect it when you arrive.
Let me take a look when I am back next week and see what the documentation looks like and also the pricing, there may actually by a business opportunity in all this I’m not sure yet.
MBE will work, UPS owns them ?I have a friend in Brokerage at UPS that Doomanic also knows he has been doing some digging, we cannot do air it’s to complex for us as individuals but we can do ground fairly easy, going to see if we can’t get sales involved next week and come up with a solution we could offer to forum members, watch this space......
actually it’s most of Europe, south America and plenty of Asian countries, no offices in NA thou
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Also, i just did a search on the ups website for ebike and it didnt return any results. Is it definatley the case that mbe are prepared to ship a 500wh ebike lithium ion battery? I only say this because i know people ship batteries without declaring what the are properly. Problem with this battery confiscation and criminal prosecution
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