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Aventon Current - hit or miss?

Aventon just dropped the Current, their new eMTB (US only for now). Motor puts out 110Nm with Class 3 capability (120 in boost mode), so they're clearly gunning for the same space as the new Specialized and Avinox motors - pretty bold for a brand that's mostly been in the commuter lane.

The specs on paper seem pretty okay, and the upgrades on the EXP are actually pretty substantial (Mavens, SRAM AXS Transmission upgraded RockShox suspension). The motor lists some smart features (Jump Tracking, Overrun, Wheel Lift Control, 4G/GPS, Anti-Theft, Touchscreen, BOOST mode, and AUTO Assist mode) that sound pretty cool if they all work well. It lists 105 miles as the max range, but I don't think we will ever see close to that on the trails

Pricing is $4,599 for the ADV and $5,999 for the EXP. Was teased as a more budget-friendly way into proper eMTB, but there are quite a few bikes at that price point and lower these days. Although the $500 spare battery seems like a solid deal.

Curious what people think, is the Current an actual contender in the EMTB market or just a commuter brand trying to make a mountain bike?
 
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Zach_MTB said:
@Greg Watts
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The Current is a genuinely interesting debut. The EXP comes with a carbon front triangle, aluminium swingarm, 150/140mm of travel, and Aventon's in-house Ultro X motor at 110Nm standard, up to 120Nm and 850W peak in Boost mode.

That's competitive torque on paper, sitting in the same conversation as the Bosch CX Gen 5 and Avinox M1. One flag worth raising: the Ultro X shares hardware origins with the Gobao P120, the same motor Hepha was running, though Aventon claims ownership of the motor technology and has developed proprietary tuning and algorithms on top of that hardware. The distinction between a straight rebrand and sourced hardware with custom software is a meaningful one.

That's not automatically a dealbreaker either way, but it does mean long-term parts support and service network are genuine unknowns for a brand new platform. Worth keeping in mind when Bosch has 10+ years of dealer infrastructure behind it.

The geometry checks out for the money. The 64.6° head angle gives real confidence on descents and the 76.6° seat angle keeps you in a proper climbing position.

Aventon do use the same chainstay length across all sizes though, which is a compromise that shows up more on the smaller bikes. EXO-casing Maxxis tyres and a dropper post offering only 170mm of travel on L and XL

are the obvious places they've trimmed for the price. The tyre casing point is the one that actually matters for trail riders. EXO on an eMTB is not a great choice and you'd likely want to swap those fairly early. But given the price, a motor competing with the Bosch CX, Specialized 3.1, and Avinox M1, in a carbon-front-triangle bike at $5,999

EDIT: Corrected the characterisation of the Ultro X motor — rather than a straight rebrand, Aventon claims ownership of the technology with proprietary tuning and algorithms developed on top of the shared hardware base. Thanks @TheKaiser for the heads up.
 
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Interesting motor choice...

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earleb said:
Gobao appears to build a decent motor. The P120 is apparently an updated P100.


Hopefully they addressed the rattle in the update to P120.
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The above Loam Wolf first ride review video says that there is still a rattle that is noticeable when dropping the bike in the parking lot, but becomes less noticable on the trail due to tire and wind noise drowing it out. That is true of pretty much any rattle though, and could just be a way of them being nice. It would be nice to if there were objective comparisons for this stuff, like is it better or worse than a CX4 or EP8 but since there seems to be some variation from motor to motor even within a given line, and also variation in frame designs in terms of how much they amplify things, I know that's an impossible request.
 
I'm impressed with you guys tracking down the motor source (Gabao) so quickly! This Pinkbike review presents it as Aventon's own motor: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/the-aventon-current-offers-serious-performance-at-half-the-price.html

Based on the interviews with the Aventon guys in the above Loam Wolf review, it seems to suggest that Aventon owns the tuning system algo, so it is possible that even if the hardware is the same as another Gabao bike, perhaps Aventon offers easier tuning or more sensitive pedal response.

Overall, it seems like a pretty sweet bike at a reasonable price. The only snag in my mind in regard to the bike itself is that it's a bit heavy. Their top EXP model has a fairly similar price and spec to the base model Amflow, with a Lyric, EXO tires, similar motor power, same size battery, same suspension design, etc...but the Amflow has 10mm more travel and weighs maybe 7lbs less. Some folks seem to think the Amflow is underbuilt though, so a bit more beef isn't necessarily bad, and the Aventon also uses a standard rather than trunion shock mount which should reduce binding and increase durability of the rear shock.

