cycling and aggressive dogs!

[Stihldog]

I bet that Collie can do longer and faster rides than you . My son has one........fast and never stops running!

…and incredibly smart.
His owner tells me that he just needs to say;”Go Find Stihl” while he’s on a hike and Cowboy starts work. Cowboy runs back and forth between me and the owner regardless of the distance and obstacles. He does not stop until his owner and I see each other.

My dogs brain (Luke) is a little bigger than a walnut …but he knows sign language and can count to three.

Oh!…and he likes to cuddle.

 

[Base]

Disclaimer; Mods, please don’t change my signature handle to the “Dog Whisper. I’m happy being a “tool”.

About 8 years ago my American Cocker Spaniel underwent a double inner ear operation.

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He could no longer hear but this operation improved, and possibly saved his life. I had to learn and use new commands for him. He’s adapted well…and so have I. Sign language and different personal behaviours became our method of communication.

I encounter trail dogs and dog walkers each day I ride. 99’9% of the owners have well behaved dogs . One particular dog walker exercises 6-8 very large dogs. I see him once or twice a week and those dogs are always on a leash. When I stop to speak with him, all the dogs sit and stare at him waiting for me next command. The dogs don’t look at me or my bike. It’s amazing to see.

A trail dog “Cowboy” will find me regardless of where I am. He suddenly shows up, usually between my legs, and scares the crap out of me. He then wines and cries and looks forward to my affection and the signature “double-head-scratch”. Several minutes later the owner shows up. Cowboy is my favourite trail dog.


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Me and Cowboy.

I had a bordie collie years ago and she loved coming out on the trails with me. Should see her sad face when I would get the bike ready and go out without her as she needed the recovery days. Furthest I ever took her was around 30km or so.

Most dogs I encounter along the trails are pretty good aside from the very few but I think its more the owners for not training them better.

 

[Stihldog]

I had a bordie collie years ago and she loved coming out on the trails with me. Should see her sad face when I would get the bike ready and go out without her as she needed the recovery days. Furthest I ever took her was around 30km or so.

Most dogs I encounter along the trails are pretty good aside from the very few but I think its more the owners for not training them better.

Yes. I can lead and walk my dog without a single doggie incident. He’s well behaved, focused and gets well exercised. But my wife refuses to walk him anymore. He goes bananas. She returns almost in tears and Luke is just wound-up. He thinks he needs to protect her from everything.

Dogs can sense things that we may not be aware of.

 

[Pazman]

I have had serval bad experiences just last year with dogs. First I stopped my bike to let a lady walk by with her dog , as the dog got level with me it bit my knee , luckily I had on knee pads .
The second time I was having a great ride through the local woods when out of nowhere a giant black bag jumped out a bush snapping at me trying to eat me .
I flicked my e-bike into race mode in the hope of loosing it , I was starting loose it as came to a broken tree which I have to duck under but don’t have time , hit my head and hurt my neck ,I was just getting over a previous neck injury from a bad crash where I landed on my head.
So I was pissed. , the tree did stop me dead but I was ready to stop and have go at the dog at this point but it had dropped off the chase . I shouted at the dog owner to keep her dog on a bloody Lead if it doesn’t like cyclists , to which they replied , it was my fault as I should have stopped ! When this great big thing jumped out a bush trying to bit me stopping wasn’t an option .
Cyclists in the wrong again ! We cannot ride out in the wilds , we cannot ride on the roads , where can we ride and not be in the wrong ha

 

[mmcengineer]

In another parralel universe there will be a dog forum complaining about angry mentalists on motorized bicycles

 

[Stihldog]

In another parralel universe there will be a dog forum complaining about angry mentalists on motorized bicycles

So my spiked collar and leash might come in handy.

 

[Zimmerframe]

So my spiked collar and leash might come in handy.

Are you ready to take them out of the bedroom though ....

 

[cleo1943]

When we go to Greece there can be several dogs roaming lose and these can be aggressive and chase cyclists.

