Bosch Powertube connector configurations, what the hell?

[Suissepaddy]

My Moustache hardtail (bought in February) comes packaged with a 500 Wh Bosch Powertube. The dealer at the time said the battery is configured with spacers, so I could easily upgrade to a 625 Wh. So this week I decided to bite the bullet and order a 625 tube, obviously taking careful note of the horizontal vs vertical configuration. The tube arrived today, so I gleefully went to install on my bike, only to realise it doesn't fit. When I look at the business end, the internal connector is configured differently as you see in the image; my 500 is on the bottom, the new 625 on top. What gives with the difference? I just spent CHF 633 on the new tube, but there is a return option (I hope). What do I need to look out for to order the correct battery for my bike? It has the Bosch Smart system, does that make a difference?

 

[Paulquattro]

Hi
I know the smart system and non smart system have different plugs and your picture is non smart on top and smart system below this is your issue

 

[Suissepaddy]

Hi
I know the smart system and non smart system have different plugs i guess this is your issue

OK, good to know, but why? It's certainly not obvious when you go to order a new battery.

 

[Paulquattro]

OK, good to know, but why? It's certainly not obvious when you go to order a new battery.

There's different electronics in the two system its a sure fire way of stopping cross compatibility issues

 

[Suissepaddy]

There's different electronics in the two system its a sure fire way of stopping cross compatibility issues

OK, so I've done a bit of further investigation, the battery I ordered was the PowerTube 625 BBP291, whereas the Smart equivalent would be BBP3761. Is that right and what I should be looking out for when I order?

 

[Ndanger]

I do not know about the batteries but... On the Bike Discount page that I looked up the part number BBP3761 it appears to be the same incorrect battery that you have already . From what I can see the incorrect one is the Vertical Non Smart

 

[Ndanger]

The picture that you posted showing your battery on the bottom was hard to see so I lightened up the resolution and it does not look like the one pictured for the part number you are considering.

 

[Suissepaddy]

I do not know about the batteries but... On the Bike Discount page that I looked up the part number BBP3761 it appears to be the same incorrect battery that you have already . From what I can see the incorrect one is the Vertical Non Smart



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That's interesting because I looked up BBP3761 and this came up: Bosch PowerTube 625 Wh vertical BBP3761 smart, 736.00 CHF. This does appear to have the the correct pin configuration.
Yet another search results in this: PowerTube 625 Akku (BBP3761) VERTIKAL - Das smarte System, which doesn't have the Smart configuration. I'm very confused.

 

[Ndanger]

I am interested in learning more about the Bosch batteries as I will be needing to buy one soon. I will be doing my riding in central Europe and live in Hawaii so I need to find a way to transport the bike back and forth. It will require buying another batter (800 power tube) for a Cube One77. I am assuming a 2025 800 Wh battery will be a Bosch product and not a Cube.

 

[Suissepaddy]

Update: so the correct battery just arrived, part No. BBP3761, ordered from CH Bobleisure

 

[Ndanger]

That is good to know that Bobs Leisure is on top of the batteries. I saw them as an option to order a Bosch battery and it is good to hear that they have correct batteries.