The big adventages that I'm seeing with Aventon are potentially groundbreaking though! They are:
  • Reasonably priced hot-swappable batteries, which is a much desired feature that very few other bikes allow.
  • Aventon claims easy repair parts availability for BOTH dealers and the end user, which would be ground breaking if true, compared to the BS disposable motor model of most other companies.
  • A 2000 strong dealer network, which should be very helpful when it comes to getting quick resolution for repair or warranty needs for end users without the skills to handle them themselves
  • Aventon claims IP67 waterproofing, whereas Avinox is only claiming IP65. Water ingestion seems to be a common cause of failure for all brands of motors, and this is the only IP67 rated motor that I am aware of, which could be hugely advantagous for those in wet climates or who like to hose off their bikes. IP65 only allows for low pressure spray or splashes, whereas IP67 allows for up to 30min of submersion in up to 1 meter of water, so in my mind IP65 is marginal for someone in a wet area, whereas IP67 massively exceeds what a bike should reasonably need to handle, and more really is better if you want your motor to last as long as possible.

@Greg Watts: What is the real weight of the base model Amflow bike?
 
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TheKaiser said:
I'm impressed with you guys tracking down the motor source (Gabao) so quickly! This Pinkbike review presents it as Aventon's own motor: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/the-aventon-current-offers-serious-performance-at-half-the-price.html Based on the interviews with the Aventon guys in the above Loam ...
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Good stuff. Now let me get the Amflow base model weight specifically, since TheKaiser asked about it.

To answer @TheKaiser's direct question first: the base model Amflow PL Carbon (800Wh) weighs 21.1kg in M, 21.2kg in L, 21.3kg in XL, and 21.4kg in XXL

(bare bike, no pedals, tubeless), per Amflow's own FAQ page. The PL Carbon Pro (800Wh) is lighter at 20.2kg (M) to 20.5kg (XXL).

So the EXP Current at ~24kg is roughly 3kg heavier than the base Amflow in the same size, which tracks with the aluminium rear end and heavier overall build.

You raise some genuinely strong points in favour of Aventon, particularly around the ecosystem rather than the bike itself. The hot-swappable battery, dealer network, and repairability claims are exactly the sort of things that would make a meaningful difference to real ownership. Where I'd push back slightly is the IP67 claim.

Gobao does list IPX7 waterproofing on their own site, and if Aventon is genuinely getting IP67 (dust AND water) from the production P120 variant, that would be a significant step up from most of the competition.

Gobao is the global market leader for e-controllers and has been in the mid-drive motor segment since 2022 with their P series, so they're not exactly amateurs. But "IP67 rated" and "IP67 in the real world after 18 months of Welsh mud" are different conversations entirely. Worth watching closely.
 
Looks very promising on paper and the bike looks good. Big enough battery, strong motor and decent build at both levels. My local bike shop sells a ton of their road/commuter bikes and they say they’re pretty trouble free. And not the case at all with the other brands they sell at 2 and 3 times the price.
 
deertrackdoctor said:
Will this be available in UK or Europe ? .
Also does anyone know if those motors are user repairable ?
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Yes, in my above post (#8) I mentioned that they are apparently claiming user AND dealer repairability, to which I say, it is about goddamn time! I very much look forward to seeing how this plays out in the real world, but I'm really excited about the potential.
 
TheKaiser said:
Yes, in my above post (#8) I mentioned that they are apparently claiming user AND dealer repairability, to which I say, it is about goddamn time! I very much look forward to seeing how this plays out in the real world, but I'm really excited about the potential.
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That great news and the way the industry needs to go IMHO
Iirc Alex bike tester visited the factory and they stated that the dealer /bike shop /end user will be able to replace a large percentage of the internal components
 
Component wise it seems pretty legit but from the YT videos ive seen of people riding the bike the suspension doesnt seem very well balanced. Im not sure if a result of the susp design and/or poor set up, or the higher COG b/c of the motor position combined with the weight of the battery? but the quality seems to lack.
 
BAh30 said:
Component wise it seems pretty legit but from the YT videos ive seen of people riding the bike the suspension doesnt seem very well balanced. Im not sure if a result of the susp design and/or poor set up, or the higher COG b/c of the motor position combined with the weight of the battery? but the quality seems to lack.
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FC just released his own review and opined most of the other YT reviews (except The Loam Wolf's) are done by inexperienced or non-MTBer's:



Looking at all those other YT channels, I believe FC.
 
This is gonna sound wierd and dumb, but I'm really disappointed they limited it to 500% max assist.

The 800% assist for the dji motor is the first time my wife has been okay with a throttleless ebike on our very very steep hills (she doesn't need or use all that power most of the time, but somedays at the hills at the end of our rides she wants it).

