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This is a misleading point. Pivot sold through and delivered their first production run of Amp’d bikes. Amflow has yet to deliver any new bikes to US end users.If you could only get a Pivot AMP'd here in the US either. I sat there while my dealer called trying to get a Team XX for me, no bueno and no date given. My Amflow PX Carbon Pro will likely be here in 3-4 weeks.
So dealers couldn't even preorder them yet? I put in my reservation like a month ago.PX Carbon dealer pre-orders opened this morning for dealer delivery reservation. PR will be later.
Me too. Yes, they are entering them now for finality. The original orders were fed to them early on to judge volume for delivery waves.So dealers couldn't even preorder them yet? I put in my reservation like a month ago.
I am curious what sort of rides you see yourself doing, where the 700wh battery pack would be advantageous? I understand that the motor will hit higher peak outputs when using the 700, and sustain them beyond 10min without derating, due to the custom cells, but I had the opposite take on the situation.Yeah, PX Pro all the way with the new custom battery cells. PR is not even a consideration for me. Look here to understand.
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No other bikes have this custom battery like the PX (other than Atherton).
Personally I think the 700wh is ideal for many of my rides, and hopefully they'll come out with the rumored 200-400wh extender for my longest rides. 800wh is a bit more than I need for most rides, and 800wh+extender is more than I need for any of my rides.I am curious what sort of rides you see yourself doing, where the 700wh battery pack would be advantageous? I understand that the motor will hit higher peak outputs when using the 700, and sustain them beyond 10min without derating, due to the custom cells, but I had the opposite take on the situation.
To my mind, sure, the higher output could occasionally be fun, but the M2S (and M2, and M1 for that matter) are already so damn powerful that getting a full 1500w just doesn't seem like a very important feature. Similarly, most of my climbs are short enough that derating after 10min wouldn't be a problem, and, more importantly, if I were doing a trip to an alpine area with climbs of 20-40min+, I wouldn't want to use the higher output due to range anxiety. Sure, the 700 battery could sustain a higher output for the whole climb, but you would essentially deplete the whole battery by the time you reach the top. Plus your motor would be boiling hot. If you want to do 2 (or more) climbs like that in a day, you need to drop down to a lower assist mode, in which case the higher output and lack of derating of the 700wh cease to be advantagous.
For those reasons, I was leaning more toward bikes with the 800wh battery, as the power outputs and durations seem more than sufficient for real world use, and I'd have an additional 100wh on board to reduce range anxiety. The weight will be slightly higher, but the wh/kg ratio is actually surprisingly close to the 700wh battery, so the extra weight is, at least in part, related to the extra 100wh, rather than just being reflective of the "older" tech.
About the only time I'd thought I might prefer the 700wh would be if I only had 60-90min to ride, and wanted to just rip the whole ride at 100% pace. That sounds super fun, but I wouldn't want to buy a bike that is optimized just for that, at the expense of longer rides.
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No problem getting PX in Norway but PR lots of people reckon is the best buy in the emtb world is maybe available next year though ads is everywhere.Yo Amflow if you are still listening on the forums...
Your reputation is going down the drain in the US and Canada. Why advertise the crap out of your bike and now nothing? Not even an explanation of what is going on. Just be truthful with us. I understand not putting a date out there if you dont know but tell us what is going on. Keeping us in the dark isn't gonna make us wait for them. We will get another bike.
Also, you advertise the crap out of the extender and nothing.
As for myself, I dont know if Id buy an Amflow now. You have really disappointment me and a lot of other customers.
Now that there are other choices, people are not gonna look at Amflow.
I think North American consumers are getting a lesson in a difference between a new brand; and established one. There's no way I feel as confident buying a $10,000 bike from a relatively new Chinese brand as I do an established, legacy brand. Caveat emptor.Yo Amflow if you are still listening on the forums...
Your reputation is going down the drain in the US and Canada. Why advertise the crap out of your bike and now nothing? Not even an explanation of what is going on. Just be truthful with us. I understand not putting a date out there if you dont know but tell us what is going on. Keeping us in the dark isn't gonna make us wait for them. We will get another bike.
Also, you advertise the crap out of the extender and nothing.
As for myself, I dont know if Id buy an Amflow now. You have really disappointment me and a lot of other customers.
Now that there are other choices, people are not gonna look at Amflow.
I think North American consumers are getting a lesson in a difference between a new brand; and established one. There's no way I feel as confident buying a $10,000 bike from a relatively new Chinese brand as I do an established, legacy brand. Caveat emptor.
I can tell you the ships are lined up waiting to get into Long Beach CAIf these bikes are coming over via boat nobody knows when they would make it through port. Anytime a container gets into port it might sit there for a week or two months. Just the way it works.
If these bikes are coming over via boat nobody knows when they would make it through port. Anytime a container gets into port it might sit there for a week or two months. Just the way it works.
I'm not standing behind the accuracy of that Insta post, but the guy said they're not on the water and at least 4 weeks out. If I was really invested I'd reach out to him directly. For all I know there's more info in the comments. I didn't do any digging.I can tell you the ships are lined up waiting to get into Long Beach CA
BS. A sitting container is costing you money by the day, you want it moved out of a port asap.If these bikes are coming over via boat nobody knows when they would make it through port. Anytime a container gets into port it might sit there for a week or two months. Just the way it works.