commencal 2021

[robat]

I put OneUp 210mm - fits perfect, I'm probably same inseam as you.

I just noticed that Fox 38 does not extend fully, even when unweighted - I can pull on lowers and extend it by about extra 10mm. Do you notice the same?, or it's just my fork...

Obvious question but have you tried pulling on the fork until it fully extends and pushing the buttons on the lowers?

If it doesn't work, I'd guess, that your air chambers are not equalizing properly...
You could try apply max. air pressure and cycle trough, maybe it will open the port.

 

[noblige]

Obvious question but have you tried pulling on the fork until it fully extends and pushing the buttons on the lowers?

If it doesn't work, I'd guess, that your air chambers are not equalizing properly...
You could try apply max. air pressure and cycle trough, maybe it will open the port.

Holy sh*t! The buttons did it, I completely forgot that they added them (I have old 36 on other bike) - not sure how it is related (vacuum sucking it down?). Too bad I already ordered like $100 worth of Fox tools for servicing air spring
Thanks @robat !

 

[noblige]

Your assumption is correct for normal bikes, but the freewheel of the motor let the crankarms spin backwards without any chain(-ring) rotation. So your feet apply force to the chainring in only one direction, movement in the other direction is (mainly) caused by chain vibration.

I see... I just took the chain off the ring, and it does not rattle when you bounce the bike. There's still clunk when you really smack it.
How do you guys lube the chain then, as spinning cranks backward does not move the chain?

 

[robat]

You're welcome ?
Yeah lubing the chain is tricky at first. There are some devices you can stick between crankarm and chain, so if you spin the crankarms backwards, they also turn the chainring.
Far easier: Shift in your lowest gear (largest cog) and apply the lube while you slowly move the bike backwards (or move it back and forth, so you don't have to walk).

 

[robat]

Holy sh*t! The buttons did it, I completely forgot that they added them (I have old 36 on other bike) - not sure how it is related (vacuum sucking it down?). Too bad I already ordered like $100 worth of Fox tools for servicing air spring
Thanks @robat !

Yeah, it's vacuum in the lowers ?

 

[shenchman]

Your welcome ?
Yeah lubing the chain is tricky at first. There are some devices you can stick between crankarm and chain, so if you spin the crankarms backwards, they also turn the chainring.
Far easier: Shift in your lowest gear (largest cog) and apply the lube while you slowly move the bike backwards (or move it back and forth, so you don't have to walk).

$0 chain jammer: 5mm allen key cut to catch the chainring when it's placed in the crankarm fastening bolt head. just don't forget to take it out!

 

[noblige]

$0 chain jammer: 5mm allen key cut to catch the chainring when it's placed in the crankarm fastening bolt head. just don't forget to take it out!

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Love it. Making one now. Does it clear chain guide?

 

[shenchman]

Love it. Making one now. Does it clear chain guide?

if you cut it short enough.
it gets a bit tight to pull out since it's wedged against the chainring, I usually have to use pliers. wrapping it in red tape isn't a bad idea to encourage removal before riding.

 

[jbrown15]

I put OneUp 210mm - fits perfect, I'm probably same inseam as you.

I just noticed that Fox 38 does not extend fully, even when unweighted - I can pull on lowers and extend it by about extra 10mm. Do you notice the same?, or it's just my fork...

You can also change out the air shaft so that the extra 10mm is actually useable suspension.....lol

 

[rb.]

I see... I just took the chain off the ring, and it does not rattle when you bounce the bike. There's still clunk when you really smack it.
How do you guys lube the chain then, as spinning cranks backward does not move the chain?

On my other bike I have a scorpion bike stand that I can easily toss the bike on to lube the chain. But this one the cranks have that end cap on them so it won’t work.

Will try the allen key trick if I have a spare one to cut.

Here is a good option, but won’t work on our stock chainrings.

 

[Darkyhs]

My bike is stuck in France with the following info on FedEx

Arrivé à l'agence de IBA le 17/11/2020 à 20:35

Does anyone have an idea what this is? I will be calling Commencal as well a bit later

 

[robat]

My bike is stuck in France with the following info on FedEx

Arrivé à l'agence de IBA le 17/11/2020 à 20:35

Does anyone have an idea what this is? I will be calling Commencal as well a bit later

It's a FedEx business partner. I'd guess your bike is in queue to get transported overseas. Don't harass the poor people at commencal, they can't do anything right now anyway.
Just be patient ?

 

[Mcharza]

My bike is stuck in France with the following info on FedEx

​ Arrivé à l'agence de IBA le 17/11/2020 à 20:35

Does anyone have an idea what this is? I will be calling Commencal as well a bit later

Yes, it's France...c'est la vie

 

[JW9]

I've seen Sam Pilgrim is promoting this tool for the chain ring.

Amazon.de

 

[R120]

I've seen Sam Pilgrim is promoting this tool for the chain ring.

Amazon.de

I have one of these, and its ok, also gets chewed up a bit, and a stick of the same shape could also do the job!

 

[noblige]

$0 chain jammer: 5mm allen key cut to catch the chainring when it's placed in the crankarm fastening bolt head. just don't forget to take it out!

