Pivot Amp’d Avinox

I would be interested in a second 600W battery option for the new Pivot Shuttle Ampd/ Avinox S2 if anyone knows of compatibility/availability through Pivot?
 
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Saw the bicolor Pro here at the LBS, already sold. Looks very nice and they expect more bikes late April / May that may be abailable for a quick test around the corner. Then in June there is a plan for a guided Pivot Test Ride event nearby for that I registered. Still a hell of a money for a bicycle.
 
Saw the bicolor Pro here at the LBS, already sold. Looks very nice and they expect more bikes late April / May that may be abailable for a quick test around the corner. Then in June there is a plan for a guided Pivot Test Ride event nearby for that I registered. Still a hell of a money for a bicycle.
Call me crazy if you want, but I think the Amp'd pricing is exactly right when seen in perspective to the current marketplace. It's essentially $1800 more than an Amflow PX Pro, but comes with a better Zeb Ultimate fork (IMO), RS shock that I prefer, DT wheels, and better brakes (IMO); plus Pivot is a much more premium brand with wayyy more experience building high-quality bikes. Plus the Amp'd is simply better looking to me than the Amflow PX with that cheap looking bent top tube.

I think that's worth $1800.
 
Call me crazy if you want, but I think the Amp'd pricing is exactly right when seen in perspective to the current marketplace. It's essentially $1800 more than an Amflow PX Pro, but comes with a better Zeb Ultimate fork (IMO), RS shock that I prefer, DT wheels, and better brakes (IMO); plus Pivot is a much more premium brand with wayyy more experience building high-quality bikes. Plus the Amp'd is simply better looking to me than the Amflow PX with that cheap looking bent top tube.

I think that's worth $1800.
Right. Well, it feels some kind of overkill for my use cases. That is why I appreciate the possibility to test the bike on a trail with some advice instead of parking lot round. Around 2010 Canyon was offering rental bikes on a hourly basis with setting up properly & GPS routing at a excellent shop in Heerlen, Netherlands. That was great to test 100mm vs 120mm Canyons full suspension bikes and finally for finding right frame size. Rental fees have been credited when buying.👍

Regarding frame design I like the lower section of the Amflow more than the Pivot:

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Right. Well, it feels some kind of overkill for my use cases. That is why I appreciate the possibility to test the bike on a trail with some advice instead of parking lot round. Around 2010 Canyon was offering rental bikes on a hourly basis with setting up properly & GPS routing at a excellent shop in Heerlen, Netherlands. That was great to test 100mm vs 120mm Canyons full suspension bikes and finally for finding right frame size. Rental fees have been credited when buying.👍

Regarding frame design I like the lower section of the Amflow more than the Pivot:

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Interesting how the motors are positioned differently. The difference in the frame is likely related to how the shock is positioned. The Pivot design is probably better since the yoke stresses the shock more.

As a Scottsdale AZ resident I’m personally immune to the demo limitation since Pivot is only about 30 minutes away. They offer a factory demo program. Don’t think they credit you back the fee though. Never used it.
 
Right. Well, it feels some kind of overkill for my use cases. That is why I appreciate the possibility to test the bike on a trail with some advice instead of parking lot round. Around 2010 Canyon was offering rental bikes on a hourly basis with setting up properly & GPS routing at a excellent shop in Heerlen, Netherlands. That was great to test 100mm vs 120mm Canyons full suspension bikes and finally for finding right frame size. Rental fees have been credited when buying.👍

Regarding frame design I like the lower section of the Amflow more than the Pivot:

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I agree Amflow looks nicer at the bottom, but Ampd has a battery placed much lower in the downtube, in front of the motor, making overall CG lower. And look how exposed is Amflow chainring 😬
 
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I agree Amflow looks nicer at the bottom, but Ampd has a lower part of the battery placed much lower in the downtube, in front of the motor, making overall CG lower. And look how exposed is Amflow chainring 😬
That chainring is also exposed on the Pivot, just not visible on all pics taken….

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That chainring is also exposed on the Pivot, just not visible on all pics taken….

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The one I rode at Sea Otter had a chainring protector. You can kinda see it in your picture. There is more detail from one that was on display is below and from pictures on their website.
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I am not sure if all builds will have it. From the 3 builds I did see they had it. It is also listed in owners manual as a bash ring. 😀
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For any kiwis the pre orders are open for May delivery.

GX = $17,995
XO = $21,995

Mondraker looking much better value IMO
mondraker and pivot m2 bikes are extremely different and aimed at different things. A lot will depend on what you want out of the bike. Poppy and playful or fast plow machine
 
If Pivot had better customer service Id own one.
 
If Pivot had better customer service Id own one.
Interesting take, did you have a bad experience? Pivot is widely regarded as having great customer service. My LBS is an authorized dealer of several brands and their mechanic likes working with Pivot best, they pick up the phone when he calls. My own limited experience asking a few questions was the same, quick and useful replies from people that actually work there as opposed to overseas call centers.
 
mondraker and pivot m2 bikes are extremely different and aimed at different things. A lot will depend on what you want out of the bike. Poppy and playful or fast plow machine
I mentioned value, Factory 38 and Factory Float X vs Performance models on the Pivot for the same price in NZ.
 
Interesting take, did you have a bad experience? Pivot is widely regarded as having great customer service. My LBS is an authorized dealer of several brands and their mechanic likes working with Pivot best, they pick up the phone when he calls. My own limited experience asking a few questions was the same, quick and useful replies from people that actually work there as opposed to overseas call centers.
They never answer the phone or emails. If they actually do answer emails they are super rude and it takes weeks for a reply.
 
They never answer the phone or emails. If they actually do answer emails they are super rude and it takes weeks for a reply.

I've had the opposite experience, my only gripe is that I'm on my fourth Firebird frame in 3 years due to cracking or disbonding. However, they've always answered my questions and have been stand up as far as warranty support.
 
Fortunately my experience with Pivot Australia thus far has been excellent.
Yeah, most people generally are positive about Pivot's support but I respect @B-man's experience too, no support is perfect.

This bike is so much fun !
That's a great way of wording it. This bike is just really FUN to ride.

For whatever reason some bikes are greater than the sum of their parts and this seems to be one. I'm not a great judge of emtb's as this is my first one but to me it just feels like a great bike that happens to have a motor.
 
It's really difficult to explain, but this bike is fun and nimble, which very often does mean the bike would not be at it's ease when speed is increasing, but this one does (or at least easy enough). Playful and fast, deliver a big smile at every ride, can handle pretty difficult terrain. The only down side I could find for now, is the price, which is not cheap.
 
I've had the opposite experience, my only gripe is that I'm on my fourth Firebird frame in 3 years due to cracking or disbonding. However, they've always answered my questions and have been stand up as far as warranty support.
Damn buddy, you go through some frames, it's not often that I see numbers like that (plus your broken Scors)! Looking forward to seeing how your Norco holds up now, as you are a legit example of real world testing to failure!
 
One question for lucky owners: what is dropper post diameter on this bike?
 
I tried calling the North America line today. I let it ring for 2 minutes. No answer. No answering machine. That helped me make up my mind. Ya, they are at Sea Otter but leave someone to answer the phones.
 
NBD!

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Got my MD to write a LMN so I could use my HSA, equivalent to a $6K discount. :D
Sweet bike, I just ordered the exact same color and the pro version. I’m short 5/3 so I got the
XS. Finally got a bike that actually fits me. My YT decoy is a little big for me. I had a Cannondale killer V hard tail that fit perfectly but that was a long time ago. How you liking the bike, any issues?
 
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