Forbidden DreadNought E

[iJak]

nice, good luck w the build! 48lbs would be nice. I'm likely to diverge in the other direction and make the eDread heavier with a dual crown

just curious - what locations are you finding your weight savings in?

From the T4 components, I calculated about net 840g of savings - close to 2 lbs. I got some components that will add weight, but overall lighter, big ones are:

Air shock - Intend hover monocoque (150g ~ 1/3 lb)
Fork - Manitou Mezzer (450g ~ 1lbs)
Cassette - XG1295 (180g ~ 1/3lbs)
Carbon Wheelset - (210g ~ 1/2 lbs)

 

[jbrown15]

Can anyone comment about the installed ridewrap? I am considering getting the ridewrap to cover the whole frame but I am unsure if I want to remove the already installed ridewrap parts oder get just the supplementary kit. Thanks!

I have both but have a buyer lined up for my Druid. The Ride Wrappes installed the same as it did on my Druid. Forbidden makes it sounds like the bike is fully Ride Wrapped but it’s only on a few sections. I tried to order the tailored kit that takes into account where the factory wrap is but it’s not available. So I just ordered the full tailored kit, pulled off the few factory pieces and had my mechanic wrap the full bike. snapped a few bad pics but it’s not built yet. Will finish it tomorrow. Still need to install my Trickstuff brakes and set everything up. Kind of going for a Chrome and orange colour look. Think I’ll order a coil DHX2 for it too.

 

[Db1234]

It’s a proper Fugly bike from the left had side isn’t it!? Looks like a Lego bike. No wonder you never see any OEM photos of that side of it

 

[Barty_NorthVan]

It’s a proper Fugly bike from the left had side isn’t it!? Looks like a Lego bike. No wonder you never see any OEM photos of that side of it

They look incredible in person. I think it's the nicest looking bike I've ever seen!

 

[Barty_NorthVan]

Picked up mine on Thursday night from the LBS. First ride was yesterday and did 21km /1000m of climbing in only 1:15 of moving time. Stupid fast!!!

For those wondering about size - At 5' 10" I ended up going with the S3 and glad I did. It's much more nimble than I thought it would be. The high stack makes it so comfortable to ride and it's designed so well. Moving my weight off my hands and to my feet made the bike come alive and the handling and speeds increased instantly.

Also, It is completely silent. No chain slap, no motor noise, no hub noise, Just tires on dirt. It's such an amazing feeling.

The pictures don't do it justice. It's a beauty!

 

[ntm95]

Broke mine in at Valemount, BC today !
S3 was spot on at 6’, 34” inseam.
Maybe could go to 50mm bars, but it’s pretty close.
Set a bunch of e-bike pr’s without even trying. Corners like the acoustic dreadnought, rails like nothing else can.
Obliterates the battery in turbo .

 

[jbrown15]

Manager to finish installing my brakes and doing an initial setup and taking it for a quick rip tonight after work.

 

[Red Peekay]

such a great colour combo! those pedals/stem gotta go tho

Match the flowers but....

 

[Red Peekay]

Manager to finish installing my brakes and doing an initial setup and taking it for a quick rip tonight after work. View attachment 184215View attachment 184214

Is that an electronic dropper you got there?? Rockshox? What size did you manage to stuff in?

 

[jbrown15]

Is that an electronic dropper you got there?? Rockshox? What size did you manage to stuff in?

Fox Neo, it’s the 175mm. But I tried a 200mm and it fully slams in a S2 frame. In both my DruidE and DreadnoughtE.

 

[Tokidokijake]

Looks like a lot of people getting their bikes and initial rides in! Anyone with a Druid E fill us in how different they feel!

 

[mhueschen]

Looks like a lot of people getting their bikes and initial rides in! Anyone with a Druid E fill us in how different they feel!

I have a Druid CorE and just got a DreadE. almost 800mi on the former and just over 50 on the latter.

DreadE has worse suspension currently and I also haven't gotten the clickers dialed in. I'm also trying Schwalbe radial tires (Mary Gravity Ultra Soft front, Tacky Chan Gravity Soft rear) on the DreadE, which seem to offer phenomenal grip and are really impressing me

so with some significant component differences muddying the comparison a bit -

the DreadE is inarguably aggressive. like the PinkBike review said, it feels bored unless you are committed and aggressive and going fast. I had a mediocre first ride on it, and I now believe I just wasn't riding aggressively enough (trying to be safe on the first ride). my 2nd and 3rd rides I've been letting it eat more and it's been impressive, even with the not-ideal suspension.

ride video from y'day: Olé

these trails are not very steep, since I want to build familiarity with the bike before taking it to the gnarly spots. I notice that it's hard to turn the DreadE in on flatter terrain, which hasn't felt like an issue on the Druid. I've learned to be more aggressive with leaning the bike and initiating corners early, which is helping.

