I think the theory is all well and good but it doesn' t seem to pan out like that. Coming from my Shuttle SL to a Vala I do notice a significant difference but it's not twice as quick (350 vs 750). I think the hill climbs he does on E-MTB review are interesting and, fixed rider weight, 200W input, max mode, etc. I think the original CX5 85Nm was around 4:50
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want to argue with you, but im doing my spring manual gravel long distance rides. And my strength on the Ebike did increase. But gravel bike verses Ebiking on single track, is a far better whole body work out. Manual bike just a little better on the legs
It is just different muscle groups, my first manual ride of the yar was 40 miles, then 60, 70 and 80 on forth ride, because my Ebike kept me in such good shape.
It's official: 120nm, 600%, but still only 750w.
From MBR:
From MBR:
Bosch has launched a second new over-the-air update for owners of e-bikes with Performance CX gen 5 motors. The upgrade 2.0 increases peak torque to 120Nm and maximum support to 600%, making it easier to access full power from the motor. Given that Bosch has been clear about its views on raising peak power, it’s no surprise that the CX remains capped at 750W. Alongside the increase in torque and support, Bosch is adding the option to tune Extended Boost (motor overrun) in the Flow app, as well as a Drivetrain Tensioner, that makes the motor feel more responsive when getting on the gas. The other big news is that @boschebikesystems finally has a 12A fast charger coming to market which will dramatically improve recharge times and give the potential for double battery days without needing to buy a spare. Unfortunately the chargers are not due to go on sale until the end of 2026. All this combines with Bosch’s Trick Check app launched recently that gamifies the riding experience, giving you stats on wheelies, endos and airtime. One final update is the ability to pair with a @garmincycling device to monitor data such as power, cadence and battery life.
Mario Antony
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Well hope that 12A charger is available for the 625/750Wh Smartsystem Batteries.
No need to carry or buy more batteries. On ride day... just go with the charger: a lot lighter... lot easier!
1 Hour to lunch and have a pint...or 2, and we get ~ 50% = NICE
Bosch make it happen please! Before the end of Summer if possible
Mario Antony
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I'm thinking on assemble a Gravel bike, even more after seeing the price of an Open New U.P.
BTW - best way to gain strenght is the gym! Do specific exercises and you'll notice after a while!
Always had pain in the back, and solved it by strenghtning all my back muscles.
All over that, I combine both.
Broke my back at 18 in a motorcycle accident. It used to go out once a year for 40+ years no matter how fit I was. Then for 4 years out was going out for a month or two each year. Stopped cross country running and started high bike miles, so 9000 miles last two years, and climbed over 1,300,000' and back only went out once, I was like a cure. In March I was squatting with light weights and back went out, took a good three weeks before i could even pick up my curling bar with my lighter weights. And 4-5 weeks I got back to my normal weight range. So understood.
You can double the power of a car and it does not make it twice as fast.
Same applies to our e-bikes.
Theoretically it should be a lot more linear, air resistance is a big non-linear factor at car speeds but negligible for an emtb climbing at relatively slow speeds.
Someone smarter than me can model it properly but to compare you need to consider system power and losses e.g 350 vs 700 isn't double the power if the rider inputs 200w.
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I didn’t know the difference either, thanks for the thread
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DToX
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I see you are a man of taste