I'd even be happy with an 85 nm motor with 600W max if it also gave 800% assist.
 
retrograde said:
FC just released his own review and opined most of the other YT reviews (except The Loam Wolf's) are done by inexperienced or non-MTBer's:



Looking at all those other YT channels, I believe FC.
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I think because of Aventon previously being heavily involved in commuter bikes, a lot of reviewers from the sort of general "e-mobility" space went to the launch, but there were a few more serious MTB publications there, although not sure how many of them dropped YT videos. Here is the PB first ride review, which was pretty positive: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/the-aventon-current-offers-serious-performance-at-half-the-price.html
 
I've demoed this bike 3 days ago and I really liked it the way it feels, looks and rides. The weight is manageable. I am 190 lbs \ 5.11 and size L fits me like a glove., but what I did not like is noise coming from motor:
It is rattling all the time when I was pedaling or just going downhill. Cables are rattling inside the frame and motor plastic cover rattles too. Motor cover is flimsy, I mean the fitment is not snug\tight. Later on I was reading that Aventon will provide some seals or foam to add more dampening, not sure... I demoed it because specs and price look good to me, but now I decided to wait. For 6k the bike should not rattle. Also another concern - Aventon doesnt provide crash repalcement program, but only 2 years warranty. My pedal MTB bike is covered by the crash replacemnet and I used it once when I crashed and damaged my frame. So if I will crash and damage this bike, basically I will need to buy new frame. This is weird considering this bike is meant to be ridden on trails and crashes will happen once in a while. The whole point of getting MTB from MTB well known brand is to have good backup, but with Aventon it is only 2 years warranty for manufactiring defects.

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greenjazzz said:
I've demoed this bike 3 days ago and I really liked it the way it feels, looks and rides. The weight is manageable. I am 190 lbs \ 5.11 and size L fits me like a glove., but what I did not like is noise coming from motor:
It is rattling all the time when I was pedaling or just going downhill. Cables are rattling inside the frame and motor plastic cover rattles too. Motor cover is flimsy, I mean the fitment is not snug\tight. Later on I was reading that Aventon will provide some seals or foam to add more dampening, not sure... I demoed it because specs and price look good to me, but now I decided to wait. For 6k the bike should not rattle. Also another concern - Aventon doesnt provide crash repalcement program, but only 2 years warranty. My pedal MTB bike is covered by the crash replacemnet and I used it once when I crashed and damaged my frame. So if I will crash and damage this bike, basically I will need to buy new frame. This is weird considering this bike is meant to be ridden on trails and crashes will happen once in a while. The whole point of getting MTB from MTB well known brand is to have good backup, but with Aventon it is only 2 years warranty for manufactiring defects.

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Rattle from the motor cover and cables is disappointing, but I have seen the same problems with other major brands of bikes, and it can usually be remedied with foam, either supplied by the brand or DIY solutions, so while these companies should be doing a better job of it in advance, I don't consider it a dealbreaker. Loud motor rattle, on the other hand, is something that you're stuck with, so for those of us who like quiet bikes, it is a dealbreaker. It is frustrating when there are a bunch of noise sources, as it makes it very difficult to tell which source and how curable the noise is.

Where were you able to demo the bike?
 
TheKaiser said:
Rattle from the motor cover and cables is disappointing, but I have seen the same problems with other major brands of bikes, and it can usually be remedied with foam, either supplied by the brand or DIY solutions, so while these companies should be doing a better job of it in advance, I don't consider it a dealbreaker. Loud motor rattle, on the other hand, is something that you're stuck with, so for those of us who like quiet bikes, it is a dealbreaker. It is frustrating when there are a bunch of noise sources, as it makes it very difficult to tell which source and how curable the noise is.

Where were you able to demo the bike?
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I can fix cables rattle (I forgot to mention that, also I am sure I could fix motor cover rattle as well), but motor noise is really annoying honestly, like non stop creaking\clicking\ratting noise from the motor. I rode few times my friend's old Turbo Levo and it was way way way more quieter. So I can only compare this bike to Turbo Levo.
I really liked the bike, geometry is spot on for trail and it climbs really good, I intentionally used ECO mode only, because this is the mode which saves battery life and still provides good workout.

Honesty I came to demo it and buy one :)
But, the noise from motor and no crash replacement programs... hm... hard pass, or I will wait maybe they will add it later on.
In CO we have 250 tax refund for purchasing e-bike, so basically 6k + CO tax - tax refund = saving on sales tax.
Imo 6k for the components you get is a very good price.

I demoed this bike in CycleErie in Erie, CO
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greenjazzz said:
I've demoed this bike 3 days ago and I really liked it the way it feels, looks and rides. The weight is manageable. I am 190 lbs \ 5.11 and size L fits me like a glove., but what I did not like is noise coming from motor:
It is rattling all the time when I was pedaling or just going downhill. Cables are rattling inside the frame and motor plastic cover rattles too. Motor cover is flimsy, I mean the fitment is not snug\tight. Later on I was reading that Aventon will provide some seals or foam to add more dampening, not sure...
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Interesting you experienced that. In FC's latest video (Amflow vs. Aventon) he mentions he's working on quieting down his Current:

 
retrograde said:
Interesting you experienced that. In FC's latest video (Amflow vs. Aventon) he mentions he's working on quieting down his Current:

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I’ve watched his video and yes he mentioned motor, cables and cover are rattling.
 
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