Wheels!

[ArjanH]

Have been through a bunch of Spokes now, a bucket load of new rim tape and gallons of seal. I am throwing in the towel on the OEM wheels.

What is good? I am kinda eyeing up the Crank brother synthesis ones but am open to suggestions.

 

[Astro66]

The rims are fine. Just change the hubs and spokes. I use the DT Swiss 350 Clones. The Koozer 350. They have been brilliant and I haven't broken a single J-Type spoke since. Front and rear hubs is about AUD$220. 56 spokes about AUD$50.

Or pay more and get the DT Swiss 350 hubs. Either way it's much cheaper than buying a wheelset, and you keep the original Amflow Rims.

 

[ArjanH]

The rims are fine. Just change the hubs and spokes. I use the DT Swiss 350 Clones. The Koozer 350. They have been brilliant and I haven't broken a single J-Type spoke since. Front and rear hubs is about AUD$220. 56 spokes about AUD$50.

Or pay more and get the DT Swiss 350 hubs. Either way it's much cheaper than buying a wheelset, and you keep the original Amflow Rims.

Interesting ... I had all the spokes upgraded to Sapim 2.0 1.5 2.0 but they are still breaking ... what difference would a hub make? Bare in mind that I have noticed they all seem to break near the same place very close to the rim. So in the thickest part. I was thinking the rim (all breaks are on the rear) is just too flexy. But the last one yesterday broke on a straight bit of track just as I started braking. I wasn't even going fast.

 

[Astro66]

what difference would a hub make?

J-Type spokes. And laced up with correct tension.

I found bloody Loctite on the Amflow original spoke nipples. I couldn't even reset the tension, and infact had to cut many of the spokes to get them out. They were just a shit build.

But the Amflow carbon rims are very well built. Quality looks fantastic. So for sub AUD$300, you can have a great quality set of carbon wheels, and hub, by changing out the hubs and spokes. I have done the same on my Teewing Flux. No broken spokes. Hub performing well.

BTW. I did initially use hubs with alloy axles. That was a mistake. They did bend slightly under extreme use. But the Koozer and DT 350 hubs have ChroMoly axles and have been great. Just grease the freehub ratchet faces well before installing.

 

[ArjanH]

J-Type spokes. And laced up with correct tension.

I found bloody Loctite on the Amflow original spoke nipples. I couldn't even reset the tension, and infact had to cut many of the spokes to get them out. They were just a shit build.

But the Amflow carbon rims are very well built. Quality looks fantastic. So for sub AUD$300, you can have a great quality set of carbon wheels, and hub, by changing out the hubs and spokes. I have done the same on my Teewing Flux. No broken spokes. Hub performing well.

BTW. I did initially use hubs with alloy axles. That was a mistake. They did bend slightly under extreme use. But the Koozer and DT 350 hubs have ChroMoly axles and have been great. Just grease the freehub ratchet faces well before installing.

Funny thing ... my LBS told me the same thing about the rims. Well, it's worth a try, I guess. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Astro66]

my LBS told me the same thing about the rims.

I joined the Amflow facebook group. Haven't heard of failed rims yet. Have seen a couple of rim impacts that cracked the rim. But every one you could see the tyre was damaged as well. So clearly an under-inflation issue, and why I run the Tannus Armour Liners, so I can run lower pressures, without risk of rim damage.

But hubs and spokes. Seen lots of rebuilt hubs. Most bearing failures. Lots of broken spokes. I'd say most are poor spoke tensioning.

 

[Vision_Tim]

The stock aluminum hoops are too soft. Second ride a root dented the rear wheel on a root strike that never affects my others 4 bikes. 29psi, going 8mph (I have video.). Warranty denied. Switched out with Hunt Proven Enduros and no issues since.

 

[ozzybmx]

I bought the silver Amflow because I didn't want electronic shifting, the fork, the wheels, the brakes. dropper etc ....

Built my own wheels, stuck with the shifting, TRP pro brakes, Carbon wheels with DT 240 and Comp spokes, mech BikeYoke dropper, shit that I alway run and am happy.

The wheels are shit, the dropper is shit, the bars, the stem and brakes. The fork is good for 60kg girls, at least give that bike a 38.

 

[Astro66]

Second ride a root dented the rear wheel on a root strike that never affects my others 4 bikes.

I've dented RaceFace Alloy DH rims. And they are tough rims. That's why I started running Armoured Liners. Never dented a rim again. Never got a puncture again.

I can now run lighter alloy rims with the Armoured Liners, and still no issues. I'm running the lighter alloys on the Teewing, rather than carbon.

 

[EMTB-by-the-Sea]

Found a deal on a Reserve 30SL rear wheel with DT350 hub when I did my mullet setup. Been running that out of the box with no issue. Now tempted to get a matching front wheel (mostly because I'm vain ).

 

[Brawwp]

Keep the amflow wheels for when you sell the bike. Invest in a very good wheelset. You can just swap the wheelset on your next bike too. We are one, reserve, etc. it’s a worthy investment. I bent my amflow stock wheel on like the second ride. Replaced with we are one wheelset and had zero issue. Went with reserves on my new bike build. Reserve and WAO also have lifetime warranty, so if any issue just put the a stock back on and send it out.

 

[ArjanH]

Keep the amflow wheels for when you sell the bike. Invest in a very good wheelset. You can just swap the wheelset on your next bike too. We are one, reserve, etc. it’s a worthy investment. I bent my amflow stock wheel on like the second ride. Replaced with we are one wheelset and had zero issue. Went with reserves on my new bike build. Reserve and WAO also have lifetime warranty, so if any issue just put the a stock back on and send it out.

Sell my bike? You are talking like my ex wife . I see your point though ... Yes these wheels are not going anywhere.

 

[Brawwp]

Sell my bike? You are talking like my ex wife . I see your point though ... Yes these wheels are not going anywhere.

Sell to only get another new one

 

[dreys]

Interesting ... I had all the spokes upgraded to Sapim 2.0 1.5 2.0 but they are still breaking ... what difference would a hub make? Bare in mind that I have noticed they all seem to break near the same place very close to the rim. So in the thickest part. I was thinking the rim (all breaks are on the rear) is just too flexy. But the last one yesterday broke on a straight bit of track just as I started braking. I wasn't even going fast.

Going with 2.0/1.5/2.0 is a downgrade, not an upgrade. Get stronger 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes, and have someone professionally build you a set with correct tension.