I buy all my bikes in the US and have them sent to my dad’s house there, I’m in the US for a week or so every other month usually. Then it’s either flying them back on the plane with me or using the “event shipping” loop hole through Bike Flights. You can’t fly with the battery so you either have to ship it separately or buy a new one. I bought my gen 5 Crestline frame without a battery, had planned to buy the battery in the UK but ended up selling the frame to purchase the DJI version.
Avinox M2 SL
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I buy all my bikes in the US and have them sent to my dad’s house there, I’m in the US for a week or so every other month usually. Then it’s either flying them back on the plane with me or using the “event shipping” loop hole through Bike Flights. You can’t fly with the battery so you either have to ship it separately or buy a new one. I bought my gen 5 Crestline frame without a battery, had planned to buy the battery in the UK but ended up selling the frame to purchase the DJI version.
I assume that is a compliment. Given the V1 of any new product is going to have issues that will need improvement, I understand that it is sage advice to wait for V2 of any new design.
The only issue I see needing attention is the "rattle" and how that is addressed in the new version.
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I travel internationally and find it challenging with a Emtb. I am curious if the "event shipping" is still viable. Here is what I have found:
Understanding the "Event Shipping" Loophole and Recent Changes
The term "event shipping loophole" generally refers to the opportunity to ship items for events without incurring heavy tariffs when used for gifting or promotional items. Recent legislation, particularly the closure of the de minimis exemption by the Trump administration, has significant implications on how these shipments are handled.Recent Closure of the De Minimis Exemption
As of August 29, 2025, the de minimis exemption, which allowed goods valued at $800 or less to enter the United States without tariffs, has been abolished for all countries. This measure was initially aimed at curbing the misuse of the exemption by illicit shippers, particularly those importing fentanyl and other drugs.Impacts of the Closure:
- Increased Costs: All low-cost imports are now subject to tariffs, which can range from 10% to 50% based on the product type and country of origin.
- Administration Burden: Foreign postal services must now calculate tariffs before sending packages, potentially causing delays in shipping times.
- Event Gifting: Items previously shipped duty-free for events will now incur added costs, affecting event budgets.
Effects on Events and Gifting
The ending of the de minimis exemption directly impacts how event planners manage gifting and promotional items:Aspect | Before Closure | After Closure |
| Tariff Applicability | No tariffs for items under $800 | Tariffs apply to all items below $800 |
| Shipping Speed | Typically 5-10 days | Expected delays, possibly up to 20 days |
| Cost Management | Lower costs for bulk purchasing | Increased costs due to tariffs and delays |
| Supplier Relations | Easier negotiation with suppliers | Need for close collaboration with vendors |
| Budgeting for Events | More predictable costs | Uncertainty in pricing, needing adjustments |
John_likes_bikes
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Source?
I used to take my Levo back and forth a good bit, I just bought an extra battery/charger to keep at my dad’s house. My EVOC bike bag is beat to poop from all the flying it’s done.
The Bike Flights loop hole still works for what I use it for. I just did it a few months ago with a new frame. None of the tariff nonsense applies as you’re shipping it for an “event” and will be taking it back with you when you go home. You have to have a return plane ticket and include copies of it in your paperwork.
Might have to buy a junk bike to ship with you and abandon it in America and go home with the good stuff.
I did that a few times but eventually just started going to the US with the empty bag. Nobody ever checks it on either side.
Highland Wheels
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Don't be surpised that it will be for once, also gonna be new battery next year that will be backwards compatible
Back in the day, the way we got a hang glider into Brazil was to bring a glider to a competition event. Then take an old outdated and no longer usable one, back with us. The term that the Brazilians use for the exiting glider was a word that translated into "dead fish" .
slickrock
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I simply can't image the M2 FP will be anything other than a incremental refinement release, which is exactly what the market is asking for. The Avinox is already so much of a disrupter entry that it doesn't need to break the mold further. The smaller bike companies that have bought into the platform, already struggling in today's brutal bike industry, would be destroyed by a motor/battery mount change this soon in the game. Avinox is really a new platform, and platforms need to stay stable to be built on.
Now regarding an SL, well that would be considered a new product attacking a different bike category, affording an even smaller form factor /battery, so the above would most likely not apply. But then again, maybe Avinox creates an adapter to slap an SL into M1 frame?
