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You have to look under the complete bike page. I don't see it listed under the frame only section. https://vmgbikes.com/typhon-enduro/

I wouldn't categorize a 150mm frame as being geared toward XC/trail. But hey, that's another subjective topic. You consider the E10 to have modern geometry. I don't. Different strokes for different folks, and that's fine. We could go back and forth on this at nauseum, but that is...

Again, bike geometry is subjective. OP said he desired a slacker head tube angle. The VMG provides that without tweaking/sacrificing reach or seat tube angle via a 27.5 rear and/or geoadjust headset. If OP desired a steeper headtube on a frame, I wouldn't have suggested the VMG.

The E10 has a steeper headtube angle and slacker seat tube angle.

It's just a cheap ZTTO aluminum side mount bottle cage off aliexpress. Should be less than $10 delivered to USA. The bottle fits but it's a bit tight so it needs a little wrestling in and out. No big deal, it hasn't dropped a bottle yet. I use this same bottle holder on all my bikes.

https://vmgbikes.com/product/vmg-typhon-frameset/

Compared to the VMG, it's dated. But you're right, "modern geometry" is subjective.

Finally recieved my frame. Assembly was straight forward and I didn't run into any real issues. Chris has been very helpful and attentive during the process. The bike feels great on the trail. The geo feels great. Motor has plenty of power for steep climbs. The battery capacity is pretty...

Check out the VMG Typhon. It's really the only modern geometry DIY frame.

I second what VMG Chris stated. The Typhon is by far the most modern Enduro DIY Ebike geometry wise. I have not received mine yet so I can't comment on anything other than the numbers on paper.

Check out the thread I just created in this section called VMG Typhon discussion. It by far looks like the best frame option.

https://vmgbikes.com/product/e-mountain-bike/ This looks like a great option for those of us that want to start with a bare frame/motor/battery and build our own bike. It's available as a complete bike or frame only. The geometry is very modern. I placed a pre-order for one of these frames in...

Does the frameset include the motor and battery? And will yall ship to the USA?

You can purchase the E10 on Alibaba. They will ship to USA.

Great thanks! The 170mm Brand X dropper I'm eyeballing should work just fine then!

Does anyone know what size dropper post a size medium frame can handle?

Does anyone know if a 170mm dropper post will fit slammed into a medium (17.5) E10 frame?

In case anyone is still wondering.. I was able to order an E10 frame from Alibaba and it will be shipped directly to me in the USA. $2287 delivered for a painted grey frame, m600 motor, and 840wh battery.

Thank you! Glad it worked out well for you geometry wise.

Good looking bike! Thanks for sharing your journey and build with us! Question... the ebay link you provided for the frame has a geometry chart for the frame which shows a 72.5 degree seat tube angle. The E22 frames listed on Alibaba also show a 72.5 degree seat tube angle. I emailed Watts...