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Works perfectly! Here're dimensions if anyone wants to make one:

 

[shenchman]

Works perfectly! Here're dimensions if anyone wants to make one:

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nice! wrap the chainring end in electrical tape if you're concerned about scratching black paint!

 

[melmark]

myperfectcolor.com I got the color info from Commencal, they said this would be the closest match. Commencal does not sell the paint.

Hedrix Fast Dry Acrylic Enamel Spray Paint
Match of Pantone PMS 2237 C *
Quality: Premium
Sheen: Gloss
Size: 11oz Spray

FYI this was bad info. Color is not even close, now that Fedex got their head out their butt and finally delivered the bike (!) I can compare. The hunt continues...

 

[noblige]

Can somebody with Signature please check: did XT brakes come with metal or resin pads? I’m not at home and need to buy a spare set. Thanks!

 

[melmark]

Can somebody with Signature please check: did XT brakes come with metal or resin pads? I’m not at home and need to buy a spare set. Thanks!

Not sure how to tell? Looks like resin to me

 

[shenchman]

resin

 

[melmark]

size L signature, Halloween is over so I peeled off the orange fox float x2 & fox 38 decals which imo looks way better.

I have a 34" inseam & ~80mm of seatpost base showing, I think I'll want a longer dropper than the 175mm oem as I'm still teetering a bit on full down mode, haven't trail tested yet. fox has a 200mm transfer dropper now which has a 320mm max insertion vs frame size L max of 280mm, so you'd have 40mm of base showing which would work for me. oneup or PNW might be even better ie could get them even lower without hitting max insertion limit, I haven't researched yet.

I recommend a few crash/brush tragedy mods, especially ziptie the rear brake disc magnet sensor wire to left chainstay to reduce the chance it gets snagged on a branch or such.

similar for the exposed wire between the display & downtube entry point, trying to minimize the chance it gets snagged & torn.

I usually slit/wrap/ziptie a piece of vinyl tubing around the short section of rear derailleur cable housing too which often gets abused.

Sacha




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What is the wrap you are using?

 

[shenchman]

What is the wrap you are using?

AMS Honeycomb Frame Guard Total. CLEAR

CLEAR, Total size version of the famous AMS Honeycomb Frame Guards designed to totally cover your main triangle, stays, fork and extra parts. Get rid of chips and scratches and keep a higher reselling value of your bike.

www.allmountainstyle.com

I custom sliced one of the large long pieces probably designed for the top of the downtube in half to protect the edge of the frame where it meets the battery. top of the downtube isn't really vulnerable, sides are.

in other news I removed the single volume spacer from the float x2 shock which is super easy to do, much more plush now.

 

[jbrown15]

AMS Honeycomb Frame Guard Total. CLEAR

CLEAR, Total size version of the famous AMS Honeycomb Frame Guards designed to totally cover your main triangle, stays, fork and extra parts. Get rid of chips and scratches and keep a higher reselling value of your bike.

www.allmountainstyle.com

I custom sliced one of the large long pieces probably designed for the top of the downtube in half to protect the edge of the frame where it meets the battery. top of the downtube isn't really vulnerable, sides are.

in other news I removed the single volume spacer from the float x2 shock which is super easy to do, much more plush now.

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Does Commencal have known issues with paint quality?

 

[robat]

in other news I removed the single volume spacer from the float x2 shock which is super easy to do, much more plush now.

What do you mean by "plush"?
Since, the only thing that should be more plush by removing vol. spacer is bottom out resistance... ?

 

[melmark]

AMS Honeycomb Frame Guard Total. CLEAR

CLEAR, Total size version of the famous AMS Honeycomb Frame Guards designed to totally cover your main triangle, stays, fork and extra parts. Get rid of chips and scratches and keep a higher reselling value of your bike.

www.allmountainstyle.com

I custom sliced one of the large long pieces probably designed for the top of the downtube in half to protect the edge of the frame where it meets the battery. top of the downtube isn't really vulnerable, sides are.

in other news I removed the single volume spacer from the float x2 shock which is super easy to do, much more plush now.

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You ruined it, its all dirty now! ?

 

[JW9]

My bike arrived! Pics to follow ?

 

[shenchman]

What do you mean by "plush"?
Since, the only thing that should be more plush by removing vol. spacer is bottom out resistance... ?

volume spacers affect a significant portion of the stroke, not just ultimate bottom out resistance. air is a non-linear progressive spring to begin with per complicated fluid dynamics/physics.
my definition of plush is a feeling of linearity while using nearly the whole range of travel & not just on big drops, big drops I'd rather use HSC to resist vs a progressive spring, which I find makes the bike feel like it has & is using less travel.
just personal preference & very specific to a given bike's squat/compression curve/geometry

 

[ShaneBean]

Bike is in. Stem was smashed by something in shipping small paint missing, top right bar stem screw is bent. Also they sent me a euro plug for the charger. Bike came with no charge and wrong plug. Ordered sept4th. This is a XL meta power 29 essential. Ride notes to follow, after I goto bestbuy buy a plug converter and get a charge.

 

[melmark]

FedEx had a nice surprise for me today

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What brand of bike stand is that?