Also, we have experienced dogs jumping at us - NOT ON LEADS - whilst cycling on cycle tracks, we have both been knocked off; who likes irresponsible dog owners?!

How to deter the dogs?
I was just wondering if anyone else has had any success with dog scarers like an Ultrasonic Dog Deterrent Device. Do they work? Reviews for them appear so misleading to say the least.

What do you use? Or do?

Use “Halt” pepper spray. No harm to the dogs but it will definitely deter them.

 

[Stihldog]

Are you ready to take them out of the bedroom though ....

Nooooo! They’re custom fit and included in the set…I’d never do that.

 

[jcismo1]

Another proponent of pepper spray, here. I’ve turned away approximately 50 aggressive dogs, through the years. Also, one should carry a “force continuum.” Case in point, one dog was so aggressive that it took a whole can of spray and kept coming at me in an aggressive manner. I called the sheriff’s office and told them that I would have no choice, but to shoot the dog, if it kept coming at me. I conveyed the same message to the dogs owner. In another incident, a Great Pyrenees dog came up and bit me in the thigh area. Thankfully it bit my pistol, which was in my pocket.

 

[Arminius]

On most rides I carry a pepper spray as there are to many dog owners here who do not know how to handle a dog at all and treat them like a kid.

Anyhow, the TO talked about dogs in Greece what might be a different story as these can be stray dogs.

PS:
I frequently shop food at a small local farm and „take care“ of a poor wire-haired dachshund, totally neglected animal. Otherwise I can not explain such need of for cosy scratching.

He is only on leach when alone as he has the tendency to run out and cross the bypassing road, was terrible hit by a car. Great little guy that once saved me from the other, friendly farm dog, a german wirehaired pointer.
We had our weekly crawling session when the farmer and the pointer came out of farm building, just a few metres away. Being surprised the pointer must have thought I did bad to the Dachshund and started running to attack me, when the Dachshund jumped up in front of me and started barking and growling at his dog mate. That stopped last moment and was somewhat confused. Like the farmer and me.

Hey, no stoppimg! You are not done yet!

 

[edruid]

dogs can sense if you have a fancy plan eg pepper spray

 

[dave_uk]

I am in the UK - where pepper spray is illegal.

Not sure why there are so many posts of dogs, this is not a post your dog forum!
<start sarcasm>I know I will post a photo of my granny!</sarcasm>

BACK TO MY question: (please)
"any success with dog scarers like an Ultrasonic Dog Deterrent Device. Do they work?"

 

[mmcengineer]

I am in the UK - where pepper spray is illegal.

Not sure why there are so many posts of dogs, this is not a post your dog forum!
<start sarcasm>I know I will post a photo of my granny!</sarcasm>

BACK TO MY question: (please)
"any success with dog scarers like an Ultrasonic Dog Deterrent Device. Do they work?"

Is pepper spray illegal in Greece ? Is that where your original problem was?

 

[dave_uk]

Not sure, either way it would NOT get through customs.

 

[Guyt]

The two most common phrases dog owners say:

1) My dog doesn't bite.
2) My dog has never done that before.

 

[Arminius]

Ultrasonic devices are said to be helping sometimes.

To be sure this might help and when carried not in hand luggage there should be no problem with security:

Home - PIEXON AG

piexon.com

Maybe a bit over the top

 

[Renton_Yorkshire]

Unfortunately most of the time I have issues with dogs is when they are off lead, and ferreting around in bushes oblivious to the world around them. Where I ride on the trans pennine trail, many dog walkers are just carrying a lead with no dog on the end of it. Its then usually a case of me having to slow right down looking and listening for a dog thats either gonna come out of nowhere making a bee line for the front wheel, or running back to the owner. Its normally the dogs which are startled by my presence, or have simply decided I'm not worthy of sharing their oxygen that then start to bark and snarl.