That said, I still want Avinox to push the product mold, but in this case with crafting an awesome MGU.
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Don’t disagree with what you’ve written, but my comment was in response to those who were hoping that the M2 Motor (whatever it is!) would be freely available for retrofit to existing Avinox bikes, and my feeling is they might be disappointed, for all the reasons I wrote.
Whilst DJI have a track record of innovation and a fast cycle of model releases, it’s also true that not much is backwards compatible, so subtly different batteries or motors on drones, upgraded cameras and gimbals on same, but you can’t ever turn a DJI Mini 2 into a 4 for example.
Even if the size/mounting points/plugs are the same, it could easily be software locked to only ‘new’ bikes.
People can’t even get new batteries for the Avinox M1 easily, as far as I understand it. DJI will likely always prioritise production rather than upgrades to already released products, to keep those bike companies happy and in business.
I don’t know though, I hope that all e-bike parts/motors become more available (not just on Avinox bikes) but I’m not holding my breath. Like almost everybody else I’m just observing and second guessing.
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Highland Wheels
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There is a bigger battery due next year that will fit in the same place as the current batteries
I wouldn't be too shocked if they new motors are all backwards compatible and from what I've been told, they fit the same as the M1.
M2 is a budget oriented motor for mostly alloy bikes.
Same specs and mounting as current M1 but heavier and cheaper.
New M1, no details yet but same mount. Maybe lighter,maybe 130nm.
@Highland Wheels are you sure about the bigger battery info?
Same specs and mounting as current M1 but heavier and cheaper.
New M1, no details yet but same mount. Maybe lighter,maybe 130nm.
@Highland Wheels are you sure about the bigger battery info?
Highland Wheels
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Which is great, but whether you’ll be able to buy one and retrofit it in your existing Avinox, which is what people are hoping, remains to be seen.
Highland Wheels
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Batteries are available now, at least in Europe/UK so don't see why not
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I see the need for incremental improvement to the motor, especially in regards to its "flaw" of the rattle which gives the silent Bosch G5 an advantage. So eliminating the criticism of the "rattle" (just as Bosch did G4 to G5) and supporting the producers of bikes as they transition from other powerplants in 2026 with a consistent motor mount would logically be a priority. Not seeing a compelling market for upgrading V1 bike to a V2 powertrain though for bikes that currently enjoy a nearly ultimate motor.
John_likes_bikes
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My friends second cousin who knows a guy dating this girl whose neighbor works high up at a company thinking about bikes told me it's coming next week. 100%, no doubt.
Me neither, but seems to be what some people are hoping for.
I just don’t think they’ll do anything but prioritise production and supporting manufacturers launching new bikes and updated models, manufacturers won’t want to be competing with older models that owners upgrade with improved motors or batteries.
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Pyr0
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Is @sethimus saying that's supposed to be an M2 motor? It looks like the existing one to me.
Not a very useful post to just dump an image with no context.
[edit] It's the second image from the Unno instagram post saying they had some framesets available.
www.instagram.com
[edit2] what happened to the post by Highland Wheels ?
Not a very useful post to just dump an image with no context.
[edit] It's the second image from the Unno instagram post saying they had some framesets available.
UNNO on Instagram: "Which components would you pick to build your Mith frameset? They’re now available in very limited numbers through select dealers. #RideUNNO #MITH"
1,313 likes, 25 comments - rideunno on October 28, 2025: "Which components would you pick to build your Mith frameset? They’re now available in very limited numbers through select dealers. #RideUNNO #MITH".
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[edit2] what happened to the post by Highland Wheels ?
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slickrock
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I want that motor now. It can't come soon enough.
techm8n
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I saw the new Avinox M2 motor mounted on a bike. And the motor mounts are the same from the M1. Don't ask me which bike it's on because I'm not going to say. Also, I don't know the torque specs. Only thing I know is that the motor rattle is fixed.
If correct, worth the wait to have the updated version.
Rando_12345
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any truth to there being 2 new motors coming (heavier and lighter versions)? Any dates to look forward to?
Looking at loads of dirt cheap SL bikes, but then thinking the next gen avinox bikes are going to drop and wipe out the entire SL market!
I don’t think it will wipe out the SL market, it will more likely become part of it?
As others have said anyway, the new M2 motor is rumored to be slightly heavier than the M1, so unlikely to be part of any SL unless it gets paired with smaller and lighter batteries.