I love the Druid for most of the terrain near me, but since I'm adding muscle and getting above 90kg rider weight lately, I have encountered the limitations of the 150mm rear travel on drops and jumps.

the DreadE feels confidence inspiring in that regard, which is exactly what I was hoping for

 

[mhueschen]

oh, I have finally been convinced that the purple and red are too much. the visual stacking is very apparent in video. going to swap the purple for silver accents

 

[Tokidokijake]

I have a Druid CorE and just got a DreadE. almost 800mi on the former and just over 50 on the latter.

DreadE has worse suspension currently and I also haven't gotten the clickers dialed in. I'm also trying Schwalbe radial tires (Mary Gravity Ultra Soft front, Tacky Chan Gravity Soft rear) on the DreadE, which seem to offer phenomenal grip and are really impressing me

so with some significant component differences muddying the comparison a bit -

the DreadE is inarguably aggressive. like the PinkBike review said, it feels bored unless you are committed and aggressive and going fast. I had a mediocre first ride on it, and I now believe I just wasn't riding aggressively enough (trying to be safe on the first ride). my 2nd and 3rd rides I've been letting it eat more and it's been impressive, even with the not-ideal suspension.

ride video from y'day: Olé

these trails are not very steep, since I want to build familiarity with the bike before taking it to the gnarly spots. I notice that it's hard to turn the DreadE in on flatter terrain, which hasn't felt like an issue on the Druid. I've learned to be more aggressive with leaning the bike and initiating corners early, which is helping.

I love the Druid for most of the terrain near me, but since I'm adding muscle and getting above 90kg rider weight lately, I have encountered the limitations of the 150mm rear travel on drops and jumps.

the DreadE feels confidence inspiring in that regard, which is exactly what I was hoping for

Thanks! I'm roughly 100kg and also feeling the limits of the 150 so have been looking for a bigger bike. I'm starting to consider the new crestline as well. I'm curious how different dread daddy and the crestie are to each other.

 

[ntm95]

oh, I have finally been convinced that the purple and red are too much. the visual stacking is very apparent in video. going to swap the purple for silver accents

Black !
The silver just looks off on these bikes for some reason.

What you're feeling there might be similar to what I noted on the acoustic versions. The dready likes speed, the more energy you have to give to a corner, the more it will reward you with gobs of traction. Watching that video, the energy you're carrying into corners is pretty minimal.

Where do you find the suspension being deficient ?

 

[ntm95]

Thanks! I'm roughly 100kg and also feeling the limits of the 150 so have been looking for a bigger bike. I'm starting to consider the new crestline as well. I'm curious how different dread daddy and the crestie are to each other.

They are distinctly different.
The cresty has a suspension feel that is surprisingly taught/stiff for a 180mm bike. But you can feel flex in the rear end when you load it up. Geo is closer to typical feeling.
The dready (fox spec) is less poppy, more ground hugging. Still gets up when you want though. I prefer it's geo and less flexy rear end.
Both great bikes, if I had too choose, it'd be the cresty as an all arounder, dready for going fast and smashing corners.

 

[Tokidokijake]

They are distinctly different.
The cresty has a suspension feel that is surprisingly taught/stiff for a 180mm bike. But you can feel flex in the rear end when you load it up. Geo is closer to typical feeling.
The dready (fox spec) is less poppy, more ground hugging. Still gets up when you want though. I prefer it's geo and less flexy rear end.
Both great bikes, if I had too choose, it'd be the cresty as an all arounder, dready for going fast and smashing corners.

Nice! I really appreciate that insight, I’d love to ride the dready but I think it just might not be what I’m looking for despite originally thinking it was. In my progression as a rider I am still learning what I like and don’t like and comments like yours help me narrow things down. Thanks!

 

[ShapeThings]

I’ve had two VPP bikes and never gelled with it, prefer a Horst for my use case. Another thing to consider is dropper insertion being impacted by a shock tunnel and shock accessibility. There is a reason all bikes are going crab…

 

[jbrown15]

Black !
The silver just looks off on these bikes for some reason.

What you're feeling there might be similar to what I noted on the acoustic versions. The dready likes speed, the more energy you have to give to a corner, the more it will reward you with gobs of traction. Watching that video, the energy you're carrying into corners is pretty minimal.

Where do you find the suspension being deficient ?

I don’t know, I think I can make a valid argument that silver looks good on these bikes…lol

 

[ntm95]

I don’t know, I think I can make a valid argument that silver looks good on these bikes…lol View attachment 184643View attachment 184644

I’m normally the “ostentatious” type, but I like the black more on this bike. They did a nice job with the lines/silhouette, component colours seem to break it up and make it “unclean” somehow.

 

[jbrown15]

I’m normally the “ostentatious” type, but I like the black more on this bike. They did a nice job with the lines/silhouette, component colours seem to break it up and make it “unclean” somehow.
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For me, black on black is to plain for this bike. The bike is sick and needs to stand out a little…..lol

 

[Red Peekay]

I’m normally the “ostentatious” type, but I like the black more on this bike. They did a nice job with the lines/silhouette, component colours seem to break it up and make it “unclean” somehow.
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I've got to say, the black/grey combo seems to look better in these photos than on their website. I wish they had just run all black, but at least it's not cream or brown

I'm already accumulating some deeper orange bling to (pedals, valve caps, grips etc) just to add contrast in anticipation of arrival.... unless of course they pull a Druide on me and don't ship to Oz until Jan next year.... in which case I will probably cancel the order as I'll be out of country again from Dec to April.

And so the waiting game continues....

 

[ntm95]

I've got to say, the black/grey combo seems to look better in these photos than on their website. I wish they had just run all black, but at least it's not cream or brown

I'm already accumulating some deeper orange bling to (pedals, valve caps, grips etc) just to add contrast in anticipation of arrival.... unless of course they pull a Druide on me and don't ship to Oz until Jan next year.... in which case I will probably cancel the order as I'll be out of country again from Dec to April.

And so the waiting game continues....

Orange stuff would be alright, as it jives with the fork/accents.

 

[Ribinrobin]

Forbidden seem to always lack a bit on colour and paint choices. My 24 druid (normal) when they did a full colour is lovely, but ive never been a fan of the half and half jobs. i know they did it to save painting rear triangles different colours but its an expensive bit of kit to have bad colour ways/designs.

 

[Hob Nob]

It was either this one or the base spec colour for me, but given I was using up some favour tokens, I didn’t have a lot of choice. I don’t mind the raw / black with the orange writing, but the orange forks, Kashima gold & then other colours just seems to clash horribly. I went the other way, stealthy as possible, everything on mine now is either black or grey

It’s had some miles now & still going great, apart from the last ride which I fully wrote off an X0 T-Type mech with a big rock, mid corner.

It’s forced me into a decision I have been pondering for a while, mostly why do e-bikes come with T-Type (or equivalent 12 speed groupsets with massive cassette range). Given the motor output, it’s utterly pointless, I never ride this bike in Eco so I don’t need a massive range & looking at my usage, I’m almost never above gear 8.

So, I’m breaking out an old Saint 10spd mech / XTR shifter, 10spd chain & 11-36 cassette as I can run an HG freehub on the wheels I have.

Looking forward to a mech which the lower arm is made of something stronger than soft cheese & about a third of the size - stronger, lighter, more practical & I can replace the whole drivetrain for less than the price of an X0 cassette.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

mostly why do e-bikes come with T-Type (or equivalent 12 speed groupsets with massive cassette range). Given the motor output, it’s utterly pointless, I never ride this bike in Eco so I don’t need a massive range & looking at my usage, I’m almost never above gear 8.

Agree completely. These are XC range pedal bike gearing we are using. I swear the use case for these is Nino Schurter style lightweight light duty components. They are the achillies heel of modern e-mountain bikes.

I wish SRAM would hurry up and release a short cage, lower ratio full power emtb drivetrain and cassette.

 

[Nomadic Dad]

I've been enjoying Linkglide 11 speed for the last year via the 11-50t and can get the chains for £15 each on offer most of the time. The cost of maintaining the fancy SRAM drivetrain on the Avinox powered bikes is one of the reasons I'm still holding off even though I'd love the fancy static shifting it's just not worth 4 X the price every few months to me.

 

[Hob Nob]

Agree completely. These are XC range pedal bike gearing we are using. I swear the use case for these is Nino Schurter style lightweight light duty components. They are the achillies heel of modern e-mountain bikes.

I wish SRAM would hurry up and release a short cage, lower ratio full power emtb drivetrain and cassette.

Hoping for a modern version of EX1 (really don’t need anything bigger than a 36T cassette on a modern EMTB groupset).

I’d even given up the auto shift & go back to cables (really not that bothered by wireless either on an EMTB).

If it’s too much range for the Saint mech, my second plan was one of the GS cage Deore Linkglide rear mechs, with an XTR shifter & 10sp SRAM/Shim cassette

 

[Suns_PSD]

Agree completely. These are XC range pedal bike gearing we are using. I swear the use case for these is Nino Schurter style lightweight light duty components. They are the achillies heel of modern e-mountain bikes.

I wish SRAM would hurry up and release a short cage, lower ratio full power emtb drivetrain and cassette.

It has to be in the pipeline already.

A 8-10 speed wide ratio heavy duty all steel cassette around 10-40 with a high end electronic hard-wired derailleur is the holy grail.

That said, it's maybe not the best choice for the Avinox powered bikes running 1500 watts, but I'm finding an X01 11 speed cassette combined with a Wheeltop derailleur to be a pretty sweet compromise on my 'mid-power' Bosch CX-R. Really the only thing I'd change is for it to be hard wired in.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Agree completely. These are XC range pedal bike gearing we are using. I swear the use case for these is Nino Schurter style lightweight light duty components. They are the achillies heel of modern e-mountain bikes.

I wish SRAM would hurry up and release a short cage, lower ratio full power emtb drivetrain and cassette.

On its way right, seeing as the DH AXS is here now.