WatermanJim
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A large LBS chain that pre-orderd a bunch of bikes did offer a demo, so it not a rule and they not hiding anything.
Levo Gen 4 Specialized Gen 4 Levo - Official Thread
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WatermanJim
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haha true, i'll have to say it looks much better from the top. So much focus has been put on the downtube that its kinda hard to stop 'seeing' it. Like a big mole on someones face you got to just forget about at it and see the bike as a whole.
WatermanJim
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Even Asa can't make that bike look good, change it to silver already!!
It's satin champagne and change color at different angles.
Anyway I will know exactly how it looks and feels at the end of May.
I'm thinking more Satan's Champagne
I take your point, but like i said at this price range its got to tick all the boxs and how it looks is very important, if was an 8-9k bike then maybe you could forgive its looks a bit. But at 12.5k here in UK and its not a good looking bike IMo.
Loamranger
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Specialized need to get back to offering demo rides, used to be a regular feature a few years back.
Even better in these days.
Eduardoramundo
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If you are selling every bike you have then you do not need to offer demo rides.
I am sure dealers will offer demo’s once they have plenty of stock and things calm dow ln
charleyc
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I am a general liker of pink and other bright "girly" colors on bikes. The problem with that "rose gold" color isn't that it's pink, it's that it's "grandma's Apple watch" pink.
If it was neon pink the bike would be sick. As-is, it looks like ugly jewelry.
If it was neon pink the bike would be sick. As-is, it looks like ugly jewelry.
fuzzydunlop
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Wonder if they’ll finally make the old mastermind available aftermarket.
Eduardoramundo
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No chance
WatermanJim
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First ride today on the green expert. Rocky rooty PA trails are some of the most technical in the usa so it was a good test and the bike did live up to the hype. 15miles 2000ft, 40% left, trail mode. All stock settings. Much faster and smoother while also being more lively and manuverable and thank god its quiet. The bike felt slightly smaller. It popped over roots and rocks no problem and the rear is easy to lift and toss around. the extra weight was surprisingly unnoticible. the body position is better than gen 3 and i felt more confident in corners right away. I set it up with the Spesh calculator and it was close. it did not give me a compression setting for the shock but i found that 6 turns out is good. opening her up at high speed through the rocks is where a trail bike usually falls apart and the levo got smoother and handlled the hard hits well. I did feel the rear end clunk a bit so i will think about adjusting the spacers in the shock. The 28mph setting is great but i turned it off for the first ride to see if the limiter would interfere, plus my buddies were razzing me haha. It held me back a few times on mild downhills and i dont like the feel when hitting jumps even tiny ones. next time i just going to set to class 3. I'll take this option rather than change the rear tire diameter to milk it for a couple mph. switched bikes with my buddy and his gen3 was just fine, felt smooth quiet and powerfull. the big difference was the feel climbing over rocks. the gen 4 is waaay better. My 250lb buddy was instantly converted and was gushing afterward. the extra power is great on the techy climbs and the delivery is amazing. i easily cleared rock steps that i thought would be more difficult and i never felt the overrun like i often do on my gen3. the power delivery is also a game changer imo. I like the altitude meter too. All in all it is a great package that is hard to beat.
WatermanJim
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Will look great with your blue hair ;P
My understanding is 28 mph is half power and is provided for the convenience of road commuting to the trail for example. What exactly is the application in the dirt? Please elaborate.
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WatermanJim
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I didnt feel any change as i passed 20mph in the parking lot and had it on for a short while on the trail and felt full power below 20 with it in the class 3 mode. I dont think there is any power drop while using class 3. bike is way more fun off the leash.
retrograde
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My dealer popped open the box on my expert and it has alloy rims. He's not sure why you got carbon, but congrats! I was told there are two US distribution centers, Salt Lake City and Morgan Hill. Perhaps that's a differentiator (mine shipped from SLC, ordered through the dealer not online).
That green is nice. I'm calling it Maxima Mineral Oil Green.
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Chris_R
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do you have comparable numbers for your gen3? Sounds very similar (or even worse compared) to gen3 for me?
electricbogaloo
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That is to be expected because the more powerful motor draws more power from the battery.
What do you reckon will your LBS let customers pay the extra 10% or will they bear the cost themselves?
retrograde
Member
FC always has the scoop. He lives near Silicon Valley which is fairly affluent so that regional customer base will likely accept the clown tax. I'm in a small city with two Specialized dealers - guessing they might deal a little on the surcharge to compete against each other. But the tariff situation can change very quickly since our regime is so unpredictable. Broadly speaking, it's tough to do business in the US at the moment especially since we have a service economy.
The biggest problem for all industries is now predictability.
WatermanJim
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Thanks, yes feeling lucky. Mine came from SLC, says on the box.
Those mushy mavens needed a good shot to tighten them up, the feel is superb when set right.
WatermanJim
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Yes, felt like the increase in power and the increase in battery size evens out to be about the same. I deffinitely had and used more power than i needed on that ride and plan to reduce the trail mode settings by 20%. I need to get 35 miles and 4000vert out of this thing next friday.
WatermanJim
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yes i think Spesh already planned on a price increase thats why they started low, remember the initial prices were $1000 higher on that US list before 4/8. Even at 10% more my expert is still $550 less than it was 4 years ago so I find it a bit unfair to complain about pricing.
Chris_R
Member
It's like 10% torque and power difference hence approx 10% less range? I'd assumes you could compensate by tuning the assistance. 50% of max power differs for these bikes, so on sworks you just go down to 45% to obtain the same range. Guess they used eco mode as baseline for these numbers
electricbogaloo
Active member
They want to make the s works feel more powerful so maybe all it's settings are tweaked so that the motor provides more assistance but also burns more battery. Similar to the Bosch race. It's the same internals, just different software settings.
Power1tobe
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True Story, if you place it in Class 3 it reduces the power to 250w, says it right on screen. Honestly for all the haters that complained about this it is really only viable on flat smooth bike paths. If you want to fly on the trails then you would go into the settings and turn on shuttle and crank it to 100%. Basically Max power for the least input power.
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