Only been bitten once, last year by a springer spaniel, and I have to agree - first words out of the 'owners' mouth were "well it's never done that before!". I would say all dogs in public places ought to be on some form of lead or another - however, Ive also had too many experiences of almost been tangled in those extendable leads where an owner is on one side and a dog is attached out of sight on the other - hard to see those leads until the last minute

Can't win

 

[Jokipea]

I've not been bitten while on a ride but been chased by a wee "rat on a rope" type of dog. The mention of the guy walking several big dogs on the lead that obey him reminds me of something from years ago. The colliery I used to work at was being run down prior to closure. Whoever was in charge thought it would be a good idea to have the site patrolled by security guards to potentially prevent pilfering. One of these guards was patrolling at night accompanied by 2 large Alsations on leads when the dogs heard something and they set off in pursuit, with guard attached. He was dragged a good distance over rough ground and girders, wooden pit props in stock yard. He wasn't able to release leads for whatever reason. He ended up in hospital badly injured.
Any time I see people out exercising more than one dog I'm vary wary and try to give them a wide berth. If most owners cannot control their one dog, several dogs is a no-no.

 

[Renton_Yorkshire]

I've not been bitten while on a ride but been chased by a wee "rat on a rope" type of dog. The mention of the guy walking several big dogs on the lead that obey him reminds me of something from years ago. The colliery I used to work at was being run down prior to closure. Whoever was in charge thought it would be a good idea to have the site patrolled by security guards to potentially prevent pilfering. One of these guards was patrolling at night accompanied by 2 large Alsations on leads when the dogs heard something and they set off in pursuit, with guard attached. He was dragged a good distance over rough ground and girders, wooden pit props in stock yard. He wasn't able to release leads for whatever reason. He ended up in hospital badly injured.
Any time I see people out exercising more than one dog I'm vary wary and try to give them a wide berth. If most owners cannot control their one dog, several dogs is a no-no.

"Rat on a rope" - classic

 

[ottoshape]

I am in the UK - where pepper spray is illegal.

Not sure why there are so many posts of dogs, this is not a post your dog forum!
<start sarcasm>I know I will post a photo of my granny!</sarcasm>

BACK TO MY question: (please)
"any success with dog scarers like an Ultrasonic Dog Deterrent Device. Do they work?"

Dazer II works sometimes...

 

[fimbles]

I find the best method is to call the dog nicely and try to get it to follow you for as long as possible.

Most people tend to have them on a leash next time.

 

[dave_uk]

I find the best method is to call the dog nicely and try to get it to follow you for as long as possible.

Most people tend to have them on a leash next time.

nice idea

 

[ottoshape]

Talked with law enforcement yesterday and they confirmed if bitten, we can use any means necessary to detain the canine so that it can be tested for rabies. YMMV, as always, check your local laws. Sure hope I never get bit...

 

[Stihldog]

Talked with law enforcement yesterday and they confirmed if bitten, we can use any means necessary to detain the canine so that it can be tested for rabies. YMMV, as always, check your local laws. Sure hope I never get bit...

What if you were to bite a dog …would the same laws apply?

 

[steve_sordy]

What if you were to bite a dog …would the same laws apply?

"Dog bites man" is not news, not even for your local rag.
"Man bites dog" however, is the headline of your local newspaper.

 

[ottoshape]

What if you were to bite a dog …would the same laws apply?

Nope. My rabies shots are current and I carry documentation with me to prove it. Just out of curiousity, shrooms or weed?

 

[ottoshape]

I can’t agree with you about all dogs should be on a lead.

My suggestion would be to pick your spots. Out in the back-back or on a side trail or less traveled track? Go for it! FREE!!! On the main drag into and out of the park? Leash is probably a good idea.

With that said, one of the parks I ride is mandatory leash. The only places I'm hoping that rule gets followed is what I suggest above.

Quick ?... Is it ok to ignore park rules because a particular dog/owner combo got an A+ at puppy school? (FWIW, my answer would be yes, but the dog would have to have a 1400 or higher on their SAT(sit) score...)

 

[Deleted member 9676]

Maybe we should attack the dogs?

 

[Arminius]

From a similar discussion in a german forum, the AirZound was recommended - if still of interest: