bob64
Member
Hi. I am looking to buy a set of bar ends to give me more hand positions when riding. A lot of them look really small. I am not worried about weight, just comfort. Any ideas? What do you use. Thanks.
Bar Ends
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I’m not a fan of “bull-horns” or drop bars but I can see the advantage sometimes. The type of terrain I ride in says NO!
I’ve tried the winged type grip but those caused hand cramps …even though they felt good.
I now use the largest diameter grip I can find (OURY). I believe they are made for a motorcycle manufacturer. A few of us use them.
I’ve tried the winged type grip but those caused hand cramps …even though they felt good.
I now use the largest diameter grip I can find (OURY). I believe they are made for a motorcycle manufacturer. A few of us use them.
@bob64 I have been using Ergon Grips, since forever. I bought them becasue I was having all sorts of hand numbness, pins & needles etc. But no more! If I am going for a test ride, I take the grips with me. But they are not for everyone.
Initially I used the bar end ones for the same reasons that you describe (varied hand positions). But in the end I had to remove them because they kept snagging on shrubbery and tipping me off, often at speed.
I was once overtaken by a rider, who made contact with me. It was slight, but enough for me to tilt slightly away from him, the bar end grabbed a bush and I got tipped into him and we both ended up tumbling down the hill! He was on a Strava mission and he wasn't best pleased, but as I told him at the time, it was his bloody fault!
But if snagging is not a problem for you then I can 100% recommend Ergon grips. They are top quality, last for ages and if you have hand problems they are very adjustable to vary the angle of the flattish grip. If you buy, make sure that you select the large size (small is very small), and also avoid the short ones that are designed for a twist shifter. The alloy end also protects the handlebar ends when the bike pivots down off the tow bar rack onto the road! (No need to ask me how I know that!)
The GP1 grips are what I use now, see below: Note the length sticking out to the left past the diamond pattern. The angle of the flat bit is adjustable. They need to be flatter in use than you might think to start with. I set them up with just enough clamp not to slide about, then ride on the street and twist until I get the angle right for each hand. Then tighten up. However you do it, don't expect both to be the same.
The ERgon GP3 are their "Comfort grips" The angle of the bar end is also adjustable. They have a longer bar end option as well.
Initially I used the bar end ones for the same reasons that you describe (varied hand positions). But in the end I had to remove them because they kept snagging on shrubbery and tipping me off, often at speed.
I was once overtaken by a rider, who made contact with me. It was slight, but enough for me to tilt slightly away from him, the bar end grabbed a bush and I got tipped into him and we both ended up tumbling down the hill! He was on a Strava mission and he wasn't best pleased, but as I told him at the time, it was his bloody fault!But if snagging is not a problem for you then I can 100% recommend Ergon grips. They are top quality, last for ages and if you have hand problems they are very adjustable to vary the angle of the flattish grip. If you buy, make sure that you select the large size (small is very small), and also avoid the short ones that are designed for a twist shifter. The alloy end also protects the handlebar ends when the bike pivots down off the tow bar rack onto the road! (No need to ask me how I know that!)
The GP1 grips are what I use now, see below: Note the length sticking out to the left past the diamond pattern. The angle of the flat bit is adjustable. They need to be flatter in use than you might think to start with. I set them up with just enough clamp not to slide about, then ride on the street and twist until I get the angle right for each hand. Then tighten up. However you do it, don't expect both to be the same.
The ERgon GP3 are their "Comfort grips" The angle of the bar end is also adjustable. They have a longer bar end option as well.
Don't find I need them on the emtb but on my 'normal' bike which I use for longer all day/multi day rides I've got the sq lab inner bar ends. These sit inside the grip rather than at the end. The big benefit is that you get a second hand position and can still use the brakes whilst using them. They're only small but I find provide a really comfy second hand position when riding milder terrain. Bought them just to try something but wouldn't be without them now for that type of riding. If you're using lock on grips they replace the lock and sit right up against the grip so better to use with grips that are flangeless.
António13_PT
New Member
Ergon GS2-L
Silicone grips are the most comfortable for rides lasting up to 3 to 4 hours.
For multi-day trips or rides lasting 6 hours or more, I consider Ergon's GS2-L to be better.
You have to spend some time getting them into the right position; a difference of 2 mm is enough to make them less comfortable.
I've been using them for several years and have never fallen because of them.
Modern handlebars, with their enormous widths, are worse in this respect, at first, you hit a lot of branches, but then you get used to it and it almost stops happening.
Silicone grips are the most comfortable for rides lasting up to 3 to 4 hours.
For multi-day trips or rides lasting 6 hours or more, I consider Ergon's GS2-L to be better.
You have to spend some time getting them into the right position; a difference of 2 mm is enough to make them less comfortable.
I've been using them for several years and have never fallen because of them.
Modern handlebars, with their enormous widths, are worse in this respect, at first, you hit a lot of branches, but then you get used to it and it almost stops happening.
Funnily enough I use the smallest diameter grip which is ODI Sensus Lite. Love them, weird or what?
Yeah, I used Oury grips back in the 80's on my motorcycles. I even have a pair of Oury MTB grips in my toolbox that someone gave me. I'm a fan of Revgrips for the same reason you like the Ourys: the larger diameter.
I still have two pair of those Ergon winged grips. I really like them. But over time I was developing constant hand cramps. Not the numbness or tingling feeling that you experienced.@bob64 I have been using Ergon Grips, since forever. I bought them becasue I was having all sorts of hand numbness, pins & needles etc. But no more! If I am going for a test ride, I take the grips with me. But they are not for everyone.
Initially I used the bar end ones for the same reasons that you describe (varied hand positions). But in the end I had to remove them because they kept snagging on shrubbery and tipping me off, often at speed.
But if snagging is not a problem for you then I can 100% recommend Ergon grips. They are top quality, last for ages and if you have hand problems they are very adjustable to vary the angle of the flattish grip. If you buy, make sure that you select the large size (small is very small), and also avoid the short ones that are designed for a twist shifter. The alloy end also protects the handlebar ends when the bike pivots down off the tow bar rack onto the road! (No need to ask me how I know that!)
The GP1 grips are what I use now, see below: Note the length sticking out to the left past the diamond pattern. The angle of the flat bit is adjustable. They need to be flatter in use than you might think to start with. I set them up with just enough clamp not to slide about, then ride on the street and twist until I get the angle right for each hand. Then tighten up. However you do it, don't expect both to be the same.
View attachment 178797
The ERgon GP3 are their "Comfort grips" The angle of the bar end is also adjustable. They have a longer bar end option as well.
View attachment 178795
I discovered that shape of the grip was likely pressing on a nerve in the palm, near the pinkie finger, and causing severe pain and cramping. Sometimes in both hands.
. A smaller diameter regular grip was even worse …for different reasons.My neighbour lent me his Oury grips to try. The larger diameter OURY grip was the answer. No more problems …installed on both EMTBs now …my career as a Hand Model can resume.
Oury Grip.
Free picture of my hand. FYI
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Mary bars are supposed to be the most comfortable for wrists . Need to add end bars for another position though.
We are all different, thankfully there are many grip and bar options. Which brings me to another point, the sweep angle on bars. If you hold some spare grips in your hands and assume the riding position, get someone to mark on paper underneath your hands to get the angle that the hands/grips are at. That is your comfortable sweep angle. Get too far away from that and your hands are being forced inot an uncomfortable angle that will put pressure on either the outside of your hands (little finger numbness for ex.) or the inside (problems with thumb and forefinger).I still have two pair of those Ergon winged grips. I really like them. But over time I was developing constant hand cramps. Not the numbness or tingling feeling that you experienced.
I discovered that shape of the grip was likely pressing on a nerve in the palm, near the pinkie finger, and causing severe pain and cramping. Sometimes in both hands.
My neighbour lent me his Oury grips to try. The larger diameter OURY grip was the answer. No more problems …installed on both EMTBs now …my career as a Hand Model can resume.
Oury Grip.
View attachment 178808
Free picture of my hand. FYI
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There is sure to be a YouTube video on it.
2cool2fool
Active member
Same here. I've been using these for years (without the bull horns) - and they totally solve the hand numbness problem.@bob64 I have been using Ergon Grips, since forever. I bought them becasue I was having all sorts of hand numbness, pins & needles etc. But no more! If I am going for a test ride, I take the grips with me. But they are not for everyone.
Initially I used the bar end ones for the same reasons that you describe (varied hand positions). But in the end I had to remove them because they kept snagging on shrubbery and tipping me off, often at speed.
But if snagging is not a problem for you then I can 100% recommend Ergon grips. They are top quality, last for ages and if you have hand problems they are very adjustable to vary the angle of the flattish grip. If you buy, make sure that you select the large size (small is very small), and also avoid the short ones that are designed for a twist shifter. The alloy end also protects the handlebar ends when the bike pivots down off the tow bar rack onto the road! (No need to ask me how I know that!)
The GP1 grips are what I use now, see below: Note the length sticking out to the left past the diamond pattern. The angle of the flat bit is adjustable. They need to be flatter in use than you might think to start with. I set them up with just enough clamp not to slide about, then ride on the street and twist until I get the angle right for each hand. Then tighten up. However you do it, don't expect both to be the same.
View attachment 178797
The ERgon GP3 are their "Comfort grips" The angle of the bar end is also adjustable. They have a longer bar end option as well.
View attachment 178795
mike_kelly
E*POWAH Elite
Ergon comes in multiple "sizes"/diameters. There are also SQLabs grips which offer a different solution.
Gingershrek
New Member
Bro, I take it you haven’t tried diety megattack grips? I was oury on everything until I bought my first pair, grippier than oury, larger diameter, and just the right amount of cushion. I run them on everything!I still have two pair of those Ergon winged grips. I really like them. But over time I was developing constant hand cramps. Not the numbness or tingling feeling that you experienced.
I discovered that shape of the grip was likely pressing on a nerve in the palm, near the pinkie finger, and causing severe pain and cramping. Sometimes in both hands.
My neighbour lent me his Oury grips to try. The larger diameter OURY grip was the answer. No more problems …installed on both EMTBs now …my career as a Hand Model can resume.
Oury Grip.
View attachment 178808
Free picture of my hand. FYI
View attachment 178809
I haven’t explored the Diety lineup for grips, other than the one pair that lives in the spare part’s drawer. I didn’t know that they make a larger diameter. Might be worth a look.…after I trash the Oury’s.
Gingershrek
New Member
I think you’ll like them. I believe they’re at 36mm. Suuuuuper comfortable as well.
Might look into those.
.The problem with buying grips at A local Bike Shop was experiencing real-world riding. Plus they rarely kept a large diameter in stock. (I probably looked kinda funny wandering around the bike shop, holding a pair of grips in front of me while making weird noises and my eyes closed
).I don’t think I want a foam grip. Larger yes. I use to install the foam drop-bar-grips (4) on the handles of my chainsaw(s). Those work great and helped prevent white-finger by reducing some motor vibration. When they wore out …just cut them off and install new ones. A small diameter bar was very uncomfortable for me.
Gila Man
Active member
I hadn't heard of these until your post. I've got x-large (long fingers) hands so the largest grip possible is what I'm always looking for. Thanks for the tip!
Hands like shovels we say. You would have been good at picking tatties in the 60s.
Gila Man
Active member
I'm learning all sorts of new slang and UK geography from you guys! I had to google "tatties", I wasn't sure if you had swapped an "a" for an "i"
. I wonder if this is the reason my father had me harvest the root vegetables in our garden, nah, it wouldn't have matter what size my hands were, I was just free labor.
That was my first thought also …but you were brave enough to say something. I’m still learning that UK slang.… I wasn't sure if you had swapped an "a" for an "i"
Children used to pick tatties for about 18 shillings a day at local farms in the 60s . Doesn't happen anymore. October school holidays are still called the tattie holidays up our way.I'm learning all sorts of new slang and UK geography from you guys! I had to google "tatties", I wasn't sure if you had swapped an "a" for an "i"
Gila Man
Active member
I thought it was what Youtubers did for products that paid them for their "honest" reviews.Hmmm? I’m gonna Google “shilling”.
I hope it’s not a small pebble.
Gila Man
Active member
I did pick strawberries for $1 per flat in the early 70's. Considering the damage to my shoes and pants from crawling around on my hands and knees each day, I probably lost money on the deal.
Half a Crown was 2/6d and 8 to a £
Two Bob (also a Florin) was 2/0d and 10 to a £
Two Bob (also a Florin) was 2/0d and 10 to a £
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